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GiverOfThePeace wrote: Prueba22 wrote:

GiverOfThePeace wrote: Prueba22 wrote: GiverOfThePeace wrote: Prueba22 wrote: GiverOfThePeace wrote: KR being karma makes far more sense, especially since UT has shown it's acryonyms can stem from a single world. Randomly assuming "karmic retribution" is worse since the game clearly calls it karma. UT has shown its acronyms can stem from several words too, so that argument is 100% invalid.

The game calls karma to the damage you are suffering, the skill causing that damage may have a different name, like "bio" causing "poison" damage in Final fantasy.

The game never calls  the KR  karma.

It calls the damage it causes karma, its a huge difference. Funny how you never show an example for those several word acryonyms. The burden of proof falls on you to show that. The game also never calls KR karmatic retribution. You're attemtping to grasp at straws. The minute you start taking damage KR appears, so KR clearly correlates to the damage taken, occam's razor. LOVE "level of violence" several words in a single acronym.

EXP "execution points" several words in a single acronym, i didnt say examples because i considered them obvious for anyone who played the game.

The game never details what KR means. But its directly related with KARMA damage (adressed as such, it loads you with karma points) and that justify the K of the KR acronym, and we are left with the R.

Given the dictionary definition of retribution, i think it fits nicely.

The minute you start taking damage, you start suffering karma retribution, it correlates to the damage, as you well said, occams razor.

(even if you worded in such a thing its hard to know if you agree or disagree with me, the example you pointed helps my point nicely) Show once where the game states "You're suffering karma retribution" rather then just "Karma" or you cannot use occam's razor for that because that's a random headcanon assumption you made.

Clearly I disagree, literally none of my points helps your point your own examples amps my point for my KR = Karma. The acronyms you used mind you are far larger then KR, LOVE is a 4 letter acronym, EXP is a 3 letter acronym, so as we see:

LOVE= Level Of ViolencE uses 3 words and one of the words the acronym uses 2 letters for.

EXP = EXecution Points uses 2 words and one of the words the acronym uses 2 letters for.

Are you getting the pattern?

KR = KaRma

Your refute requires accepting a headcanon as canon to even get your point across, KR clearly means just Karma. Snip 

I don't think you understood my previous point on the entire pattern thing, yes generally far larger acronyms are going to have several words, but your own pattern literally showed that by the time you get to a 3 letter acronym it only uses 2 words, so what would a 2 letter acronym give? 1 word. Your own refute debunks yourself, moving on.

You stated this like it was a fact or something but it isnt.

You just pulled that out of your hat and expect me to believe it despite having literally no ground behind it.

A 3 letter acronym for 2 words does not condition in the slightest 2 letter acronys. (or 4 letter acronyms)

Thats nothing more than smoke and you know it.

If you send smoke my way, i will simply blow it off.

As you said, moving on.

The first point I said wasnt a false equivalence because i wasnt using it as equivalence (if A, then B) but as a example of what i was trying to illustrate. Something that isnt used as a equivalence or isnt presented as an equivalence cannot be false equivalence BY DEFINITION.

You just interpreted it as it suited you better to attack.

Things dont work that way pal.

Moving on.

Again, KR is the only 2 letter acronym in the entire game, you cannot compare it with literally any other acronym on even ground. You can theorize, just like im theorizing, but if 100% solid ground is all that counts for you, you have none here.

You are just pretending your interpretation (that can very well be correct) is completely canon without a doubt while my interpretation (that can very well be correct) isnt despite both of them having literally the same going for them. Nomenclatures, common sense and in-game suggestions, but not affirmations.

Stick to your own narrative for christ sake. set the rules of the game if you want, but then follow them.

Either plausible deductions and theories are valid for both, or for neither. Either the lack of solid canon confirmation disproves us both, or neither.

Moving on.

The in-game message and the game files says Karma....... for the DAMAGE it causes.

Im talking about the power/skill causing that damage.

So it doesnt clarify or states nothing for the KR im referring about.

Never EVER in the entire game is ever hinted that you need a 3 letter acronym to have 2 words and i double dare you to prove that. EXP does it, but that doesnt conditionate other acronyms at all.

Occams razor: KR= word starting with K, and word starting with R

Wich may very well be Karma Retribution.

Ot it may be an exception to the previous acronyms and be simply Karma, even if there isnt any example of one-word acronyms in the game. But certainly neither of those options are either set in stone or out of the real of possibilities.

You are calling Occams razor to the stuff thats more convenient to you, which isnt occams razor at all.

KR being a one word acronym would be vastly different to the other acronyms, and is not occams razor at all.

Yes, the damage inflicted is Karma damage, no one is debating that.

Headcanon you say?

You see, thats the difference between you and me. Neither of us are sure of what it means (because it isnt stated in game), and both of us have pretty solid interpretations drawn directly from the game, but i recognize my theory is a theory that, while possible, isnt guaranteed, while you accuse me nonstop of using headcannons (i use none, since i admit they arent set in stone and are nothing mroe than possible and plausible theories, but nothing more than theories after all, i dont adress them as canon) while you, on the other hand, is doing nothing but bombarding me with headcannons yourself (something that its only in your head, but you consider it canon)

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