Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-31536324-20180710031436

""Let's erase this pointless world, and move onto the next." - Seems like they're speaking of games to me. For them, it may be their reality, but they certainly know about the existence of other games, and accepted the gaming stereotype of living for the increase of stats."

In other words, what your "proof" essentially amounts to of this "the world of Undertale itself is a game/simulation" thing is an interpretation of ONE line. Also, there is nothing here that implies that Chara is talking about the world as a game. They are talking to the Player (the Anomaly) about the world as a world. A plane of existence, a part of reality, a place that exist and can be destroyed like any other world. The in-universe idea that the world as they know it is a game is NEVER brought up in any fashion period. The double meta meanings of various phrases and words have no tangibility or concrete standing to the world of the game in-universe because there is nothing to hint or suggest that they're even a possibility. Unless it's like the battle system, stats, save points, S/L/R, LV, the inventory, the HUD, and EXP, all of which are explicity stated and shown to be things that exist in-universe. Then there's no reason to think that the world of Undertale in-universe is a game itself. There is nothing to imply that Chara has the 4th Wall Awareness of Deadpool.

Out-of-Universe, in our universe, it is a game. But we're trying to explain these things in-universe, and if there's nothing to support this explanation in-universe, then there's nothing to support it period.

The only way the "it's a game" explanation can work is if it's explaining how the player has so much power. Undertale is it's own universe, but the game Undertale allows the player to influence the universe. That's the only explanation that can work both in and out of universe with all of the information we have now.

"I actually never said it does confirm it."

I know that, but for someone who keeps saying and trying to separate fanon from canon in his theories, what I've read and seen so far right niw has been nothing but you merging the two. I WANTED to call you an idiot, but I didn't because I know that you are not, for a fact, an idiot.

But seriously though, trolls are a waste of greymatter and carbon, and should be reeducated on common human decency and comedy.

"Then perhaps explain the obliviousness of the monsters to everything weird we do. Such as, unexpectedly striking them (since how else do you explain them not dodging our attacks at all?), or the fights being locked into a turn-based combat. The basic logic of what WE know is, that simultaneity never breaks down. It may get warped, but only under extreme circumstances, and can NEVER be broken or restricted. At least, not the way we see it happening in the game. So tell me, where's the explanation of that? Sans mentions turns, yes, but he's an exception. He probably already accepted the idea. But the same cannot be said about the rest of the monsterkind. Literally none of them question why they can't dodge you or attack while you're attacking them."

It's like how we accept gravity, or the fact that is if we touch ice we'll feel cold. It's a natural thing that happens that they've accepted to happen. They clearly had to have questioned it at some point, otherwise they wouldn't be as proficient at it as they are by the time of the events of the game.

Besides, you're comparing a scientist (two if you include Gaster) capable of understanding and screwing with quantum physics, who clearly went through in depth studies of his world, to literally everyone else.

"Perhaps we simply disagree on what counts as a "parallel universe" and what just sounds like a plain nonsense."

I use the bythe book definition and basic concept. What do you use?

"Exactly. For the sake of making the universe more similar to our own. Please, if you can explain how a button with a text can exist without any pixels or a font sub-program generating it all, I'm all ears."

1. Alternate Universe, a similar but different plane of existence that works both similarly and different to our own.

2. They're magical constructs; and I am, again, speaking in-universe wise here.

3. Or they're holograms naturally accessible to the most determined being, ones only the user can see and interact with.