Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-27136653-20170824060242

2) HUD is activated at close distances.

And duh, of course it's not Toby's room, but it's about him. So it can't be canon with the story.

And I am 100% convinced that certain things are set, simply because they're implied, with no extra information anywhere in the game. Such as 201X = 2015, or Flowey speaking to the player when refering to Chara, since we're supposed to give Chara our name.

3.3) Because gold is a physical currency, and HP too is physical. If we're supposed to explain the save ability consistently, then it makes more sense to say that it's a time-travel quirk, rather than a real "save". And no, I don't think that LV is exclusive to us.

3.5) I favor option number one. Humans wouldn't just give that ability back to them, and we don't know if they had the HUD or the ability to SAVE. The latter is very unlikely. And I don't know why did it never happen before. Maybe, certain conditions must apply for the soul to even be visible. Like, eating monster food, or something else. I just don't know. It is unexplained, and there are so many possible explanations I say it's pointless trying to come up with an answer. We're led to believe that Frisk doesn't know what a soul is when they enter the underground, and since the game never proves nor disproves that, then maybe humans don't know about the soul concept at all (another thing we must assume, like I said in point 2), and maybe the war started because they found out that such thing even exists (and then forgot about it over the centuries again, or the information got lost somehow).

And Chara gets affected by our LV, so either their name on the save file implies that, or it's just a "glitch" and the reason why Chara gets so distanced during a genocide run is because of something else. In which case, I'd LOVE to know what it is °3°

3.6 + 4.11) This is exactly why I said that certain things are dismissable. Undertale is a game, and it was meant to be a game. Not an expandable universe. So if we want to theorize, we must first dismiss some things it offers us. Sans's battle is weird in this regard. The way I deal with it is that I just say Frisk was unable to attack, since Sans was preventing them from attacking. That is until he fell asleep.

A lthough Undertale isn't self-aware, it is aware of us. Or rather, the characters are. And that is enough to raise the question how much can actually be interpreted as canon.

 And about hardmode, we're just changing names, not personalities. Hardmode itself is most likely non-canon.

3.7) Heck if I know. Chara got the stats, since they saw them. And maybe sometimes when the monsters reply to Frisk, it means that Frisk asked out loud. Or maybe they always ask Chara out loud, but only some monsters reply back.

4.1) We have no proof of ketchup ever being duplicated. But we do see identical stations, that are somehow disobeying the laws of thermodynamics. And teleportation seems too... difficult for Sans, considering his laziness.

4.2) Because he changed his mind? And no, it can also mean that the RESET ability requires this, no matter the amount of determination in the system.

4.10) Who said the calendar was invented at 1 AD? It could have been invented thousands of years before 1 AD, and then just get shifted due to some event. Kinda like with the Hebrew/Christian calendar. And the "X" is an obfuscation.

4.13) The strength of the soul is measured in "soul power", not in physical strength. And this "soul power" is most likely based on determination. Which makes sense, considering humans have lots of it, while monsters don't.

And no, Toriel left because of what Asgore declared. Not because he was a coward for not wanting to use the first soul to cross the barrier.

5) Chara gave both as an example, since both statements are in quotes. However, we know that Frisk denied both of them, since it's implied. If anything, Chara said: "What? You didn't say that?" The word "that" implies Chara pointing to the second statement, since it's lexically closer. Not the first one. It would make sense if the first one was a heckle, not the second one. So again, instead of so many complications, it is safe to assume Chara refered to both statements, meaning that Frisk also denied both of them.

<p style="font-weight:normal;">And there's a clear distinction between Frisk, Chara and us. The in-game universe contains only Frisk and Chara, but again, this creates some inconsistencies. So, speaking generally, we tried to laugh, Chara assumed it was sarcasm (also assuming it was Frisk), but then Frisk said that that's not what they said, and so subsequent tries yielded "but it's not funny".

<p style="font-weight:normal;">I'm not sure how to interpret this in-game so that it would make sense, so it seems like this is another one of those moments where the player and Frisk are separate entities. And since this occurs during normal gameplay, it led me to believe that the player is definitely not Frisk canonically. And it pretty much got confirmed by Flowey's final speech.

<p style="font-weight:normal;">6) Frisk wasn't in control during Omega Flowey's battle, so neither were they during Asriel's fight.