Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20190716003715/@comment-33883848-20190814113331

"I don't think we should assume there is a player just yet. There's no reference to said player."

-Alphys believes that there's an entity out of their universe watching her.

-Flowey mention the "sickos"who watch instead of killing themselves and think that another entity like this is watching right now.

-Sans always face the forth wall at each pun.

-At some resets menu,Sans wink at the forth wall.

-Frisk constantly face the worth wall.

-River person's line "Beware of the man who speaks in hands"and "Beware of the man who came from anothed world"could be a reference to the playet,who's from another world and communicate with Undertale in hands.

-River person says "Its X day somewhere"and the said day depends on your computer date,hinting that our world canonicaly exist in Undertale's story

"In fact, I'd say if there is a player, Frisk is canonically the player. And Flowey was before Frisk. But of course, I don't think there's a real player"

I don't think that we play as Frisk,i will quote what i said earlier about it "Frisk often refuse to follow the options(for example if you talk to Toriel during her fight they won't find any conversation topics)if Frisk is in control of their own actions,why can they choose options while they won't follow them?Why can Frisk donnate anoying dog while they see it as a waste of their time?(which shows that they are a very nice,selfless patient kid lol)and why would they feel a "sence of relief"if you refuse to donnate him if they chose this option themself?"

And Frisk can take decisions completely on their own will aswell without our input,for example they choose themselves to not call a monster when they receive their number or stop to continually open Sans's book despite our commands.

How it all suposed to make sence if we are Frisk?Why can they disobey us if we are them?

"Flowey had his own HUD as well. He's aware of it too.. He said that "he already CHOSE that name" if you try to name the fallen human Flowey. So Flowey also entered in a name for the HUD. He's used it before us. This is also why he's able to see it under Flowey's World"

Nothing implies that Flowey chossing a name for himself was a "meta act"related to hud or something,even in real life people change their name so that doesnt prove anything.

"But we're the ones making Frisk kill. Why is Sans judging Frisk?"

Sans may be aware of the player as hinted by his forth wall breaking moments but that doenst mean that he know the player is controling Frisk.

"I don't see how the mystery room proves anything"

Idk the fact that Undertale is canonicaly a game since anoying dog as a cover if Undertale's game??In hacker ending,Sans even hints that the game belongs to the player now,alowing him to control the underground

"There is a way to completely avoid the question, however. It could be that these abilities come from the player in general-Meaning Flowey could hack the game before Frisk did-Explaining his LV of 9999. But then.. Why didn't he just make his HP infinite as Photoshop Flowey so he couldn't be beaten?"

The fact itself that he's be able to hack the game kinda proves that the story canonicaly happen in a video game.

"As for Hard Mode.. Remember my proof that either sparing or Hard Mode is non-canon?"

Nothing even proves that Hard mode isn't canon.