Talk:Asgore Dreemurr/@comment-70.50.103.67-20151028151535

I don't know where to put this, Asgore or Chara's page but something I found interesting if not important regarding how Chara either fooled others or how Chara once was, Asgore during...I think the neutral ending (either 1st or 2nd time) says something like this "You have the same feeling of hope in your eyes as the human that fell here long ago" to Frisk which could mean that Chara maybe instead of always being the "spawn of satan" people theorize could have instead been a bullied/abused/whathaveyou kid who instead of going on Frisk's path (I heard True Pacifist is considered the true route?)

Well...Maybe Chara ended up losing that hope that Asgore once saw in their eyes, falling into complete despair. If they were said to hate humanity, if they felt that they didn't fit in with the monsters either, then that despair could have made them just like we see Flowey: apathetic, more and more distancing themselves from emotion and morals. Despair can also breed paranoia, if they thought everyone, including eventually the monsters were out to get them.

Or, if they were bullied/abused, then they think like Genocide Route Sans, where the "RESET" is more metaphorical for example: "I try to befriend someone. Something goes wrong, they betray me, or hate me, or I'm so paranoid they will do this I'll distance myself first" etc, and they're back to square one. Maybe that was Chara before they died, and by the time they poisoned themselves, they trusted no one, and believed in nothing. So the Chara that we get bits and pieces of the game, the one that genocide route shows, the one who wants to destroy everything and everyone, maybe their intent is twisted beyond recognition (including themselves) but maybe the original intent was "If there's nothing, then no one can hurt me. If there's nothing anymore, I can't be hurt further."

OR Asgore's comment about seeing hope in their eyes showed the level of deception Chara had mastered in sociopathy to hide their true nature. But it's said eyes are "windows to the soul", and when you can't see yourself in a mirror, it seems pretty hard to control what your eyes "show" or "tell". I've probably overanalyzed it but considering Frisk also finds that "bandage that has been used many times", it could've been by Chara...