Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34798955-20180310144518/@comment-32182236-20190530121041

There's more than just those two points of view.

I consider Chara an anti-villain, getting corrupted... By the death of Asriel. Not by us, but by Asriel's "betrayal" of Chara. Hence, when it comes to the poison, I agree that Chara found no joy in that (except maybe a nice pun)

Similarly, I'm convinced that Chara doesn't take control at all until LV19, with the creepy face, and Chara only deals the final blow to Sans:We did all the rest before it. Evidence towards the cutscenes actually being Frisk involve the fact that how hard you hit the Mad Dummy depends on your LV at the time.

As for their relationship was Asriel, prior to his death.. I find that pretty complicated.

Chara DID care about Asriel, but their hatred of humanity was stronger than their love for Asriel. They wanted Asriel to agree with them about humanity. They made it clear they hated humanity, and Chara was going to show Asriel that reason directly... By making the humans attack for basically no reason at all. (This is why they took their own dead body, instead of, say, attacking the humans independently of each other.) Then, perhaps, the monsters would live in peace without the humans.

But, of course, Asriel refused, getting the two of them killed, and that started a huge chain reaction which ultimately lead to Chara hating monsters as well.