Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-39353593-20190611163415/@comment-32182236-20190611221350

It's pretty easy to prove that Frisk cannot be Chara.

We'll start with some of the smaller problems-Ones where the logical conclusions leads to ridiculous, nonsensical outcomes.. And then I'll finish it off with the hard rebuttal.

Chara has made their name known as Chara many times. In the stat screen, their name is Chara, and they introduce themselves as Chara at the end of the Genocide Route. They clearly still see themselves as Chara.

...So, why would they say that their name is Frisk at the end? Why does Asriel figure that Chara's been gone for a long time?

Frisk moves on their own in cutscenes.. If Frisk is Chara, that means "Chara" already has control over Frisk. Which means there's nothing stopping them from taking over and causing a Soulless Pacifist.. Even before a Genocide Route. So, what gives? Why did the SOUL exchange even happen at all? It's all meaningless at this point!

When Chara reawakened from death, presumably as Frisk, why has their outfit and appearance inexplicably changed, from their signature green and yellow outfit, to Frisk's? And why does it suddenly change back when Chara introduces themselves to us at the end of a Genocide Route? Chara makes it clear at the end of the Genocide Route that our power has awakened them from death, meaning that if Frisk is Chara, Frisk never fell... They just woke up.

Now, here's where the Narrator theory comes into play. In case you don't believe in the Narrator theory, I've already made a thread proving it:https://undertale.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:140457

So, if you don't believe in the "Chara is the Narrator" theory, read that thread before coming back here. Have a problem with the narrator theory? You can take it there.

Alright, are you back? Good, let's keep going.

So, now knowing that Chara is the narrator, yet another anomaly arises. Who actually fell underground? When you check the golden flowers after encountering Flowey, the narrator (Chara) says "Golden flowers. They must have broken your fall."

But Frisk didn't fall. Chara knows this, since they are supposedly Frisk. So why would they theorize that the golden flowers are responsible for breaking a fall that they know never happened? The golden flowers weren't there when Chara fell, so they can't be talking about that. Similarly, we, the player, didn't fall either-We just started the game.

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And now, for the absolute proof that Frisk, absolutely cannot be the same entity as Chara... The red SOUL!

...SOUL power cannot be recreated artificially. Meaning SOULs themselves cannot be made artificially as well-Else Alphys would have been working on it. We know that when Frisk gets "killed", their SOUL shatters, before they reload.

When Chara died with Asriel, their SOUL would have shattered as well. And indeed, we have confirmation that they don't really have a human SOUL of their own.

"My 'human soul'. My 'determination'. They were not mine, but YOURS."-Chara, Genocide Ending.

But... Frisk does have a human SOUL. We literally see it in every fight! So if Frisk and Chara were the same, then they both do and don't have a SOUL at the same time... A clear contradiction. Thus, we must conclude that our assumption, that Frisk and Chara are the same, is false.

So, Frisk is not Chara. I rest my case, since I believe it is closed.

...I thought things couldn't get weirder than Sans is Ness. I guess my thoughts were wrong.