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Xenons wrote: Prinzessin Alice wrote: That was one long text to read...and i think i know what you mean...

BUT I could never forgive the one who killed Sans!

I liked Sans!

But noooooooo, there is Chara with that cute little sharp thing.

And then he/she/it killed everyone...

Call me picky here, but i won`t like a person who did all these things because she is dead and the Chara we know is not the Chara, the Undertale Chara-cters know! (Sorry, I had to do this.)

Even when she is not that evil...I havend heard a thing she ever said...Ok, probably the recordings...but nothing that shows her personality.

I could stop hate her as much as i do now...but i don`t know enoght about her to say if i could like her or not. But that's exactly what I was talking about. It's not Chara killing Sans and the others, but the player themselves. Chara has no control on you, since that's why you she wants your soul at the end of Genocide. She needs it in order to gain the control.

Now you could argue that she kills the rest of the monsters after you kill Flowey, and everyone at the end of Soulless Pacifist, but be honest with yourself. Do you honestly believe you deserve a good ending after slaughtering the entire Underground yourself AND guiding Chara into this ("With your guidance. I realized the purpose of my reincarnation.") ? Besides, 90% of Geno players would have killed the remaining monsters too, if they were given the possibility, so Chara basically ends everything faster. What people often forget is that Chara had no problem with feeding posion to their adoptive father, or using their adoptive brother as a vessel to destroy humanity (leading to his death.) Regardless of the player making them worse, it's made clear that they were a pretty bad person before they even come in. Considering they're portryed as basically abusing Asriel, I find it kind of disturbing how people try to justify Chara.

I also don't find Chara particularly helpless. Who is it that tells the player how many monsters were killed,  and encourages them to keep killing? It's not like they weren't in on the plan from the beggining. That, and really, it's ultimately them who decides to destroy the world (even if they just decided to kill the player and leave the world, there's really nothing the player could do about anyway.)

Of course, I don't find any of this to be a bad thing as character. It's good to have someone to root against, and the stuff about their bio (such as their motivation or why they came to th undergroudn in the first place) is pretty interesting in it's ambiguity.