Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-27136653-20180709224133

MysteriousMalice

Could you all just stop replying to me? I'm trying to talk to TheHumanAmbassador over here. It's impossible when peeps take the stuff I say in deep context out of all context and then question the eff I'm on about.

"Gives me the impression that you're trolling me."

That's right. I have no intentions to continue this discussion with you, or anyone except for TheHumanAmbassador. I didn't ask you people to join us. No one did. You just came here, and now you're all expecting me to answer you.

KINDLY READ THIS ENTIRE THREAD FOR CONTEXT, WOULD YOU? (Sarcasm, obviously. I am not expecting you to actually do it.)

"Because I. Hate. Trolls."

Cool. Story. Bro.

/dabs/

"But seeing as how I'm trying to have a civil conversation here, I will ignore my anger and hate, and continue with said conversation."

Please don't. Spare me your discourse. I am trying to defend myself, but soon, I'll just give up altogether, and you'll have to be satisfied with no questions of yours answered altogether.

"It DOES though, if you simply take the rules of the game and think of them as the laws of the world of the game. Do you see how simple and easy that is?"

Yeah. Game rules = it's a game. This discussion happened a year ago already, between me and THC. It's been settled (by a disagreement), and that's what I'm going with. I won't discuss this with you. I'm serious. I won't. It's over. That thread had something like 200 thousand words and led to nothing. I'm not starting another one.

"No, that just means that its a world with different laws and rules to our own."

Kindly write them out then. Every single one of them. Describe motion, gravity, electromagnetism, quantum events, create mathematical formulas that merge magic and buttons, or magic and physical matter for that matter. I dare you.

By occam's razor, I declare that if it looks like a game, it is a game. Or, as one may put it, a Matrix parody. Yeah. Undertale isn't a world, it's just like in the movie Matrix, it's a simulated reality.

"Just because the world has the rules and mechanics of a video game, doesn't mean the world in and of itself is a game."

Not always, you are right in that. But I'd say most of the time it does. It's a logical conclusion after all.

Like, the HELL is your problem with simulated realities? Why are you so scared of them? So what IF Undertale is happening in a simulated reality? WHAT IF?

And I very much do understand the concept of parallel universes. I can imagine the things that could be different. Perhaps, the speed of light could be different. There could be different fundamental interactions between the particles, different quantum values for atoms (if atoms are even a thing in such universes).

But I cannot fathom the idea of a rectangular glowing box with text layed over it somehow making any sense with such simplistic rules. A much better explanation for such occurence WOULD be the pixels of a computer screen.

"The Player is an otherworldly anomaly that sees the world as a game"

Funnily, my head canon is that while WE see the game as a game, the meta stuff is actually not real in that world, and that everything can be explained in it without utilizing the battle interface, or stats.

If your head canon is, that it's still looks the same for those characters, but despite the obvious macro-scale quantized values giving strong hints that their world behaves according to programmed principles, they are oblivious to it for some unknown divine reason, that's no business of mine.

"Alternate Universe, look it up, Undertale falls right into that category."

It rather falls into the Matrix category. Except with even more numbers and whatnot.