Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25983468-20160329120934/@comment-27724045-20160331223227

I think Sans probably had reset before Flowey showed up.Whether that be because he's a human/Ness or not, either way he seems to remember alternate timeliens, because of how much knowledge he has over them.Which likely means if Flowey and Frisk didn't exist, Sans would get the Determination.Granted he doesn't come back at the end of the game after dying, and only has one HP, unlike Undyne.But the thing is knowing about Save/load, kinda messed with his Determination, lowering it down a good degree.(Which could also explain the 1 HP.)Below Sans is probably Asgore and Toriel, I think Boss Monsters have some Determination as well, and are able to hold more than other Monsters, likely due to having more physical form.This would explain why their souls linger after death.It's possible that Sans has enough Determination to match some humans.Perhaps even the six humans that entered the Underground.(Which could explain why they were able to be kiled in the first place.)beneath beneath that is probably Undyne. Also, kinda sorta unrelated.Isn't it ironic Undyne, (the character who's name is literally UNDYING.) is in love with the character who has almost entirely (in some versions of the story entirely.) lost the will to live?