Talk:True Lab/@comment-27363468-20151208003320/@comment-27324545-20151210202337

I wondered about all of this too. The only way that the Flowey situation would make sense is if Alphys injected Determination into the first flower while it was still in the garden. She did not remove it. I think that she went into the garden when Asgore wasn't there, so to surprise him.

Later Flowey gained consciousness, seen Asgore, left Asgore (because he couldn't help Flowey "feel"), and then Alphys came to check in the flower (after the other experiments failed) and saw that it was gone.

As for the queen situation, I believe Asgore told Alphys about the flower and the queen's departure, since Toriel left before Alphys became she became the royal scientist, or maybe even before Alphys was born.