Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20190820122909/@comment-32182236-20190826162853

Alright, I'm going to get caught up here.

Jacky was right about you misinterpreting my interpretation.

Please, don't act like AD and PF are the same thing. That's like getting AD and AM, the latter of which uses an estimate of the creation of the world (from a young-earth perspective) mixed up.

I said before that the monsters don't seem to celebrate Christmas at all, with their version of the holiday originating from deocrations on Gyftrot. If that's what inspired Christmas, then the monsters clearly don't think the biblical birth of Christ is that important. (Maybe they don't believe it even happened, or maybe they find it unimportant, because they're not humans.)

So why would they keep the epoch, the boundary for year 0, on a date that they find completely unimportant?

The monster's society was a monarchy. It'd make more sense for them to adopt Rome's style, and place the first year as the year of the founding of the Monster Kingdom.

Which would have fell during the war, and then been rebuilt afterwards.

I've also said several times that Gaster himself was responsible for the phones, and flat-out said that Toriel got the phone around halfway between Gaster's introduction as the Royal Scientist, and his fall, given where the phone falls technologically between what monsters had before Gaster (1700s) and the furthest Gaster was able to push technology (with completely futuristic technology later on.)

Gaster didn't magically have future tech. He developed it over time. But he was far faster than anyone before him.

It may look like science develops slowly, and gradually over time.. But every once in a while, a huge revolution begins. There was the original scientific revolution.. Then the industrial revolution.. Then the revolution of relativity.. And then quantum mechanics.. And then quantum field theory.

Each of them made by a genius of their own time. Resulting in a huge jump in progress, over a relatively short amount of time.

But what if a super-genius was able to constantly cause revolutions? This super-genius, of course, being Gaster.

This is exactly what I argue happened.

Now, for reasons you gave in your own theory, much of his tech didn't spread to the common monsters. But we have no reason to believe that Toriel and Asgore wouldn't be admitted access to it. Before Gaster, there were no phones at all-There weren't even proto-telephones for humanity until 1840.

So Toriel would definitely get a phone.

But not the newest model as it goes on.

We don't buy the newest model of a phone every time there's a new one. We only tend to buy a new phone when our current one gets old, and stops working.

Toriel's old, ancient phone still works to this day. So she didn't get a newer one. (Must be magical preservatives or something. Phones don't last even last 10 years.)

Yes, Elevator Voice is 300 years old. Elevator voice is Asriel.

Sure, Flowey wasn't alive for 300 years, but recall that Flowey contains Asriel's essence. It makes perfect sense for Asriel to know Flowey by name. In fact, Asriel is one of the only candidates that exist. Especially considering the match to Hyperdeath Asriel.

Recall that Asriel believes that Frisk is Chara. So they'd call Frisk by that name.

Also, Gerson was alive during the war, so the average monster lifespan is likely far greater than that of a human's.

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After Gaster's fall, he was forgotten. So nobody remembers him. So every interview, every talk with him, and in fact all knowledge of him would vanish.

Gaster would become a theoretical entity. The intelligent being who created the CORE. They'd figure out that he had to have been the Royal Scientist at some point, and erected the statue in his honor.

But remember what I said-All knolwedge and memories of Gaster are gone. All the have is his leftovers.

The CORE exists... But literally nobody knows how it works. Not even Asgore by my theory, because if Gaster did explain it to Asgore, well, Asgore forgot about that.

So the technology would never spread. It would only exist inside of the CORE, and it couldn't be mass-produced, because nobody knows how to make more.

I once again give you the analogy of giving computers to people in the 1600s. They'll be able to use it, but they won't be able to make more. So the town that is lucky enough to have received the computers will be far more advanced than those without.

But if something ever happened to those computers... They'd be yanked right back where they were. Because they can't make more. As a result, they also wouldn't be able to spread that technology.. Because they don't know how to.

The only way to get Gaster's technology from the CORE after he fell... Would be if you stole it.

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It is true that CHS decays over time. More and more of it just fades away. The contrast starts getting worse, and you'll often see those horizontal bars moving up and down, obstructing the view.

I actually think the VHS tape is distorted, and that's exactly why we can't see it. Only hear it.

Oh, and by the way.. Chara's audio is completely gone. So the audio is fading as well. And we don't see Asriel's icon show up, so it could very well be that Chara is narrating what Asriel said. Usually when a character speaks, even on the phone, their icon appears. But not here.

Though this is monster VHS tapes. Humans didn't invent them in the 1700s. So, in order to find out if we should expect an audio distortion, we should get into what causes the distortions in human VHS tapes.