Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-27136653-20171217125124

Rafip wrote: ''You asked what proves that they had the same powers that Frisk had. Here you go:'' I knew about Toriel's deja vu for a long time. It never was convincing. When you die and go back, the soul shatters in order to allow for that If Frisk's Soul takes sufficient amount of beating, it shatters. What's happenning to their body I don't know, it's not shown. In order to get them back, the Load or Reset must be done. Why have you rearranged it? ''so then the question is, WHY does Frisk's soul shatter? Well... I do have a complicated explanation for it'' I have simplier - it recieves magical fireball stright in the face. That's why. No further explanations required. However, if they did have the same powers as Frisk, then why didn't Frisk give up? I am the Player. I'm the one who decides when or if Frisk give up. Undyne purposedly made the battle easier for us It still doesn't explain if those kids had ability to Save. It's not convincing? It's straight up proving so.

As for what happens to the body when the soul dies, it probably stays the same. You know, bodies aren't magical, they will probably remain on the spot the same way dust does. And I didn't rearrange nothing. I just phrased it incorrectly. In order for the consciousness of a person to go back, the soul must shatter.

As for why the soul shatters, a better question is, why it doesn't? Why is it said that human souls can persist if they apparently just shatter like this? Something is causing this to happen, and it ain't the attacks the soul is receiving. It cannot shatter, it must persist. That's what it's supposed to do.

And Frisk... is their own being within the Undertale universe. They're not a mindless zombie that someone controls, they're a human within their own universe. You cannot use the player argument here. Not if we're discussing the game from this point of view.

''"It still doesn't explain if those kids had ability to Save." ''

Oh my god, are you dense? That part had nothing to do with the save ability. I was just showing you that Undyne wasn't weak.