Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20170602170443/@comment-34384670-20180118131030

Alright, that was quick.

1) Well, you've previously said words to that effect, so i'm glad you're admitting some fault at least

2) Given the monsters' relatively peaceful nature, diplomacy would've easily worked (evidence is their treatment of Chara when they fell down - despite being imprisoned for millennia due to humans Asgore treated him like a son - only with personal tragedy did he declare a war that he regretted anyway) and peaceful segregation could've been done with magicians working to create barriers around both populations

3) It's not logical to suggest that 7 humans could create a powerful enough barrier to keep such a powerful being out as OmegaFlowey/Asriel only barely able destroy it and yet 7 billion humans couldn't combine their powers to fight back against one if there happened to be no barrier - even if we assume magicians who can work together to combine their power is relatively rare, it's likely there's at least thousands/millions of them, for example in armies of various countries (again, humans fight each other too), and that plus technology means they could absolutely destroy OmegaFlowey or Asriel if they came up against them. The fact that Frisk has impressive powers of SAVEing ie time manipulation with just determination, and is more powerful than anything except the beings with multiple souls underground, despite presumably not being a magician and being a just a child, shows that even non-magician humans have great power that they could combine to help defeat any threat, and the fact that the human souls could work together to defeat OmegaFlowey and overpower his control shows that human souls can work together in combination, regardless of magicism status. That the 6 initially being conttolled by Flowey could overpower his control only bodes well for, say, 6 free human magicians vs OmegFlowey.

The Asriel with Chara Soul example is him against a village-hardly a representation of how strong all the magicians in thr world working together would be, and they still managed to injure him to death. If he was much more powerful, he could have easily restrained them or blocked their attacks, but the fact they could injure him with fatal wounds suggests the power disparity wasn't huge.

4) I forgot about the humans can't absorb each others' souls thing - fair point. However, you could still have multiple human souls in one being,as with Flowey. You don't think a human could've done similar experiments to Alphys, leading to a soulless being with determination, who like Flowey CAN absorb multiple souls? Or experimented in removing their own souls to allow them to absorb the souls of many others? This is also a terrible threat, given the number of humans, as so though my initial argument was invalid due to my mistake my conclusion remains intact with this new one.