Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-32182236-20171027201623

A bunch of non-canon evidence is pointing to the fanon that the dog represents Toby. It's not an established fact-All of the evidence supporting it has been discredited-Therefore, we cannot assume this is the case. I changed fanon. I changed an assumption. If there's no proof within the canon game that the dog is Toby, then the dog being Toby is not a fact. The ONLY evidence within the game that even HINTS at that is the computer, saying the dog made an entire game-But saying that proves it's Toby is adding in assumptions and jumping conclusions. We can't "jump the gun" like that. We can't take vague similarities and turn them into a concrete connection. (The Annoying Dog absorbing the trophy we can disregard, because the video has ben discredited due to the credits being a lie. Besides, the Annoying Dog steals THREE items. It wouldn't be too farfetched for him to steal a Nose-Nuzzle Trophy. Go back to the game, and take another look at the evidence, and show me the evidence that he is Toby if you think there is.) Without concrete evidence that he is Toby, we CANNOT consider it a fact that he is-And in order for the universe to be self-consistent, with everything that's canon to stay canon, we MUST say that the game the dog made accidentally with the computer is not the universe they live within. It may very well just be an AU Undertale-That makes sense. But he didn't make the literal universe out of code, and we have no evidence Undertale's canonically code.

After it's applied to Earthbound, it's a full game-And it is THAT which Toby made a big fraction of. There's a reason why I said Toby didn't make the entire "Halloween Hack game", even though he probably made the entire hack itself. We have to credit both Toby and the designers of Earthbound. But, Toby made the story, the maps, and the sprites which were used, therefore, he is the main designer, and the sentence makes just as much sense here as it would with Undertale.