Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20181123023529/@comment-32182236-20181211124318

So if Sans is a human.. Why didn’t HE get the True Pacifist Ending?

Well, Sans is no longer innocent. He’s killed someone before, at least once. And only someone pure of heart would have the determination to face Asriel in the final battle and win.

Objection!

He could have loaded! As we all know, if Frisk kills someone, but reloads to before then, they still could get the True Pacifist Ending, because their impurities are blinked out of existence!

Speaking of that, why doesn't his existence result in a tie of DT, either making Frisk unable to S/L/R, or giving Sans the power to do that? If you argue the latter did indeed happen, why doesn't Sans force a reset as his "special attack", or just after Chara sliced him?

Why didn’t Sans kill Asgore or Toriel, and use their monster soul to cross the barrier?

Replace Sans with Gaster, and you've made a legitimate question that your theory doesn't explain. Why didn't he take Option D?

At the MTT resort Sans tells Frisk “You must really wanna go home. Hey, I know the feeling buddo.” but ask Frisk “maybe sometimes it’s better to take what’s given to you. Down here you’ve already got food, drink, friends… is what you have to do… really worth it?”

What if he knew the feeling because he wanted to "go back"? The thing he's given up on doing a long time ago? (Which me mentions in his Genocide fight) Because that's not talking about the surface. Probably talking about Gaster's old timeline, which is why Sans wants to fix the machine.

Sans had somewhere he once wanted to go back to.. He wasn’t born in the Underground. But when weighing the options of having a life of friendship with the monsters, and having to ruin all of that by killing their beloved King just to go home again.. Sans choose to spare Asgore and stay in the Underground. And Sans tries to convince Frisk that this is something he should consider, too.

You did a MatPat again.

Just like MatPat saying there's no Peach toy while literally displaying a Peach Toy in his Mario is Mental Theory.

In the very sentence you yourself quoted, he said getting to the surface doesn't appeal to him EITHER. Keyword:EITHER. The Surface is NOT his home. So he DOES in fact live underground. Just a different underground.

And Sans is also aware of the Meta situation. That if Frisk does continue on his quest, and try to kill Asgore… it won’t work, and both of them will just end up back here again. Almost as if Sans HAS tried to walk the very same path that Frisk himself too, realizes that the Neutral Ending to Undertale is no true ending, and is trying to warn Frisk about that. That killing Asgore is a bad idea.

Um, no. He just analyzed the timelines, knows there's an anomaly, knows you ARE the anomaly, and since the timelines jump left and right, no matter what he does, it'll all be reset.. Reset by US. That's why he acts lazy. He just can't give it his all anymore, because nothing matters. Did ypu really not get what he said? Most theorists I've seen get this quote's meaning down! Remember, it's "even if we do". If they do, it's reset. But if they don't, it's also reset.

“I know you didn’t answer me before, but… somewhere in there, I can feel it. There’s a glimmer of a good person inside of you. The memory of someone who once wanted to do the right thing. Someone who, in another time, might have even been.. A friend?”

Yeah, there's that. Sans does call out to maybe Frisk remembering him. But there's actually a chance they don't. Even if Genocide is your first run, he still says this. So, this isn't him knowing that it previously happening, but given the nature of players, the way the power works, and Sans' nature naturally making a lot of friends, he figured Frisk would naturally have been friends at one point, before switching off just to see what happens.

After all, if you spare him, get dunked on (if we're really friends, you won't come back), then decide not to spare him the next time, he mentions how since you came back, seems that you and Sans never WERE friends.

In fact.. Sans is able to dodge ALL of Frisk’s incoming attacks, something no other foe was ever able to do. Almost like he had pre-knowledge of them. Even when Sans is asleep, he’s still able to FEEL when Frisk is going to attack, and dodge THAT blow, just like all the others.

He knows the HUD. He can sense your attacks. The way I had described it before. With Chara's attack not being predicted because they're an invisible ghost, so reading them is pretty much impossible.

Once The Real Battle Begins in the Sans fight, Sans puts Frisk in a series of quick situations that flash in and out along with the screen blacking out. In one of these minigames, Frisk finds himself trapped between two crushing walls of bones, facing certain death.. And yet the screen suddenly blacks out, and Frisk reappears a moment later, taking no damage.

..No, that was Sans. You know how absolutely NO monster can make attacks that are literally impossible to dodge? When Flowey tries this, it always goes bad for him. Sans has to follow that rule too, you know. Besides, Sans' supposed strongest attack was his first one. Why not make THAT one undodgable?

To further point to Sans being the one causing the shift, take into account what happens AFTER the "teleport":Frisk finds themselves inside of ANOTHER attack, with no idea where they ended up, and the number of hits on Sans remains the same. If Frisk truly did teleport, why did the attack suddenly change to being the middle of another attack? If they jumped through time too, why not teleport to THEIR turn?

Why is Sans.. the killer clown slacker with an immature sense of whoopie cushion humor, the one most qualified to pass final judgement on our soul?

He's a scientist that worked with the one and only GASTER. Asgore can't even think to cross the Barrier with the first human SOUL he captures. I'm pretty sure Sans is smarter than Asgore. He's WAY more qualified. He's great at reading people as well. Of COURSE he's the most qualified to be the judge. While Undyne's the strongest, Sans' great scientific prowees bumps him above Undyne. Papyrus DOES actually try to judge us, and call out for us to change, but we killed the poor guy! Alphys is only the second-smartest:She lacks the meta-knolwedge that Sans has, only knowing you're a human, and is also too cowardly to be a judge at that moment. Get the Alphys ending, and you'll see that after what happend, she then said she should have killed you when she had the chance. It's not that she couldn't, she WOULDN'T. She did have Mettaton try to do it for her, but that failed. And Toriel makes no mention about the monster dust. She probably had no idea that Frisk was genocidal until they hit Toriel with that massive one-hit attack.

So.. Yeah, Sans makes the best judge.