Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20180104155430/@comment-32182236-20180918142508

I don't think eZephyr5d was talking about you. The Chara Protection Squad is a real thing, and they were talking about that, not you.

Anyways, I figured I might the part of what I said that you didn't get to yet, so that maybe it's at least a little easier to respond to-I'll just take all the new info I was trying to give you, and take away bits that I just repeated later on.

Here's the first half of what you missed, but shortened a bit by removing redudancy.

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Yes, LV makes you more agressive over time:That's why the narration text when we hit the Mad Dummy shows our punch as more aggressive depending on our LV, and how we feel about it as well.

No, saying that our guidance was what lead them to realize their purpose is in fact the misunderstanding of Chara's quote.

"At first, I was so confused. Our plan had failed, hadn't it? Why was I brought back to life? ... You. With your guidance. I realized the purpose of my reincarnation. Power."

Chara's telling a story. First they ask a question, then they answered that question. You. You're the one who brought them back. Also, note the period there. It's not a comma, it's a period. Either way, they're not supposed to leave you at a cliffhanger like that. They asked the question they ask, then explained how they found out their answer. Why were they brought back? You!

It doesn't logically make sense for it to mean your guidance lead to them realizing their purpose either-Why did Chara say "you" in the first place? If "why" meant "for what purpose", then "you" isn't really a good answer. If they were telling the story of how they found out, they should have cut out "you", to make the story flow better. That way, the story goes:They were confused, but then with your guidance, they realized the purpose of their reincarnation. But no, they added in that "You" there, which can only make sense as an answer to their question from earlier. They came back to life because of YOU. With YOUR guidance. (At the very start)

Chara DOES think their pupose is power, and thus, they DO devise a plan to gain power. We just didn't teach them this.

"But if you say no they're confused(and betrayed)."

Chara, I wanted to kill the monsters, not the humans. Now nobody can wipe out humanity anymore. (hypothetical response)

"Eventually Chara just says fuck it, it's MY save file(since when were YOU the one in control?!) "CHARA(or whatever name you gave them)" and just kicks you by erasing it."

"Let us destroy this pointless world, and move onto the next"-Chara

That's their supposed reason. Because SURE, it IS pointless at this point anyway, all that's left are humans.. Let's just completely forget about Alphys, Grillby, Catty and Bratty, Nice Cream Guy, Gerson, etc, they're all worthless. (..Yeah, things aren't looking too well for Chara over here.)

"And then when you come back to the world YOU destroyed, procedees to kinkshame you about your killing in the void."

Chara, I wanted to move onto the next world with you! You made a deal-We destroy the world, we move onto the next one! Chara, just take me there with you already! Destroying just one world isn't good enough for me. *evil laugh* As for the comment on sadistically recreating the world and destroying it over and over:

Chara, I'm waiting for you to do as you said you would do the FIRST time I destroyed the world. How many times will it take before you take me to the next world with you?

"And still kinkshaming you, they'll undo your happy ending from now on because you don't get one you monster."

Oh look, they're killing all of my friends! Look, I reformed, I changed for once, I actually did the right thing, you even SAID to take another path, and now you just kill everyone. Do you want me to be a pacifist or not, Chara? Because if everyone dies anyway, what's the point anymore? Seriously, if I can't kill, why are YOU killing, you hypocrite? #DoubleStandards Clearly, this was a scam. There's no real comprosmise, everyone still dies. Why do you have to tear away pur ending, Chara, after we worked so hard?

"Just let them go. Let Frisk be happy."-Flowey

Chara, please.

Chara:NOPE! *kills everyone*

"YOU MADE YOUR CHOICE LONG AGO"-Chara

Well sorry Chara, if you're not going to take me to the next world, I'm not going to destroy this one anymore. We either go with our plan of destroying the multiverse or we don't. If you're not with me, then you are my enemy, Chara. Which is it? Are you going to help me destroy the worlds or not? (Yes, I'm acting like a Sith here, dealing in absolutes. We already established that the player is the villain now, of course I'll play that role when talking to Chara.)

"The Demon who comes when you call their name" is only a reference to the fact that you called their name, and you named the fallen human, rather than your own character, Frisk. Yes, it's Frisk, not Chara.

"It is you who made Chara a demon."

They were like that ever since they awoke SOULless. But hey, nobody said there can't be two of them, right? =]

"This was the RPG where no one had to die! But you decided to play it like normal!"

Hey, there's a war going on between the humans and the monsters, all who came never returned, so that means the monsters are the enemy, and I, as the Hero of the humans, must eradicate all of the monsters, to forever save humanity! I killed the ENEMY! The VILLAIN! You even said it yourself:Together, we eradicated the ENEMY!! I'm the HERO!

(Typical RPG mindset... Yes, that mindset is totally wrong. But one again, I'm playing the Genocide role.)

Megalo Strike Back doesn't exist in Undertale. Just become some fans use that song for Chara does not make that related to Chara. Chara's theme is Once Upon a Time. So your allegory to that song is baseless.

"You think you are above concequences."

I am, though. I have the power of SAVE, Chara! Did you forget? Here, I'll bring things back right now! Just press the- ...Wait, why isn't it working? Chara, what did you do?! (Frisk's probably getting a little worried right now..)

I'm not the only villain in the game..

Me and Chara:"Muahahahaha!!"

Also, pretty sure you qualify as a villain well, Frisk of another world. ...Unless you never did that run, in which case, your "friend" Asriel doesn't approve of you.

"At least we're better than those sickos that stand around and WATCH it happen... Those pathetic people that want to see it, but are too weak to do it themselves."-Flowey

Is he really your friend? =]

"We blame Chara."

Yep, the evilest character besides ourselves. Makes sense to use them as the scapegoat.

In your backstory, why would Chara specifically be the one being controlled and manipulated by humans?