Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20181123023529/@comment-32182236-20181209170552

Magic and rationality are not mutually exclusive. Magic is simply what doesn't follow classical physical laws. It has its own set of laws, which can potentially be derived rationally, and become a science of its own.

One of the biggest things we need to take into account is simply that Undertale's world is not our own. So if we want to science it, we need to start from scratch-Laws we take for granted may not apply in Underale's world.

Though, of course, most of the laws of our world can be derived back, like gravity, light, the laws of motion, etc..

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To Ferret:I was not expecting this, but somehow, I found a hole in the possibility that there WEREN'T humans who fell before Chara.

"Legends say that those who climb My. Ebbot are said to never return."

Asriel knows this, so the legend was around when Chara fell. But, if they were the first, then.. Where did the legends originate?

I did not expect to find evidence actually supporting such a stance. Turns out the two theories might be more balanced than I expected.

...Actually, I think I can patch this one. They came from the nature of Ebott itself, when the Barrier was a known thing. The original legend was probably that if one climbed the mountain, passing beneath the Barrier, one could not return, for they were locked out, and it eventually got shortened to its modern form.

Not a hole after all. But I have given you a potential lead, if I left some gaps in my patch. I suppose you can try to find them, if they exist.