Talk:Determination/@comment-24821641-20161022145432/@comment-24821641-20161022225343

Why do you think they're a 'puppet'? Do you have any proof for that at all? Or for the Player being an actual in-universe person, rather than the fourth wall breaks simply happening to apply to the Player as well as Frisk and Flowey?

Frisk does things without player input ("even when you ran away, you did it with a smile", "you put the (item) on the ground and gave it a little pat" instead of just throwing it away like the 'player told them to'), they talk on their own (telling Asriel their name, for example). They have a name, the point of that reveal was showing they're different from the player. Also, they have a past. "I have places to go."