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Alkhor-dm wrote: Mabian wrote:

And the Barrier is stated to have been created by the 7 most powerful human sorcerers. The need for the power of 7 human souls is meant to counteract the power that originally made the Barrier. please give link on any proves of this info.

And in any case Azgor could take souls of diyng people, to not make violence. (or Toriel coul go by herself. she also didn't, so I think - absorbing souls - hard thing, and only few could make it) The story of the War of Humans and Monsters in Waterfall has the following:

"Hurt, beaten, and fearful for our lives, we surrendered to the humans.

Seven of their greatest magicians sealed us underground with a magic spell.

Anything can enter through the seal, but only beings with a powerful SOUL can leave."

It is also never stated in the game that Asgore actually kills any of the children. They could have been killed by various other things, and Asgore might have taken their souls after the fact. Asgore would still not want to actually use the souls to break the Barrier, since he had promised to use the power of the souls to destroy humanity, which he doesn't actually want to do. It's not simply about killing the kids who fall down. It's about inflicting any violence, including once the monsters return to the Surface.

As for Toriel, it is implied that she left very soon after Chara and Asriel died, since she leaves after Asgore declares war and just after the first Golden Flower blooms in the throne room. Not to mention that she doesn't want to inflict violence either, which would be required to get the other six human souls. She does not mention the plan as "we should have done this," but "if Asgore was serious about freeing monsters and getting revenge, he would have done this." It's not an actual plan that Toriel wanted to follow through with.

Ultimately, there's nothing that needs a special explanation. Seven human souls created the Barrier. Logically, an equivalent power is needed to destroy it. That is confirmed by Asriel's actions, since he has the equivalent power of seven human souls when he destroys the Barrier. Everything about the issue is internally consistent.