Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20170602170443/@comment-32182236-20170603010505

That's a non sequitur. The monsters have a depiction of a monster with a human soul. Your argument is that since that depiction exists, there must have been an actual monster with a human soul that is being depicted. The conclusion does not follow from the premise: the existence of an illustration does not prove the existence of the subject of the illustration.

Asriel Dreemur does. Asriel Dreemurr proves the statement is actually accurate. How could they have made it up if it turns out the thing is actually real later on? How were they this lucky, and why was this accepted in serious history, instead of disregarded as a myth?

Except that such a purely additive approach is only one of several possibilities: we also know that in some cases the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Even then, if the result is speculated to be stronger than a human, it would nevertheless be stronger than a human, and therefore a potential cause for fear.

No, because that would mean a duo would easily be able to kill this monster, and the monster would just BARELY be able to overtake ONE human.

You haven't filled the hole. In fact, you've now pointed it out. If the monsters acknowledge that such a creature would be horrible, then they have no reason to whitewash the history and scrub out the actual catalyst. Especially since the war was lost and they were no longer in the process of waging it. And it was a war they didn't want to wage anyway, because monsters are a generally peaceful race. The explanation doesn't hold up.

Who says the monsters are a peaceful race? THE MONSTERS. Why should we just blindly trust all the good things they say about themselves?

The war may have been over, but what if another hu-.. wait, monsters didn't KNOW humans could fall down in the first place, that's how we know they were written before Chara fell.. You actually make a good point!

You assume that there has to be a specific event that serves as a catalyst. There is no reason for this assumption: the fear could have been latent and then one day erupted into full-blown conflict. In real life such conflicts do not need some radical shift to light the spark.

Which war didn't start due to a major event?

Which they have no reason to hide. They want to be seen as the good guys when they actually WEREN'T. If this event wasn't hidden, the population would know monsters were on the evil side during the war, which.. wouldn't be very good for the monsters.. More monsters would probably hate being a monster and try to side AGAINST the monster kingdom.. Sort of like how Chara hated humanity...