Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20200214154305/@comment-32182236-20200218190056

Given the evidence supporting Deltarune being a different world than Undertale, and how it doesn't actually fit within the Undertale timeline, I do see it as quite possible that Deltarune has nothing to do with Undertale.

I did say no major finds for over 4 years. Deltarune was released less than 2 years ago.

So it's pretty clear I was leaving Deltarune out of the picture. If I was trying to argue Deltarune counted, I wouldn't have said no major progress has been made for 4 years when there has been major progress (with Deltarune) in the last 4 years.

Where'd you even get the idea that I was referring to Deltarune? I said major find, not major gift.

Just because all the evidence was there doesn't mean we've found it all, or everything the evidence implies.

For an example, let's take a look at the history of the discussion about the Hertzsprung–Russell diagram.

In 1910, the diagram was created, but nobody knew what it meant. Nobody knew what it told us, nobody could find any explanation for it-Why the stars fit those particular groups.

It wasn't until 1943 that we realized "wait, the temperatures of the stars match the stars' spectra" (and thus created the MK classification system), even though it was possible to observe stellar spectra as early as 1860, meaning both pieces of evidence required were around in 1910 (the diagram plus star spectra), yet it took 33 years to figure out something as simple as a correlation. (1860 is also around the time we learned of thermal radiation.)

We had the evidence the entire time. And it took 33 years to derive a fact from it.

When there's a huge pool of evidence, it takes a lot of time to go through it all and derive all we can from it. So while we have all the evidence, that doesn't mean there's nothing left to analyze.

So sure, we've gone 4 years without finding anything. But it probably means we're not looking in the right direction or doing things properly, not that there's literally nothing else to solve.

After all, compared to the 33 years it took to crack the HR diagram, 4 years is miniscule.