Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-32182236-20180704121758

"By the way,determination is something that can increase or been reduced regards the will to live on of the host. In fact omega Flowey overcomes Frisk's determination while he" only "has 6 human souls but in the true end, he has an equivalent of 7 human souls but he cant overcome Frisk's determination (Frisk can load their save file and Asriel tries to get the power to recept by killing Frisk). Which means that Frisk have more determination than Asriel, something they dont had during Omega flowey fight."

True, that's what I've been trying to tell Tsskyx!

"So i feel like the reason why the fallen humans didnt load their save file from the surface because they only became the most determined beings in the underground (presumely because of the fear of death as monsters wanted their death)"

But.. Why did six humans IN A ROW become the most determined being (out of a population of approx. 1-8 billion, depending on when you believe they fell) when they hit the Underground? Why not when they started their climb? Why didn't some random guy playing in the Olympics or some grand-scale event take the power? Why not any of the soldiers fighting in a war?

"When Frisk check the hole of the ball game its says "hole" in red, highliting the lack of trait of this soul/Frisk"

No, that's a reflection of Chara's "no nonsense" personality, which we see in full action in Genocide.

"2.When Frisk get the ball in the hole for the first time its says "Perseverance, Kindness[...] by using these you were be able to win the ball game"but every time Frisk get the ball into hole after this, its ALWAYS says "try as you might, you continue to be yourself ". Why would the first line disappear if its not because this first line indicated that Frisk developed their own personality?"

Hm, maybe because the monsters didn't want someone taking 50G all the time?

"By following their thoughts and feelings Frisk develop their own personality in the whole game, which is reflected by the ball game"

It only said Frisk used all six traits. Not making their own trait. Also, original style is integrity/blue.

"The first time Frisk get the red flag,it gives 50 gold while the second one only provide 20 gold. Why the flag provides so much money for the first time and not the second time if its not because the first flag is a reflection of Frisk developing their own personality."

Once again, monsters don't want someone winning the big jackpot all the time. It's common practice to reduce the jackpot prize after it has been won.

" "ball game"is written in red color which heavily implies that the whole "ball game"was about Frisk developing their own personality"

Exactly.. Where?