Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20190128193337/@comment-27136653-20190429060502

Teslamania91 wrote: I don't think I'm gonna continue further if someone decides to be an omega tryhard like this. but I'll just say this. If the other humans could reset, their souls wouldn't have been captured because they would have found a way to either convince the monsters that they were friendly, or found a way to escape. Unfortunately for you, this is Undertale, not Junior Jumble. The plot is more convoluted than you think it is.

And even if they managed to convince everyone that they're good guys, they wouldn't have convinced Asgore. Just because they got captured doesn't mean they didn't have this ability. One explanation works well to explain this, and that is giving away the soul.

Remember Chara's first words to Asriel? They first told their name, before anything, before even freaking out. That seems like the words of someone who has just reset.

So if they could reset, they could also probably reload (since reloading is like lesser resetting). So why didn't their soul automatically reload on their deathbed? Because they were determined to die. And the same can be said about the other humans. They were determined to give their soul to Asgore.

For some I imagine it was due to reason or mercy. But for others, well, I think Asgore may have just been a bit too difficult of an opponent. There is an interesting connection between Sans, Asgore and Undyne. Sans and Asgore both affect your battle interface in unprecedented ways. Sans attacks in it, and Asgore straight up demolishes one of your action buttons. Furthermore, Undyne said that when she first fought him, he kept dodging her attacks. Just like Sans.

All of this is really tentative, but it could serve to explain why the humans lost even with the ability to reset/reload. It was because they had to face the strongest, most skilled fighter in the entire underground. And especially if they could only reset. Because they'd need to start from the very beginning each time. You can imagine this would get tiresome after a while, and in the end, they'd just give their souls away.

And I'll remind you one more time about what Asgore says when you tell him you've fought him before...

He just nods. Despite not remembering the previous timelines. Meaning? The other humans told him this too.