Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-28067574-20190904162421/@comment-32182236-20190910174945

It's not even a year. We don't see flowers in the winter.

Most flowers would blossom by the first summer. So it's a few months, at the latest, just by that reasoning.

So Toriel left at most a few months after the incident.

One could reason that Toriel left because of the second human, since she pointed out that Asgore could have used the first SOUL to cross and kill six there. Maybe this was her initial plan? And she left when she learned Asgore wasn't going to do just that after getting the first SOUL?

That's where the argument I brought in comes in. That implies the second human fell less than a few months after Chara.

Now, the door was one-way. How would they be returned? Why would Asgore listen?

I do plan on going over the possibilities involving them being lost by other humans, though you do raise another possibility with the other humans. And yes, Toriel could have simply lied. Turns out the dilemma really is a false dilemma after all.

So let's add the third possibility to the list now, shall we?

So far, I think this third possibility is the most likely. Though if anyone has reason to believe that Toriel wouldn't lie, I'd like to hear it.

But we can still analyze the first possibility as well. Maybe it's more probable than it looks.