Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-27136653-20180923140304

"You always reload just BEFORE you die."

It can also be that you're hearing this as a straggling essence, as it moves back through time.

"Second:So you hacked the game to get there? You need to be able to get there using normal gameplay for it to count. If we start making hacking canon, that makes the Dirty Hacker Ending canon as well, which means Sans somehow both knows about the game's designer, and that there are definitive endings, and that you can contact the designer.. And that hacking exists, and that the player exists.. And yet he blames Frisk, the character, for everything that happens, and never once talks about you, the player, which now HAS to be canon according to the Dirty Hacker Ending.. And that creates a contradiction. Therefore, we can't make hacking canon."

Then what should we do, change, omit? How is that any different from me changing and omitting text in order to avoid the HUD being canon, because that's clearly meant for us, the players?

"The plaques were written by monsters as well. They're just as "credible" as Alphys' entries."

And the intro could just be human lore. This isn't an argument. If we wanna know what Toby meant by this, we must leave the canon and look at the meta. The plaques have no reason to be wrong. In fact, their sole purpose is to be correct. Just like the intro. Alphys however has been wrong on several occassions, most notably with the amalgamates. Her purpose is therefore not correctness.

Also, that thing with Flowey was fake, apparently. Brb I gotta kill someone quick.