Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4504826-20160516034744/@comment-4504826-20160516054359

GetYourFix wrote: 1. SOULs do not have the ability to SLR, physical vessels do. Flowey is a prime example.

2. Human SOULs without a body are actually incredibly weak. Asriel is able to overwhelm Chara's determined SOUL and get them both killed. This is also why our main "attack" in the Asriel fight is SAVEing everyone and not fighting them - we are without our physical form. The human SOULs that are within heart containers don't do anything. They can only rebel and aid the protagonist after being returned to Photoshop's physical vessel.

The human SOULs also shatter after the Photoshop battle. This means that the DT machine was able to extract enough DT from them to make them not persist after physical death. #humanSOULsareoverrated

3. Flowey utilizes save/load during his Photoshop Fight, though the protagonist is still alive. He has just as many human SOULs and a physical vessel in TP - he should still be able to save/load. However, once he becomes a monster again, he is unable to use these functions.

1. If I recall correctly, Frisk can SLR after death, meaning if a monster killed them, they would be reduced to a SOUL, meaning that for a reload after a Game Over to work, Frisk has to be reduced to a SOUL.

2. How are we without our physical form in the Asriel fight, exactly? The human SOULs can't do anything because Flowey had more determination than them, followed by Frisk.

3. Flowey will also reload the file and ressurect you if he kills you in the fight. Remember, as Asriel, he still technically has no soul, meaning he is still a vessel, but he is just taking the form of a Boss Monster.