Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20190425222457/@comment-32182236-20190502221556

Sans specifies that he considers The Surface and His Home to be two seperate things. Sans is not from the 'world' above. He's from a different world.

Now, now... I was talking about Gaster, not Sans. Sans was born in the Underground. Possibly the son of Gaster.

Gaster was indeed responsible for the massive technological advancements that the underground made. But just because he did this doesn't mean he had to have been from another world. It just means he's a supergenius.

I ask again, why can't the Man from the Other World simply be Chara? What makes you think the two men are the same person?

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Now, to respond to each and every point.

"Sans is more powerful than The King of All Monsters"

Asgore made it very clear that he doesn't want to fight us. And what happens when a monster doesn't want to fight?

"Sans can remember resets"

I'm still convinced he's reading us. Here, have something from the lost post that never got a Ferret response.

"hmm. that expression... that's the expression of someone who's died seven times in a row. nope, wait, that's definitely nine, sorry. or was it ten?"-Sans, after you've died nine times.

"hmm. that expression... that's the expression of someone who's died eleven times in a row. well, give or take. there's nuance to this stuff. don't think i'll be able to count very well from here. count for me, ok? we'll start from 12."-Sans, after you've died eleven times.

Sans DOES lose count at 12. And messes up at 9.

So, when Frisk dies to Sans the first time, it would be utter shock. Take a look at the Let's Players reactions to Sans. That's pretty easy to read. They're clearly frustrated at what Sans just did to them. (Here, have a let's play reaction to Sans:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdP6ep0rkys) The second time someone dies to Sans, the surprise factor starts to fade, and here is where they'll start thinking about how to survive that opening attack. Suffice to say, they're pretty unsatisfied. They start to get what Sans is going for the third time around, and their planning phase starts.

Each death, they clearly think about what happened before, and plan around it. Similarly, Sans changes his tactics based on what happened before. For instance, once Frisk has shown signs of surviving the opening attack, he'll cut short his speech. So if he notices a reaction of shock again, not at the fact that he attacked, but that it was "sooner than expected", he'll know he used that trick before, and that's an extra death. So it's all about Frisk's reactions to Sans' responses to Frisk's previous moves, in response to Sans' tactics before.

"Sans bleeds when no other monsters do."

It could still be determination..

...Okay, it's not. By looking at the amount of red liquid that exists, it would certainly be more than what exists within a human SOUL, and would most certainly melt Sans. Ironically, it can only be determination if he's already a human anyways.

So that's another possibility eliminated.

"Sans thinks a government stance that not all humans are good or evil should be a high priority"

That's the rational, smart choice. And for someone who's against killing innocents, this would definitely be a big priority.

"Sans has pre-knowledge of Frisk's journey"

After all, he helped analyze the timelines with Gaster.

"Sans eats many things while Papyrus only drinks milk"

...I'm starting to wonder if perhaps Sans is actually a revenant:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uBGfEOoDkM

"Sans has a personal reason he doesn't want to be King"

Perhaps he just doesn't want to kill the person on the throne?

"Gaster was a human and he and Sans traveled together from the same Other World"...

That's something we're still debating the validity of here.

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Counterpoints to the Gaster/Sans theory:

1-Gaster could have used his own SOUL, plus the other six, to break the Barrier. He wouldn't have needed to do his experiment at all!

2-Why did Sans kill Gaster in 201X, rather than just revealing Gaster's evil plans, and stopping his dark experiment?

3-What about Alpha Frisk?

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I should probably get started on Chapter 8. That way, I can actually elaborate on why Alpha Frisk is such a problem some more, after reading your revised version of Chapter 8.