Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-32182236-20170801170849

Starscream1998 wrote: - The future, why bother with a date it's not like they'll be much comparison to our own world and who knows maybe in the future they have weird sounding names for years including letters now.

- Originally I thought Toby was going for the whole 7 chakra colour thing but the colours are wrong sooo I guess it's as simple as 'the defining trait means a defining colour' or some special snowflake kind of logic for Human Souls.

- The game likes to break the 4th wall a lot but I guess you could also spin it in a non-meta light as more of an in-universe science thing.

- Either that or the kids just dropped them there or maybe they were thrown away post mortem and got picked up by random Monsters. -Because the date Undertale takes place determines if it's possible is older than like 20 years old. Undyne doean't know Toriel, so she couldn't be around before 201X, and her username StrongFish91 suggests she was born during XX91. The earliest date she could be born therefore is 2091. They say that Undertale happens in 211X, meaning Undyne too young now to have met a human earlier. And Undyne meeting a human earlier than Frisk is a big part of the debate, due to her both instantly recognizing you as a human (evidence she did), and not realizing what Alphys meant by humans being determined until Frisk showed up (Evidence that either she didn't or Frisk has special amounts of determination). But, if the date turns out to be 211X, their evidence is much more significant than Undyne knwoing you're human.

-I have an actual in-universe explanation, but it's quite complicated, so complicated in fact that Tsskyx thinks "Toby did it" is a better explanation. It's a matter of how well it explains the concept vs how simple it is.

-And which one of the ones is best for us to do is what this part of the debate is about.

-That's actually their explanation. I'm trying to show that this explanation doesn't really make sense.