Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28128661-20160404143233/@comment-27907368-20160416075923

I've thought a bit about this myself! I totally see where you're coming from - here are a few things I'm going to point out:


 * The other humans came before Flowey existed - Alphys did her experimenting after 6 SOULs were collected.


 * All humans have some amount of "DETERMINATION" within them - this is stated explicitly in the True Lab.


 * However, "DETERMINATION" is never actually cited as the flavor of the RED soul. Though the d-word is dropped a TON in game, we are never given closure on what it actually is. The Snowball Game, which tells us about the other traits, ends with this:


 * Bravery. Justice. Integrity. Kindness. Perseverance. Patience. Using these, you were able to win at "Ball Game."

 ''>I dunno, "DETERMINATION" really doesn't fit there... And it also alludes that the red heart is the game that the other traits function to win in. ''

So, when we say "determined", you have to realize that that is Flowey's understanding because he is utilizing Alphy's name for what he was injected with.

Flowey also is able to reload his save file up until he tries to attack us (I think). Recall that he says BULLETS and then this changes to "friendliness pellets"... this is the only instance in the game where this dialogue switch occurs.

The 6 human hearts (neutral ending) allow him to make save files and load them. We also cannot reset during this time. This implies that the human souls combined outweigh the redness of us. However. Neither Flowey nor Asriel ever resets. This caviat may be miniscule but it seems like a key as to what redness actually is.

Just musing. Let's discuss, if you'd like!