Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26907577-20191002153041/@comment-32182236-20191102000339

I just realized something.

That means the statistics about when the humans fell earlier are useless. That is, if this idea is correct.

Because the seven humans before Frisk didn't fall randomly.

Instead, the six after Chara likely fell relatively close to each other.. Then there was an abnormally large gap between the last human's fall and Frisk's.

Enough for Toriel to mention that it's been a long time since anyone fell.

(And our wizard hypothesis has an explanation as to why. Even though that wasn't even its intention. The fact that it made a prediction is a good sign. I guess there is a way for a hypothesis to make predictions-Try to explain one thing, and see if it then predicts other things.)

That means they could have fell.. Pretty much at any point in time, as long as the gap to Frisk's fall is significantly large compared to the average.

Farther in the past? Makes sense-Perhaps nobody naturally fell for a long time afterwards.

1980AD? Also makes sense-It's not like anyone would have naturally fell before then.

Because Frisk is the first and last natural case of a human falling into the Underground.

And all we have to support Chara falling underground naturally is the fact that they tripped. They still climbed Mt. Ebott, so they still intended on going to the place that nobody returns from. So I don't think Chara counts as a natural fall under the wizard hypothesis.

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So we're going to have to find an alternative way of dating the humans' fall. Perhaps if we had a way of dating the items they held, we could have a lower bound on when they fell? (As they couldn't have fallen before the item began to exist! Not sure how to make an upper bound on the year, though. Though we should expect it to be more likely that it's close to the lower bound, unless said human is fond of antiques.)

This might also be a way to test the wizard hypothesis. We should expect the six humans to fall around the same time if the wizard hypothesis is true. Yet, if it is false, then we should likely expect the humans to get closer together in time as they approach Frisk's time, unless there's another reason why this shouldn't happen.

So let's try and find a way of dating the items the humans carried on them.