Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20181229180615/@comment-32182236-20181230152759

That question I'd have to ask the monsters themselves. The humans already banished them underground, what reason do they have to attack again? (There is the possibility I pointed out, if the monster population grew in size by 7 times, that it'd be enough for them shatter the batrier themselves if they somehow combined their SOUL power, but if the monsters were aware of this possibility [if it's even possible at all, that is], why didn't they try that once they gathered six SOULs?

The best explanation I have is that after the mecilless attack of the humans, the monsters became paranoid. After experiencing a traumatic event, one can become paranoid of the same thing happening again:This may have been what happened to the monsters, leading to irrational fear. It's clear the Barrier wasn't actually meant to be crossed by humans, but was rather designed to be as hard to cross as possible. As for why a monster SOUL+human SOUL ends up being enough, despite being barely above one human SOUL, that is a result of the fact that when combining the two together, you both have a massive amount of magic (from the monster), and massive amount of power (from the human), which forms unrivaled magical prowess.

While I'm not sure exactly how crossing the Barrier works, you're either moving across the Etheral Plane (or something like it), to just bypass the Barrier completely (by going throug stuff), or molding a part of the Barrier by interfering with its magic, creating a hole that soon fills itself. Breaking the Barrier would be unleashing something powerful enough to physically shatter it. (Which is what we see happen when the Barrier is destroyed by Asriel-We see it split into two)

Yes, Susie can use magic. She's a monster. My point is, since "downed" doesn't actually represent death, Susie never actually died. She's just "down", unconcious. Negative HP exists, and if it was really that easy to revive a monster, you'd be seeing it happen a lot more in those hospitals, and Gerson would be revived. So, she doesn't turn to dust because she doesn't actually die. Now, try killing off one of your party members, and still winning the fight. What happens to the party member that "died"?

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Why "another example"? Isn't one counterexample enough to debunk a statement? Also, pshychokinesis is magic by definition.

I'm not discarding lore, I'm discarding an assumption the mosnter who wrote the Snowdin Book made as propaganda, because of proof by contradiction:If the book WAS true, the monsters would have vanished when the underground was deviod of hope, since hope is one of the three elements of a monster SOUL according to that book (the other two being love and compassion.) So we've discredited the book as a reliable source. And a Waterfall plaque depicts a monster with a human SOUL. This cannot be Chasriel, because plaques connecting with it say no human will ever fall, so they must have been written before Chara fell:Therefore, there must have been a monster with a human SOUL before Chasriel. Tell me, how was that first absorption not an act of darkness? If the book is reliable, resolve the contradictions that stem from it. I'd not discounting info casually, I'm calling statements made by monsters (whether verbally ir written) that result in contradictions unreliable, and discounting them on that basis, as truth cannot contain contradictions.