Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26173722-20180625135942/@comment-26173722-20190924115825

I suppose it's possible that this really is the longest Flowey has gone without a reset. But again, taking account of all the other events going on, Alphys seclusion, Flowey befriending Papyrus, and Sans recent laziness, I'd say it couldn't have been very long after Flowey's first reset point. Sure, Flowey has done everything he wanted to do, but that doesn't mean time has moved forward very far. He still spent time befriending Papyrus, which means he was still messing around with people. The idea he just stood there calling for Chara over and over seems unlikely. Like, how long do you think he was just standing there waiting for something to happen? And even if he stood there for days or something, it still would be unlikely anybody would fall in that time.

I didn't say Frisk was a clone of Chara, I said they were a replica. A piece of Flowey he made to look like Chara. You're right though, determination doesn't will people into existence out of nothing. I guess I didn't explain it well. I meant, he willed a part of himself to take the form of Chara (or as close as he could get it).

There's something else I didn't add. Another possibility that I wasn't sure if the add or not since it's pretty speculative. When Asriel died he dusted on not just the flower seeds but also on Chara's body. So part of his essence would live on in Chara's corpse, right? So say if the corpse was giving determination than wouldn't it wake up with the essence of Asriel? It a bit of a stretch I'll admit, I mean there no telling if the body would even be intact at all after all this time, or how it would get a dose of determination. Though, I have been thinking, if Flowey's roots reached down to the spot where Chara was buried... Well I don't know. Like I said I'm not 100% confident in this theory. I just like thinking about because I think there's something more to it.