Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-28592150-20160804192002/@comment-13682699-20180113165932

33Nepeta wrote: Alphasaith wrote: 33Nepeta wrote:

Alphasaith wrote:

Koala990 wrote: Well, Flowey is my favorite tho, since he's Asriel :p Flowey and Asriel are two very different people, so this doesn't really make sense.

Flowey is Asriel without a SOUL. Doesn't mean they're not two different people.

Honestly thats more debatable. A SOUL is the culmination of a persons entire being. Without one, you take away what makes a person themselves, so in that sense they are actually two different people. When Flowey was created with the injection of determination, he had all of Asriel's memories. However, just because Flowey has Asriel's memories doesn't actually make him Asriel. He simply knows the experiences that Asriel went through when he was alive.

On the other hand though, a monster's body is a physical manifestation of their SOUL. As such, when they turn to dust, their essence lives on in whatever object they sprinkle it on, including the seed that Asriel's dust had spread on when he died. The part that makes Flowey 'Asriel' is the monster dust that fell on the seed which had belonged to Asriel. Monster dust, being a part of their body, is technically part of their SOUL like I just mentioned before. So, in essence Flowey is actually Asriel without a SOUL.

Now, in order to know who is who more definiteively, you have to define who Asriel is/was and if Flowey could meet that same criteria.

Asriel as a person is defined as monster that had a SOUL, experiences, memories unique to him that allowed him to do and feel things that Asriel would do and feel.

Flowey as a person is similar to Asriel in that he has the past experiences and memories that were unique to Asriel, but he is lacking a SOUL which would allow him to continue to do what Asriel would do and feel, and because of that, he can only imitate Asriel to a certain degree by trying to use those past experiences and memories. So when Asriel became Flowey, he actually stopped being able to 'be' Asriel physically simply because he was missing a crucial part of what made Asriel who he was. Flowey is simply shadow of Asriel, but potentially able to become Asriel if he were to gain a SOUL for himself.