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Richard2005 wrote: SydneyIzMe wrote: Invader Jib wrote: Honestly I just don't get people who hate flowey but love asriel

same person = same character
 * is holding back from transferring into super mega theorist mode* *fails*

A lot of people think that Asriel and Flowey are the same but it just isn't true, you see Flowey isn't Asriel himself, he's just an empty shell with the memories of Chara and him.

This is because of the fact that when Asriel died he brought back the Golden Flower seeds, and his dust was on the seed of the flower that Alphys chose to experiment on. And like one of the books in the library says, when a monster's dust is spread on something, their essence lives on in it.

When Alphys injected Determination into Flowey, Flowey was brought to life with Asriel's memories, because Asriel's essence was in that flower. Does that make sense?

The reason Flowey turns into Asriel with all the souls in him is pretty much up for interpretation, but I think I figured it out.

When a monster absorbs a human soul, they become a more powerful version of themselves, this is why Flowey becomes Omega Flowey.

But, BUT! When Flowey absorbs a MONSTER's soul, he becomes Asriel because of the fact that he has a MONSTER's essence in him, Soul + Essence = Monster. Make sense? Probably not, but it makes sense to me.

Basically, you could call Flowey an alter-ego. Flowey was the one that killed everyone, Asriel was never there, he's gone. Flowey just thinks that he and Asriel are the same person because he has Asriel's memories due to the essence, and that's what a lot of other people think too, because a lot of people don't really investigate and think about things.

I think I'm done. I completely agree. Flowey isn't Asriel, Flowey only has the mind of Asriel.

However, it not confirmed that he needed to absorb a monster soul to become Asriel, since shit ton of monster souls = human soul, so he became God of Hyperdeath. Thats true, it isn't confirmed, but its what makes the most sense.