Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-27136653-20171225143016

Rafip wrote: patience - the ability to wait, or to continue doing something despite difficulties, or to suffer without complaining or becoming annoyed; the capacity, habit, or fact of being patient bravery - the quality or state of having or showing mental or moral strength to face danger, fear, or difficulty; brave behaviour or actions

integrity - the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles that you refuse to change

perseverance - continued effort to do or achieve something despite difficulties, failure, or opposition; to try to do or continue doing something in a determined way, despite having problems

kindness - the quality or state of being kind

justice - fairness in the way people are dealt with; the quality of being just, impartial, or fair

determination - the ability to continue trying to do something, although it is very difficult; firm or fixed intention to achieve a desired end

All of them are being tested or even pushed to the edge while Frisk wonders through the Underground, fights enemies, solves puzzles, makes decisions and dies during countless Pacifists, Neutrals or Genocides. They encounter problems related to these traits during battles, when their soul turns into that specific color, and determination mediates their entire journey. However, that doesn't prove that determination is a trait, as there's no proof that determination is tied to the red color. In fact, determination is NEVER labeled with red in the game! Never. What's more, since all of the other kids had the same powers as Frisk, saying that Frisk's default trait is determination is a bit meaningless. Exactly how would that make them any different from the other humans? All we know is that they didn't get past Asgore, but Frisk did. And that was because Asgore was going easy on Frisk - not dodging and even stopping his attack once we reach 1 HP so that we can heal. If he was going this easily on the other humans, they would have won too. Would you say that their trait was the trait of DT then? Of course no. And also, we know that at LEAST one of them made it to Asgore ("no human has ever made it past Asgore" - Undyne), so at least one of them came that close. Does this mean that not being able to do the impossible is the main reason their souls weren't red? That's a bit weird condition, isn't it?