Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-31536324-20180719000300

""Our reports showed..." = Sans's + someone else's reports. Whoever they were, they weren't the anomaly. That leaves Frisk and Flowey. Frisk can do a genocide run without dying once and the dialogue won't change, proving it was Flowey. Can't believe I need to repeat years old information to you."

First: It's called backing up your claims, you do this in any argument, period.

Second: Is that the whole quote? I want to make sure before saying anything here. Best to be prepared after all.

"That can also be explained through mind control. But even if we say that that's not the case, it still doesn't tell us whether it was always there, or whether it was constructed artificially at some point."

Something we don't need the answer to due to the question in itself being irrelevant to what we're trying to do here.

"All I can see is that it disagrees with the overworld mechanics (which are more akin to our world), so there's two explanations: the overworld is just as weird as the HUD itself, or the HUD isn't natural."

I refer you to THA.

"You refuse to believe that Frisk is stopped from jumping off a cliff by some invisible force, yet you choose to believe that there's nothing unnatural about the HUD at all."

Because there is nothing that implies either of these.

"It directly states that the "player" has some sort of a machine through which they access the world. Which could very well mean that they know that their world is a game from someone's perspective. Plus, on top of that, the entire world of Oneshot is implied to be a simulation. The characters even tried explaining the concept of "folders" to Niko. If that doesn't imply anything according to you, I have nothing else to say."

Now that is evidence that supports your claims while somewhat disproving mine. Still doesn't disprove the part of my claim about Undertale though.

"As I said, there's enough proof to believe that it's unique to humans, which raises the question of why does nobody question it."

Already answered this like five times now.

"And the answer I concluded out of that, was mind control. Got anything better?"

A baseless assumption and conspiracy theory to boot. Weren't YOU the one adamantly AGAINST conspiracy?

My explanation is the exact same answer that I've given the past four or five times you've raised this: they questioned it in the past, they got answers, and they accepted it. No mind control.