Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28777918-20160618024323/@comment-32182236-20180317004955

Alright, time to debunk this one.

...The blood is indeed ketchup. You see, as you point out later on, Sans drinks juice, and it goes right through him. It doesn't vanish, it goes through him. The same can be said for all the ketchup he's had at Grillby's. He'd have more than enough to "bleed" ketchup.

As for Papyrus not having a stomach.. Neither do the other monsters, really. The point Undyne was trying to make was that Papyrus doesn't need to eat. Monsters don't "have" to eat, as they're made mostly of magic, with only dust as physical matter. Rather, food instead heals injuries they may have gotten. It's esentally her saying "Hey, you don't HAVE to eat anything there!" ..Either that or Undyne just doesn't understand the nature of skeletons. After all, she seems suprised that Papyrus doesn't sleep!

Once you cut Papyrus' head off, all the signals that would have him feel anything wouldn't be able to reach his brain. Hence, he feels nothing. (Plus, there's no scar on him anyway) Sans, however, still has a functioning head attached to his body.

Skin is required to feel cold. However, pain can come from muscles as well. Hence, there is no problem with Papyrus feeling pain, but not coldness.

"We call that the sun, my friend", was already sucessfully refuted by Mabian.

Sans flat-out says that reading expressions is how he can tell. We can both agree that Sans is related to Gaster, though how our theories diverge (I say he just worked with Sans and Alphys, and theorize that it's very likely that Sans and Papyrus are Gaster's sons.) Also, he doesn't get it perfect every time, he can't recall which expression is which as we go later on. Now, having analyzed the timeline, and watched a previous iteration of an anomaly (Flowey), he probably could have learned what to look for. The only thing he can count is how many times we died to him, and how many times he died to us. So, let's take a look at things from a player perspective for a bit, and try and do what Sans did.

First off. The child doesn't seem to even know about the fight. They seem confused about what this "bad time" is. It's clear that this is their first battle.

What if we killed Sans, and reloaded? We're probably grinning at how easy the fight is. Why would we fight Sans again in the first place?

The more likely situation is that we die to Sans. Judging by the reactions we've seen on video, it's clear it's in utter shock. Amd this makes sense:Sans has only shown to be a lazy jokester until now. This would reflect in Frisk's expression the first time around.

Now, let's keep this going, shall we? We'll start with 2.

No, humans did not create monsters. Otherwise, they would uave known from the start about the SOUL absorption ability, as they would know all about the artifical life they're creating. Also.. The war takes place in the Middle Ages according to the intro. Humans just didn't have the tech and scientific knolwedge nessedary to create such artifical life in the first place. We can't even do that NOW.

White represents magic. The other colors represent other things-The seven traits. Since monsters are mostly made of magic, they're represented in white during battles. The colors can also represent differeng types of magic-Take for example, Asgore's orange and blue magic attacks.

By the way, I have a much better explanation on why the kill count doesn't increase with Sans. It only represents YOUR kills. Chara did the finishing blow with Sans, so it doesn't count.

Toriel is the QUEEN of monsters. So this whole time when he was laughing and making bad puns, he was doing that with the queen of monsters.. Yeah, that'd probably be quite a shocker. Maybe even enough to justify his awkward speech.

When Sans was mentioning those good old times, he was talking about the Pacifist Run. Remember, he said they "might" have been friends. As in, there's a chance they were never friends-Which would be the case if we never did a Pacifist Run at all. Besides, we're the one making the choice, so he's talking to us, not Chara. As for why he says we once wanted to do the right thing, this ties into what he says later on, about us only doing this run to see what happens. He sees us as Flowey 2.0, which is actually not that far from the truth.

The choice is simple. We've worked this hard on our genocide Route.. Must be hard to give up on trying for that ending. We also get dunked on, but this wasn't a trick, but more "if we're really friends, you won't come back"-He wants us to RESET-If we do, then the spare is indeed genuine, and no more bad time. He's hinting at a way to make things right. Though, we do have to wonder why he doesn't use that attack at any other point in timel to make his fight impossible..

Now into Sans' weird shenanigans. No, he's not stopping time, but I get why you'd say he is. In order to truly understand what's going on, we need to talk about the nature of the Overworld and Battle World. When we enter a FIGHT, nothing moves at all for the duration of the FIGHT. The overworld is, "deactivated". What's to say Sans isn't just doing that? I mean, we already know he can tamper with the HUD and meta-stuff.

Sans' time and space prank is actually a "shortcut". Two of them, actually-One into the blank void, and another onto the treadmill. We don't know what this blank void is, perhaps it's the same one as Omega Flowey's world..? Which ALSO happen to use doors (but not always, sometimes it's walls!) to warp to places.

"The Truth" is his machine and his connection to Gaster. Until then, we really only see him as a lazy skeleton. This gives us his true nature-A scientist who worked with Gaster, who gave up on repairing a machine that was broken, who's doing his best not to forget his times with Gaster, even as everyone else has. By the way, this is also why they say they just showed up out of nowehere. Theor orogin is from Gaster, and since Gaster doesn't exist in the timeline anymore, their origin is now missing. They appeared out of nothing, according to the timeline. Just like the CORE's still here.