Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-30088034-20170108152544/@comment-30088034-20170111002725

Wildkitten1234 wrote: "but if Chara liked killing and all that, then why does she control you when you do genocide, but lets you do your own thing in pacifist? i thought she liked when people kill?" Huh? Sorry, can you reword that? Sorry '^^

SORRY, THAT WAS POORLY WORDED. WHY DOES CHARA CONTROL YOU (KINDA) IN GENOCIDE BUT NOT REALLY IN PACIFIST? I THOUGHT CHARA WOULD GET MAD AT YOU IF YOU DIDN'T KILL ANYBODY? AND BE HAPPY IF YOU KILLED PEOPLE?

"so if flowey/asriel thinks chara is a "good friend" then why does he keep being really mean and trying to kill "chara" (or, who he thinks is chara.) is it because he has no compassion, and only wants to keep him around so he can torture then with the timeline and suff?" He wants them to stay forever. He doesn't seem to have his compassion back until you save him, no, so it's probably the only way he can think of to keep them around.

"so if chara loved the dreemurrs so much, then why do they just laugh it off when they accidentaly posison asgore?" To 'laugh it off' means dealing with a problem by pretending to be amused, or at least it did other times I've heard it. That's a theme in Undertale - Toriel laughs if you kill her in Genocide or after she stops attacking, Snowdrake's father has "hahaha...that's not funny", Migospel has "laughter hides the pain", Sans acts happy even though he knows about the resets, the narrator (probably Chara) desribes Frisk laughing until they cry in Snowdrake's Mother's fight, but Frisk didn't, so it was apparently just something Chara wanted to do, and if you try to laugh again they say "But it's not funny." (Not "but you don't think it's funny"), and monsters in general are "always cracking jokes, trying to forget our modern crisis."

SO LAUGHING IT OFF IS A THEME OF UNDERTALE? WHY DIDN'T ASRIEL DO IT?

"wait, does chara has 20 love because of frisk or because they did it themselves? i really don't get how they got 20 love. is it from killing flowey?" Ohh okay - so, at least the way I see it, we play as Frisk, and when they move by themself it's Chara moving their body. So in Genocide, Chara does things like walk towards Monster Kid, but Frisk kills everyone except Sans, Asgore and Flowey. So yeah, they have most of the LOVE because of Frisk, they share it, because LOVE is emotional detachment, not power.

SO I'M ASSUMING CHARA HAD 0 LOVE WHEN SHE WAS IN THE GRAVE?

"because they are best friends right? and asriel still wants to be around chara. so once you reach out and get the flashback, asriel realizes that you are not chara and lets you go? if so, why was she being men to char but nice to frisk?" Yeah. Because he was desperate to keep Chara with him. Once he realised they're really Frisk, he had been saved and got the compassion of almost everyone in the Underground.

"who wrote those signs? anyone know?" ...No idea. Monster historians?

"does flowey solve any puzzles for frisk on the genocide route btw?"

One in Snowdin had its switch pressed down by vines, so he probably solves all of them. It could also have been monsters evactuating, though.

THAT'S NOT WHAT MABIAN SAID