Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-27524978-20160114233341/@comment-24821641-20161125041706

This is old but whatever

-He doesn't recognize Frisk as Chara after the fight with Toriel unless they killed everybody in the Ruins.

I mean, there's a chance he might, he calls Frisk a monarch (which Chara would have been had they lived), but that's probably a bad joke for the regicide thing so regardless. Chara, apparently, was 'the only one that understands [Asriel]'. And when Asriel came back, he couldn't feel love. He probably expected Chara to lose their empathy if they ever came back, too, and so to still understand him, and murdering everyone for no reason is definitely a sign of that lmao. He was also probably just really wanting it to be Chara and projecting, like in Pacifist.

-He also doesn't recognize Asgore and Toriel as his parents at all, seeing as he kills Asgore without remorse and calls them by their own names or his own insults (old fool,old hag, stupid king).

Yeah, but he can't feel love. Or remorse. He says he's done everything possible (though that's probably an exaggeration), so that's a lot of murdering of both of them. Of course he doesn't care.

-If you spare Flowey, reload your save and defeat Asgore again, he'll mention only caring about one person/Chara but even then doesn't truly care about them. But judging by his speech near the end of Genocide, he sounds like he does truly care about them, saying a world without his friend is not worth living in.

Didn't he say there being no point living without Chara was what he thought when he first became a flower? Anyway, he doesn't truly care about them, but they're 'the only one who's any fun to play with anymore'. He's incredibly bored and knows how everyone will react to anything he does, so when someone is unpredictable to him he'll still value them, even if it's not actual affection. Plus, I think he's able to remember how love feels even if he can't experience it, ("I thought of all people, SHE (Toriel) could make me feel whole again"), and he really cared about Chara.

- In the True Pacifist route, after Flowey ensnares Frisk's friends, he says that with the human souls reclaimed he can achieve his "true form". Then how come when he got the souls before, he turned into Photoshop/Omega Flowey,a plant-like eldritch abomination, instead of Asriel Dreemurr AKA his real self as the "God of Hyperdeath" (or rather close to that form since he didn't have all the monster souls at the time)? And in the neutral/imperfect route, he seemed pretty keen about taking Frisk's soul and killing every human and monster that stands in his way. Though he said that the one last thing he wanted to do was to use the human souls to "free everyone" in the genocide route.

Er...not sure about this one. Judging by him saying he needs Frisk's soul to become a 'god', he couldn't have become the God of Hyperdeath without seven souls, even though he probably could have been Asriel. And it would be much harder to kill Frisk as a small goat child. 'Free everyone' is probably referring to the Angel/Angel of Death. They're prophesied to 'free everyone' and 'make the Underground go empty', but with the Angel of Death interpretation 'free' means 'free us from life', or whatever Gerson said.

"Chara didn't kill him, you moron. The player/Frisk does."

Er, no. Frisk killed everyone before that, but Sans, Asgore and Flowey were all killed without player input.