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Yossipossi wrote: He also creates a SAVE FILE which he LITERALLY DESTROYS. He also RENAMES the game.

Fairly sure he knows that this is Undertale. I assume by "renaming the game" you're referring to the "FloweyTale" bit in windowed mode. But that alternative title thing happens at a few other points throughout the game, including during the musical sequence with Mettaton. If this is sufficient evidence that Flowey himself has changed the title, then you would need to add Mettaton as well.

Destroying the save box is an interesting point. You might also add the alteration and "glitching" of the opening cutscene.

Chara's quote, "SINCE WHEN WERE YOU THE ONE IN CONTROL?" shows they're talking to the CONTROLLER.

Also, Chara can speak different dialouge if you do a geno route twice. On the first point, "to be in control" is again a very common phrase outside of video games. The fact that we are "controlling" the character doesn't mean that the protagonist is incapable of having any control in a narrative sense. This line falls along the same lines of Asriel's "This is all just a game." It certainly looks from one angle like a direct acknowledgement of the character's awareness, but a whole host of other things need to be interpreted (or perhaps even ignored) just to make that one thing work.

The change in dialogue on repeat Genocide routes doesn't get us to that conclusion itself. After all, in those lines Chara notes that you are the one recreating the world, and in order to recreate the world you have to sell your soul, meaning Frisk's soul. I need to know where "you" starts indicating the player specifically.

About Alphys, I'm sure Toby made this quote speciffically for AUs as a reference. But again, the idea of alternative timelines is part of the world itself. I'm absolutely willing to grant that the line itself could be a nod to the idea of AUs, but it doesn't mean she has to be aware of herself as part of a game to say it. It's basically dramatic irony: we as audience know more than she knows.

I never made Gerson "Speculation" :I

My bad. Given the spacing between the Gaster entry and the rest of the post, I read it as saying that Temmie, Gerson, and Alphys were being classed as "speculation" on whether they had such awareness, in contrast to the other characters who definitely have such awareness. I didn't realize that the word was being attached to the Gaster entry specifically.