Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20170602170443/@comment-27701762-20170603004531

TheHumanAmbassador wrote: Dragons are fake. Monsters with human souls are real. (In Undertale) Just look at Asriel Dreemur, as the "God of Hyperdeath". There's the difference. That's a non sequitur. The monsters have a depiction of a monster with a human soul. Your argument is that since that depiction exists, there must have been an actual monster with a human soul that is being depicted. The conclusion does not follow from the premise: the existence of an illustration does not prove the existence of the subject of the illustration.

A monster soul, is very weak, however. Where would they get the conclusion that a monster with a human soul would be any more powerful than two humans, let alone the power to destroy a whole village? From what is known about soul powers, a monster with a human soul would most likely be only slightly more powerful than a human, and there was no evidence to suggest otherwise.. Unless we saw it for ourselves. That's also why we DIDN'T know that a monster with a human soul would actually have control between them split-How could you figure that out without being a part of the hybrid yourself? Except that such a purely additive approach is only one of several possibilities: we also know that in some cases the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Even then, if the result is speculated to be stronger than a human, it would nevertheless be stronger than a human, and therefore a potential cause for fear.

Unless the monsters just don't want to admit to themselves that the war was all their fault. Shifting the blame on someone else is something that can happen a lot. If they keep telling themselves this was a figment of the humans' imagination, they'll be able to better bring themselves to fight the humans. It's harder to bring yourself to fight if you KNOW you're fighting innocents, and are technically on the "evil" side. You haven't filled the hole. In fact, you've now pointed it out. If the monsters acknowledge that such a creature would be horrible, then they have no reason to whitewash the history and scrub out the actual catalyst. Especially since the war was lost and they were no longer in the process of waging it. And it was a war they didn't want to wage anyway, because monsters are a generally peaceful race. The explanation doesn't hold up.

The story did play out exactly as described, though. Long ago, two races ruled over the Earth, then the humans attacked due to the power of a monster with a human soul.. The humans won, and sealed the monsters underground! The part left out was.. WHY were they fearful of this power specifically when they attacked, and not earlier? You assume that there has to be a specific event that serves as a catalyst. There is no reason for this assumption: the fear could have been latent and then one day erupted into full-blown conflict. In real life such conflicts do not need some radical shift to light the spark.

But the fact still stands, that since they somehow KNEW all that.. the monsters seem to be hiding something about their history.. Which they have no reason to hide.