Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-32182236-20170729213831

So, why did they lose, and Frisk won? They gave up, but not Frisk. Frisk won the Asriel fight by saving their friends, and then saving Asriel himself. However, During that fight, when Frisk is at their most determined point, they can "refuse". When you "refuse" this way, you don't lose progress in the fight. Therefore, you will eventually win.

Also, the SOUL color more than likely shows your DOMINANT trait. Sure, every human had at least some determination (Unless Alphys somehow used CHARA'S soul to extract determination from, but Chara's SOUL likely shattered along with Asriel's when they died as one, so that's implausible.), but Frisk had FAR more. After all, even Frisk shows signs of other traits at times. Pacifist Frisk really is kind! (Genocide Frisk isn't. But the theory has to work for ALL Frisks.) It's just determination is the DOMINANT trait. Sincerity is a MUCH better possibility, (actually what the nochocolate theory page suggests) but it too has problems. What if you go Genocide for the Ruins, go pacifist for Snowdin and Waterfall, then just turn around and go Genocide AGAIN at Hotland? At some point, you're not being true to "yourself"-Are you a pacifist or a ruthless murderer? (The ending you get would be a Neutral Ending, obviously. Undyne being the empress.)

Alphys' history books made humans look cool. The only two humans who made it past Undyne is the kindess and justice SOULS. The justice SOUL with thier "cool" gun, and surefire accuracy would live up to Undyne's expectations from Alphys, and keep that coolness alive! The kindness SOUL's item was a burnt pan. We use pans for cooking, something ELSE Undyne REALLY loves doing! (In a fighting, courageous way! Turning up that heat.. Probably why the pan got burnt.) But FRISK? They have no redeeming qualities (at least from Undyne's point of view.)

So, how did the items end up where they did? I don't think monsters would just move it around. In fact, they COULDN'T have done this to all of them, since the Faded Ribbon is in The Ruins. The exit to the Ruins is one-way, monsters couldn't have taken that ribbon to the Ruins. If you suggest the humans just left their stuff there, then WHY did they do that? Also, what's wrong with the theory that no human made it to Asgore? Is it Toriel finding out Asgore was meekly human another human never arrives? Because Asgore was still able to kill the six humans-The fights themselves can't be how Toriel figured it out. Toriel figured it out because Asgore didn't just cross the barrier with one soul and taken six from the humans.

Painting colors work by absorbing light. Taking away light. Here, traits is adding a sort of energy to the SOUL.

I'm ridiculing SPECIFICALLY the idea of red meaning no trait by taking into considering what colors really ARE. With black meaning no trait, each trait has its own wavelength, and it's easy! Combine them all together into one, and you get white. But with RED as the default, the only way to explain other traits changing the color altogether instead of just turning into colors MIXED with red would be if they added energy to the system to increase the frequency of the light, making the traits a 1-dimensional line, with integrity "between" patiencd and persevearance. It would also mean that Bravery (+1 from red) plus justice (+2 from red) could equal Kindness (+3 from red). Having all the traits would mean it's ultraviolet, making it black, since we can't see UV. You get the problem now?

Undyne's DOMINANT trait is bravery, and possibly determination. Those are the traits we see the most of within Undyne. We BARELY see the others! (Actually, I haven't seen a trace of the Integrity trait within her)

A theory that merges the physics of human SOULS with that of monster SOULS, to form one coherent set of physics that equally applies to BOTH SOUL types, fulling explaing SOULS as a WHOLE. As in, the whole color theory applying to monster SOULS too, to explain why they're white. I'm saying that this is NOT that kind of of uniting theory. It ONLY applies to humans. So we can't use this theory on monster SOULS, because Undyne's defining trait is bravery/determination, and her soul is white, not orange/red(?).