Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20200107155350/@comment-26907577-20200115134722

Replying to this one (alt) because this is probably the correct thread to discuss more down-to-earth theories.

My argument is that Flowey has learned to control his DT level. At the end of True Pacifist, knowing he couldn't go through again remembering everything, he manually reduces his DT enough to forget. My argument further states that the rest of the déjà vu is essentially lingering metadata carried by Flowey (SAVING seems to be a natural system, not an artificial one, so we can't expect it to be perfectly clean- DNA definitely isn't). Hence, the True Reset.

Under your model, we need to make some changes. About the same number of changes as mine, but it still calls for recalculation.

First, you claim Asriel doesn't fade because he still has one human SOUL. You also claim Flowey remembers because he has one human SOUL.

So either Flowey has found a different way to forget things- or reloading the game after the credits actually strips him of Chara's SOUL, somehow. Which ties back into "he turns back to a flower" part.

I still don't get how that supposedly works. We've been reloading the game, throughout the game. And Flowey is always still Flowey, not "legitimately-SOULless-and-nonremembering Flowey"

Wait, idea...that raises more issues. I'll put it down anyway.

What if Asriel released Chara's SOUL in order to forget?

This aligns with the evidence above, but, again, raises more issues. Let's look at those.

This implies that Asriel, at some point, figured out he still had a SOUL. Which directly contradicts his repeated insistence that he doesn't throughout the game.

You're not really human,are you? No. You're empty inside. Just like me. - Genocide Route, Ruins End I've been empty for so long... It feels great to have a SOUL inside me again. Mmmm, I can feel them wriggling... - Neutral Route, pre-Photoshop I can't keep maintaining this form. In a little while... I'll turn back into a flower. I'll stop being "myself." - True Pacifist Route, at flowerbed

So now we need to imply that in between his talk at the flowerbed and his talk upon reloading, he suddenly, out of the blue, after years of resetting, killing, sparing, talking, reading, burning... realized he still had a SOUL. And then let it go. And, despite trusting Frisk, didn't tell them about it.

I dislike those odds.