Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28009984-20160319184042/@comment-27701762-20160321200535

1) But Frisk doesn't go through like a "tank." Frisk's success is pretty much built upon their ability to save. Frisk can try and retry in a way that the other humans couldn't, since there is no way that these other humans could have manipulated time in the same way and died, unless they all specifically gave up.

2) The house in the Ruins is most definitely the old house, and not just a recreation. If it were a recreation, there would be either one or four chairs around the table, either only for Toriel (one), or to recreate the table from New Home (four). But there are three: for Toriel, Asgore, and Asriel (since Chara had not fallen down by this time).

4) It's true that it isn't stated that she built the machine. But since the line is "using the blueprints," rather than "using this old machine," she would have had to have built it. It's resemblance to a Gaster Blaster doesn't give us enough information, as from the appearance alone we would need to presume that Gyftrot has some connection to the machine, given that it also has a similarly-shaped head.

5) What is this "Sans copying Toriel?" He clearly has a pre-existing interest in telling jokes, just as you point out that Toriel does. He certainly tries to make the butterscotch pie, and moves in with her, but this isn't some sort of clear indication that Sans is following Toriel like a child. If they have developed anything beyond a deep friendship, it would be a romantic relationship, not a parent-child relationship.

Papyrus may act childlike, but we cannot begin from that premise and arrive at the conclusion that he is a former human child. His fascination with cooking appears to come from his training with Undyne, rather than being some pre-existing love (since he only makes spaghetti). If you want to try to connect the love of cooking to Papyrus, then I can turn Papyrus's knowledge right back on you: Papyrus has no clue what a "pie" is.

As for their ages, A) what indication is there that the skeletons are still "stuck in childhood?", and B) why do you immediately presume that Sans and Papyrus were born before Chara fell down? Given various pieces of dialogue, the game could very well take place 100 years from when Chara fell, and if we used Papyrus's "95" as a birth date (thus being born in 2095 rather than 1995), then he would be somewhere between 15 and 24, with Sans being at minimum 16-25 (and possibly even older). If they are both somewhat immature, the conclusion does not immediately become "they are children," much less "they were former human children."

And a child gets a revolver the way all kids do: by some adult being negligent. Given that the gun is empty, the child could have originally had an empty gun. The child happens to be playing around Mt. Ebott and falls in the way all of the children fall in. They then proceed through the Underground until (presumably) they are killed near the trash pile in Waterfall.