Thread:TheHumanAmbassador/@comment-30937172-20181111194510/@comment-30937172-20181117152950

TheHumanAmbassador wrote: Well, the fact that you're from a world separate from Undertale kind of solves the canonicity problem I had with white being hope in YOUR world. That's kind of why the objections didn't carry over to our RP. In the current setting, white is magic. But if you're from an AU like you said you were.. The rules could have been somewhat different there. The white SOUL remains as proof that you're from another world as has been said. The fact that in the world of Undertale, this should be impossible without being a mage only further adds to the proof. However, for those native to Undertale, white is magic, which is why it's pretty much exclusive to monsters, as magic is pretty much their main thing, though as Frisk pointed out, it's theoretically possible for a mage strong enough in magic to somehow get this SOUL color.

But, I suppose if we want to see what your incarnation would be had you made yourself a vessel native to the current setting like Kris, we can use process of elimination.

Given how quickly you gave up against Valor.. TWICE, we can probably rule out perseverance:Especially since the defense actually had a chance of winning. (In fact, I actually had some plans to progress the trial before the Giygas arc showed up. Back when we were still just looking into how we might be as a boss. That throwaway line of Frisk's plans for the trial really was how things may have progressed had Giygas not showed up. Btw, that's why Valor had a somewhat villanious role. As a boss, you're kind of SUPPOSED to be opposed to the player. And I'm still going to say that Valor was somewhat corrupted by Betty. Though that's currently irrelavant seeing as Valor was erased.)

From the new info you just said, I believe we can rule out Integrity. Isn't that all ABOUT self-esteem, and following your own path to the end? ..Yeah. That's not right.

So, that leaves four possibilities (By ruling out the two I did, that implicitly eliminates determination as well. Though I believe it was even explicitly stated at some point that you didn't have an abundancd of DT anyways.):

Justice, which is esentially surefire accuracy to end mayhem, essentially order

Kindness, which is concern and care.. Most prevalent in compassion, but such compassion is not required. (I mean, you still have that trait in Genocide, since you have all six, so..) Just passion in general...

Patience.. Okay, waiting for the perfect oppertunity? ..There's no evidence to suggest you have that trait, though we can't be sure..

And Bravery. ...We can PROBABLY rule this one out too. Though I haven't yet found proof that this isn't your most fitting trait, the odds are quite unlikely. Ironically, when I took a quiz to see which soul trait I would have, it says "Integrity". I would say it's either Kindness or Integrity, most likely Kindness since I do care about other people. Justice to me seems extremely hypocritical, and I am not sure about Bravery, since like you said, I had not shown that particular trait that much. This is also the real reason why I came up with the "Hope" trait for myself, since I don't think I match with all the main traits. And plus, like I said, the real reason why I made "Hope" be white is because I couldn't find a particular color for it that hasn't been done already. I would use gold, but that is already used in some fangames and plus, gold is just a mixture between orange and yellow, so having Hope be a mix between courage and justice wouldn't make any sense.

What I most confused is how black is hatred. Yes, it does make sense from a color standpoint, but not from a trait standpoint. Black is the opposite of white, which means Hate is the opposite of Magic? How does THAT make any sense? If black is the opposite of white, and if black is Hate, then shouldn't white be Love? It makes me even more confused as to how whether or not white REALLY HAS  a trait or just something that monsters have to differenate themselves from humans.