Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20181123023529/@comment-32182236-20181126214312

"It is like when Asriel First turned into Flowey. Because now, he can feel compassion again. Because he's worried that your actions might cause suffering for everyone."

And yet, when Asriel first turned into Flowey, while he acted compassionate, he could not feel love. He tried to, and it failed. It's not that your personality changes without a SOUL, it's that you lack the feelings of love and compassion. One can still act compassionate without a SOUL, else, Flowey pre-reset couldn't exist the way he was.

"Again, these 4th-wall breaking conversations with Flowey happen outside the actual game. He's talking to the player directly. And it would completely defeat the entire tragic building up to what we thought was Asriel's fate if he immediately showed up as his non-faded self right after we witnessed the Truth Pacifist Ending."

Remember when we both said one missed detail can ruin everything? This is an example as well, you know.

There's no buildup, Deltarune was confirmed to not be related to Undertale, evidence proves it is a parallel world and just that, there were no plans for anything beyond the TP ending. By the way, that was Flowey speaking to Chara. We just hear it because if Chara is the narrator, and always with us, then we must logically always be with them as well. Thus, we logically MUST be able to hear Flowey's speech to Chara, and thus, it is there. Unfortunately, Flowey failed to realize who had the power. (Since it'd be impossible to tell-Just as nobody could tell Chara was the one who picked up their own dead body.)

Ambasador, the game is very clear, in multiple places, that the HUMANS cast the magic spell know as the Barrier. Something that should be impossible because Humans aren't able to use magic.

Yes, humans made the Barrier. No, it has not been stated that humans can't use magic, only that they can't represent themselves through it, and thus have no bullet patterns. There is no reason to assume they could not have made the Barrier. Though perhaps there are special kinds of humans.. "Boss Humans", that function as able to use magic more effectovely, essentially the human counterpart to Boss Monsters.

"Just like Steven Universe's Cookie Cat Song in the pilot, Alyph's repeated obsessions about Mew Mew Kissie Cutie, specifically, are something Tobyfox wrote into the script, and doubled down on. Alphys could have geeked out about many things.. but no, it's This Specific Show where a half-cat girl has magic powers. And something that would give us our only explaintion about how humans might be able to use magic."

You know, besides that legendary artifact in Waterfall, or the wand that appears in the intro itself..

"Whatever its origin, the monsters are clearly using the 20XX calendar, and that's consistent throughout the game."

True. My footnote was basically a reminder that it doesn't correspond to OUR calendar. Therefore, "201X" could technically be in the midevial era.

"Asriel and Chara offical died on the same night, long after Chara's arrival at The End of 201X in the "old calendar". Chara and Asriel did not die in 201X. But someone else did. And they were important enough to get a statue, but no so important as to having many object to that statue being replaced."

Who says there was a statue at all before the Mettaton one? And who said it had anything to do with Asriel's death? Mettaton's not dead, and he already has a statue. So there's no reason to assume that a statue of Asriel is impossible on the merit that he was still alive, as such a restriction has been proven impossible due to Mettaton's statue.

The only person in the royal circles we know who died during this time is Gaster.

We just know he died, not when. We know it's before Alphys became the Royal Scientist, but we don't know when that is, nor do we know the time gap between them, other than it being "so long".

And as I just pointed out, the present time is in 202X. But the fountain makes a point in telling both that the fountain was originally created in 201X, and that Mettaton was added "last week". We're a few months into 202X at the very least. This memorial was altered to be about Mettaton instead.

Who said it was a memorial? And why can't the present time be later than 202X? Far, far later...?