Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20170602170443/@comment-32182236-20180119011617

Fact still stands that Asriel was going to, and that Asriel was technically invading their territory.

"If 7 magicians can combine their power to create a barrier, there's no particular reason they can't combine their power for offense. They could easily combine to create barrier around them that Asriel couldn't do anything about, and attack back at their leisure."

By the time seven mages have been gathered up, the monster would have already had about twenty SOULs, mostly the souls of children. At that point, it'd be too late to make a barrier.

"They made propaganda for when humans come, when their plan is to just kill the human as soon as possible? Why brainwash someone you want to kill? It doesn't make any sense at all..."

Because humans are naturally stronger than monsters, and their attack depends on how much they want to kill the monsters. If they can lure the human into a false sense of security, and get the human to side with them... It'll be mucb easier to kill the human by surprise. If they were just being straight-up with the human, the human would win, hands-down. After all, it takes nearly all the monsters combined to match the power of one human. So, since they can't do it by sheer power, they have to play tactically to have any chance of victory. ...Which is exactly what they're doing.

"All non boss monsters (except the mercanaries hired by Metatton) are not trying to harm you - there is this which I already alluded to:"Whereas monsters are mostly made of magic...They'll never get a bullet pattern birthday card" basically saying that those bullets are another way for monsters to interact and communicate, and is harmful to humans because of ignorance!"

Specifically, these patterns are a way to "represent themselves with magic". Humans cannot do this, but monsters can. Their pattern are sort of a "signature", to represent themselves. Of course, like with Papyrus and Sans, they can also be used to attack.. And they're what's mainly used in combat. Besides, it's not like they stop when they realize that you're low on health (Only Papyrus and Toriel do this-Toriel because she's actually good, and Papyrus because he wants to capture you and send the SOUL to Asgore, not kill you-That's Asgore's job.) And since they obviously KNOW their attacks harm the human, and AIM the attacks AT the human, it's clear they WANT to hit the human with them.

Actually, the descriptions come from the narrator, which happens to be Chara Dreemurr. (Yeah, I'm a NarraChara. "It's me, Chara".) Not Toby. Toby's a teasing creator who makes a bunch of trolling tweets. Woshua SAYS he's trying to clean you, but.. it's clear he means your SOUL, and considering he isn't using actual water, but more magical bullets that HARM humans (And it's easy to recognize a human in battle-They have a SOUL that isn't white!), it's clear he has a much darker connotation here.. (Also, do note he only says this if you've killed someone. "Your SOUL is unclean". In a Pacifist Run..? Yeah.. That's a problem.)

Helping ANYBODY with lava just isn't possible. Vulkin's just playing ignorant. Toby didn't make it up, the monsters did. And we know the narrator's not omniscient (Monster Candy-Has a distinct, non-licorice flavor.

..You ate the monster candy. Tastes like licorice.), which is how we know the narrator CAN'T be Toby. What's to say Vulkin didn't fool NarraChara?