Talk:Flowey/@comment-26523710-20160724043841/@comment-24821641-20160807141706

Actually, it seems more likely to me Flowey was made after the other six souls fell. The other humans were able to save, since Toriel says she sometimes feels like she already knew them, but Flowey's dialog if you kill Toriel, reset and spare her implys no one had overrode his reset power before. Also, it's impied humans falling down is really rare, and Sans says in the MTT Hotel that "[Toriel laughed] like it was the best joke she heard in a hundred years." If that's literal (and Sans tends to know things he shouldn't so it probably is), it took that long for all the humans to fall. We don't know how long monsters live but it seems like Alphys has never seen a human before, so she probably was a child or even not born yet when the last one fell, which since she made Flowey, means he couldn't have been "born" before then either.

Flowey did do all those resets, yeah, but I'm fairly certain that even if he spent years before resetting, it would have changed his age back too. Asriel looks around eight to me, and Flowey still acts like a child most of the time, so, probably that.