Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20180104155430/@comment-32182236-20180920211249

Rafip, are you underestimating the power of a monster with a human SOUL? I'm convinced that Chara's plan would in fact succeed if Asriel was willing to go along with it. He had the poeer to destroy all of those villagers, and absorb their SOULs as well, and essentially become a god.

"It's the end."-Narration, during the God of Hyperdeath fight

...Then they'd start taking it too far and killing ALL the humans-Humanity's quite lucky Asriel did the right thing.

Now, Chara was brought back in the same place they were buried-With their essence. So our determination landing right on that essence should be enough to bring them back. But, their vessel is unusable, having been dead for a VERY long time. Therefore, they come back as an incopreal being.

Yes, Chara is following us. That's where we get many of their memories from, take for example when we see them meeting Asriel for the first time after falling into the Dump. Our essences are connected-We both know what the other feels-This being how Chara can narrate how something feels to us, and allows us to see those memories...

They're actually stuck with us. Without a vessel, there's nothing to hold their determination. Thus, they need determination from us.

"My "determination". My "human SOUL." They were not mine, but YOURS."-Chara

It was more their hatred of humanity and less Asriel surviving-After all, Chara could have just not picked up their own body to put it down in the first place. It's clear they wanted the humans to attack.. BUT, they wanted to make a point to Asriel that the attack was clearly unjustified. That's why they didn't try faking an attack on the dead body, or some of the other things Chara defenders suggest they would have done if they wanted the humans to attack:That'd ruin the point Chara was trying to make to Asriel:That the humans attack what they do not understand:That they'll jump to bad conclusions, and kill the innocent. If all it takes is a monster holding a body to make everyone think the monster killed the child..

The attack was actually somewhat more justified than it looked, though. After all, the very fact that Asriel was on the surface in the first place makes it clear Asriel absorbed a human SOUL. Then the humans saw the body, and figured this was the one that Asriel absorbed the SOUL of.. By killing.

...They were so close! But what's more likely:The monster killed the human, or the human died naturally, and the monster decided to absorb the human SOUL, pick up their body, and just cross the barrier for some reason? I can definitely see why the humans reacted the way they did.

I see no reason why Chara would assume that Asriel did the right thing. Why would they change their mind? Why wouldn't they be convinced right away that Asriel betrayed them by getting them both killed just to spare the life of some humans?

The snow puff thing was Chara growing impatient at you constantly checking snow puffs. ...But it's worth it. 30 free gold for you if you do it.*

*That is, Undertale gold. Can't be used in any other game.