Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27524978-20160210030742/@comment-4383275-20160806001050

IronBoy88 wrote: I mean, jesus. Toby explicitly said he was embarassed to have made the hack./ So, someone give mne a good reason why he would RISK COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT LAWSUITS WITH NINTENDO and make something relevant to something he explicitly said he was embarassed by. See my previous posts concerning Street Fighter and League of Legends.

Tabbender wrote: The fact that Ness can continue in Earthbound is not canon.

I beg to differ: in Magicant, courage is given a physical manifestation in the form of the Flying Men, one of which joins Ness and the gang every time they are knocked out. This parallels the physical manifestation of determination in Undertale, which is assimilated by the DT Extraction Machine in the True Laboratory.

Tabbender wrote: Sans' and Papyrus' bones are STATED to be actual bones, so is the Mad Dummy's knife (he only have one). So are that same Mad Dummy's minions. Napstablook's tears are acid.

"Regardless, 'faster than a knife' and 'occasionally faster than lightning' is a very vague measurement and leaves a lot of room for overlap. That was the whole point of comparing grounded, definitive statistics." -Me in my previous post

Proving the physicality of SOUL attacks is great and all, but as I've said, we have very few definitive measurements to work with. I've compared the ones we have, and they show that Sans is faster than Ness. What's the point of continuing this back-and-forth between us?

Tabbender wrote: And i don't remember it being stated anywhere that Earthbound's light or lightnings are slower than in our world.

I have physically outrun the lasers that the Spinning Robos in the Peaceful Rest Valley shoot out. That, if anything, is proof enough.

Tabbender wrote: Come and tell me that doesn't mean "c'mon guys this rom hack suck, get over it".

Yeah, that's fair, I can see that...

Tabbender wrote: just admit that Toby don't like his rom hack

Makes sense to me...

Tabbender wrote: and don't want people to make a connexion between it and Undertale.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold the damn phone. Where did that come from?

In all seriousness, if anyone's playing with words here, it's you. I've already mentioned why Toby's supposed "debunking" is actually nonexistent, and effective immediately, I will no longer respond to points that have been thoroughly covered elsewhere.

Tabbender wrote: I don't see how monsters can have just poped in at most 20 years, like, out of nowhere. That's not how evolution works. Especially since Undertale implies that monsters were there since a long time.

EarthBound Beginnings (i.e. the original Mother) actually had an ostensible precursor to the monsters in Undertale called a Dust Ghost. It was made of dust, as the name implies, and unlike most other enemies in the game, it actually did not attack the player until it was sufficiently damaged. And the thing about dust, you see, is that it can attain various shapes and forms.