Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34798955-20180310144518/@comment-33883848-20190630164516

Rafip wrote: @PersonThePerson

There is no proof that Chara did not plan to murder more than 6 humans. Yes, there is.

First of all, Asriel says that “When the humans attacked...they were the one that...that wanted to use our full power.” Which implies that they tried to murder the entire village. ''The villagers saw ASRIEL holding the human's body. They thought that he had killed the child. The humans attacked him with everything they had''. The fact is Charasiel was attacked by many villagers and had two chices: run away or fight back. ''They were the one that wanted to... ... to use our full power. I was the one that resisted'' - Asriel. Chara chose to kill them all, way more than six. It is kill or be killed situation, initiated by Chara.

''“Oh yeah? How about the fact that Chasriel had no reason to carry their dead body?” Ah, but they did have a reason to carry the dead body. A very good one, in fact. Remember what the monsters tell you in New Home? “The human’s final wish was to see the flowers of their village. We had no choice but to accept.”'' Should be: ''The sick human had only one request. To see the flowers from their village. But there was nothing we could do...'' Fun fact is monsters should'n know about that because they weren't in the village since they cant cross the barrier, but this is a plot hole. And secondly: ''The control over our body was actually split between us. They were the one that picked up their own empty body''. It was Chara who picked up their body and then, they got to the village. The reason behind this isn't because they want to see the flowers, since Chara can see them through Asriel's eyes. It also not because they want proper burial, since bodies are being burried in graveyards not in center of villages. The one and only thing Chara have managed to achieve by doing this is being instantly attacked by townsfolks, like Chara knew they are going to act in that way. Actually, Chara knew them and knew history of Great War. It all was by design.

This implies that Chara made that wish in order have an excuse for Asriel to get out from the Underground. No. Asriel already has reason to live the Underground - to collect six human souls and with them break the Barrier: ''Please... Wake up... I don't like this plan anymore. I... I... ... no, I said... I said I'd never doubt you. Six, right? We just have to get six... And we'll do it together, right?''

So, yes. Chara is evil.

And if they really wanted the villagers to attack, they would have NO reason to carry it specifically on the golden flowers,showing asriel holding their body would be enough,heck even monsters says that the villagers started to attack because they saw asriel HOLDING chara's body and not carrying it on the golden flwoers "ASRIEL reached the center of the village There, he found a bed of golden flowers. He carried the human onto it. Suddenly, screams rang out. The villagers saw ASRIEL HOLDING the human's body. They thought that he had killed the child."

Which means that they genuinely wanted to give themselves a proper burial on the golen flowers since it's confirmed that they really love those flwoers(they even made drawings that features them). Beliefs, as you said proves Nothing but of course that won't prevent you to make ton of assumptions about chara's motives (that they wanted to force an attack against asriel and wage a war)and cites it as "canon",which kinda show you inner hypocrisy