Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-33504407-20171031195942/@comment-32182236-20171122001457

201X isn't a real year. You have no reason to assume 201X is 2015. Considering the same year is found in the calendars, as old ones, and "The date I came", 201X is the monsters' calendar system, not our own-Therefore, we cannot just assume it MUST mean it happens in 2015-That's fallacious. 201X is actually vastly in the past, at the latest around the early 1600's, and at the earliest possibly the first century AD. The children don't have any futuristic equipment because it's not the future, it's the past!

As for the flower argument, here's something to consider-All the flowers in the garden are equally mature, like Flowey.. Except they can't speak due to a lack of DT. What's to say the first flower didn't already go through many seasonal variations, and bloom multiple times? Remember, by the time we reach Asgore, his garden is humungous, and it all came from one flower from the Surface, the one that bloomed before all the rest. We have no reason to assume this is the first cycle, and every reason to assume it's not, due to the insane number of flowers that bloomed, due to the flower garden in the Ruins, that wasn't there when Chara first fell, with the same golden flowers. So that's a moot point. After all, the lifespan of a golden flower is, on average, 100 years. Why does it have to be one year again? (Yes, I know by my theory the flower would be dead. But actually, that further reinforces Alphys' entry on the flower "gaining the will to live"-Plants are alive too, after all-But not plants that are dead. And it'd make a better surprise to Asgore-Alphys brought back to life Asgore's first flower that died.)