Talk:Chara/@comment-33170295-20200211015654/@comment-44812599-20200211225130

"driving Chara insane should be taken as an explanation, not a justification" unless the insanity caused them to be unable to determin the right thing to do. i dont think chara has such an insanity as they show no sign of being unaware that eraesing the world would kill people.

""Chara calls themselves a demon, so they have to be evil!"

This is a game about empathetic monsters. And before you reply saying that demons are evil by definition (you know who you are), so are monsters, and yet..."

i think your talking about me, so to clarify i belive you stated that chara calling themselves a demon was proof of them being one, this would then mean they are evil by definition, unless there is some other meaning to them being a demon (i now think they may, be refering to their abilitys (posesion with an asociation to "that feeling") or consider themself evil).

i dont think chara is a demon in any meaningfull sense, as they have no assosiation with hell and i dont subscribe to a morrality with good and evil beyond how such terms could be used to make the world a better place (utilatarianism).

""Chara's just a child!"

A genocidal Frisk is 8-10 years old and they killed everyone in the Underground. To give a real-world example, a child who commits murder is tried as an adult."

as ive stated before some people think children can never be considerd bad/evil for doing "bad" things. i don't know the reasoning behind this. however your evedence still doesnt do anything to address this (try making a philosophical/morality based argumant as i dont think what children are physically capable of doing is irelevent, or show me the context of this argument that demonstrates the person making it belives children can't do things we would consider an adult bad/evil for doing).

as for somthing i see here often

"morality is ambiguous"

in some morral systems prehaps, but not all (e.g. biblical literalism and utilatarianism). i also feel many people forget how much people can disagree when it comes to moral fundamentals (e.g. utilatarians and biblical litaralists). (biblical literalists being those who interberate all of the bible as literally true). and untill you can prove undertales own morral system (if it has one) is ambiguous i will continue to state this.