Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-27136653-20170729160521

TheHumanAmbassador wrote: Clever, saying we couldn't have retroactively changed Chara's past. Our favorite pie becoming Chara's favorite? That's just as absurd as us retroactively changing Chara's name when we fall! ...Wait, we actually do that? ...Well, I guess that point's invalid. (The fact that Chara falling was in black-and white was also a hint it happened in the past, just like every other scene in black and white. AND it served to hide their true colors. Very clever, Toby. VERY clever.)

Flowey also feels as if he already knows you, because he thinks you ARE Chara. He doesn't think you remind him of Chara, he thinks you ARE Chara. And he's the only other boss monster like Toriel and Asriel. :3)

Asgore likely DOES know about SAVING and LOADING.. He also knows about the HUD, since he destroys your MERCY button. Someone probably taught him. Also, we have Flowey continuiously SAVING and LOADING. THAT could give everyone deja-vu enough times to figure it out. (Why does Frisk's SOUL shatter, anyway? Aren't SOULS supposed to live on after death?)

Also, Asgore didn't want to fight ANY of the humans, at least not any of them after the first of the six. Toriel exposes this!!

"If you really wanted to free our kind... You could have gone through the barrier after you got ONE SOUL... ...taken six SOULs from the humans, then come back and freed everyone peacefully. But instead, you made everyone live in despair. Because you would rather wait here, meekly hoping another human never arrives".-Toriel

Also, what trait would fit the red SOUL, anyway? It has to fit both Frisk AND Chara. And EVERY Frisk-Pacifist, Neutral, Genocide.. Ok, your reply is kinda complicated, so lemme answer everything I can. If I don't answer something, then perhaps you didn't explain your argument well enough.

1) Flowey thought that Frisk is Chara because he was desperate for his friend to come back. Maybe he noticed certain similarities between Frisk and Chara that made him think that Frisk is Chara. But the other monsters clearly do show signs of deja vu. They don't think that Frisk is someone else, they recognize Frisk.

2) Frisk's soul shatters out of determination, so that Frisk can come back through the power of loading. How does the soul know that? Well, maybe it's because Frisk touched the save points (though Frisk comes back even when they don't save, but let's not get all meta yet). Nonetheless, it's the most logical explanation we have. The other kids, as well as Chara, willingly gave up their soul. They went straight against their natural trait, so their souls didn't shatter. They didn't come back. It may seem counterintuitive that shattering is a good thing, but it just seems like that's the case here.

3) It's obvious that Asgore didn't want to fight any of them. But he just had to. After all, it was him or them. And he was the king. Only after the 7th one he truly started to hate himself, enough to lose the battle. Maybe it was a gradual process, maybe it was something about Frisk that moved him so much. Either way, uh... yeah, he didn't want to fight any of them, you're right. I didn't want to say that he never regretted his decisions until Frisk came. I just wanted to point out that Frisk was the first one he lost to.

4) Red soul's trait is being yourself. We know that. But it's so vague too. So if you want to speculate, then read this, it's a small hypothesis I've come up with a couple of months ago: https://tsskyx.tumblr.com/post/162006218298/red-souls-revisited

Maybe red souls are simply unique in that they aren't unique in any way, if you get what I mean.