Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27677820-20160131035943/@comment-27902065-20160530092530

oh I totally forgot to actually just leave a final statement other than "long post got delet"

so uh, I'll tackle this scientifically.

Flowey feels what we call "Negative Emotions". Negative Emotions consist of; Jealousy, Envy, Anger, Frustration, Hate. They all seem bad, right? But that isn't all. See, the reason we could even communicate with Flowey at times, for example, in the Neutral Ending, if you choose to spare him; we communicate to him through the other Negative emotions. Depression, Sadness, Despair, Doubt, Guilt, Shame. Through those, we slightly get to him; he wonders why we even spared him, and just runs away, whether it be in guilt, shame, doubt, despair, sadness, or depression. It surely wasn't in anger, hate, frustration, jealousy, or envy; he would've acted differently.

Now, let's look at the Genocide ending; Flowey attempts to communicate with Chara, and guess what he shows? That's right: Guilt, Shame, Doubt, along with Fear and Regret, two more Negative emotions. Flowey tries to make Chara reset, to no avail (at least, most the time; maybe some players reset after Flowey's whole spiel)

Now, let's look at Asriel.

He's hard to talk about, because he's rather complex, but I'll start with a bit of theorizing.

Presumably, after Flowey turns to Asriel, it's technically Flowey still controlling that form. All we hear from him is talk about resetting and erasing. He wants to forget it all, reset it all, and I think that he thinks it may fix it all, possibly returning him back to times he was with Chara and his Mom and Dad. But slowly, yet surely, he reasons. His Post-Flowey thoughts vanish, and he's really, truly himself, once again; and even though he could just stay in that form again, forever; he chose not to. He chose to release all the souls, and use his own final strength to break the barrier. He gave his life, the one thing that in his flower form, he had desired for, to free monsters from the underground.  If that doesn't show who Asriel truly is when not corrupted by a soul-less, genocidal flower, well, I really don't know what else to do. We can't save Asriel, really. He'll forever be a Flower. Maybe in Toby Fox's second game (Which he mentioned will be "Shrouded in darkness") we will, maybe not. If he does, then we can truly find out, with a 100% correct answer.

Not to gloat, but I'd say it's the most accurate theory I've made/seen that can prove whether or not Asriel is truly innocent.

now, inb4 this get's auto-delet