Talk:Eight Humans/@comment-27280998-20160115050222/@comment-27623830-20160122143709

I'd have to say you're wrong about Chara not having exceptional amounts of Determination. Chara didn't allow themself to die, they killed themself on purpose as part of their plan to free the monsters/destroy all humans. That's gotta take a lot of Determination. Being a substance does not preclude it from being something else, either. Many words have multiple definitions. It's not LOVE, because that's just violence, and it's heavily implied that Frisk's true nature runs counter to that. It could be love, but there's even less to support that then there is Determination. It could be a special soul that uses all traits, but it could also mean that a Soul's total Determination is a combination of all their traits(but that's getting into headcanon territory, so forget it). It's not whatever trait the player shows the most, because the message you brought up as proof only shows up the second time you get a red flag in "Ball." You can only get it if you've already exhibited all the traits to defeat "Ball." The fact is, I don't have all the answers, but Determination makes sense to me, so until something in canon contradicts it, I'm perfectly comfortable having it up there.