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I modified the examples I gave and I think they make more sense now.

AMALGAMATES

Alphys created the AMALGAMATES by injecting MONSTERS with huge quantities of DETERMINATION. DETERMINATION is something that exists in MONSTERS in small quantities. This means that the natural balance of how they are composed would be broken. In order to compensate, their bodies would merge together, thus creating what we know as an AMALGAMATE. Merged or fused are not to be confused by absorbed though. Even if they share a body, they still maintain their separate SOULs. Their composition must have changed though, since Alphys used a lot of DETERMNATION on them. The layer of DETERMINATION in their SOULs must be so thick that they would be able to put it back together. The previous statements I cannot really prove but, another reason you might be unsuccessful on killing them could be because they are a body with many SOULs now. If you attacked and managed to “break” one of the SOULs, there would probably be enough determination around in the others to put it back together. I think they simply can’t be killed anymore, or at least not in a traditional way.

UNDYNE

It’s unclear how Undyne got her DETERMINATION. But I don’t think Alphys would inject her or let her inject herself with some. It she couldn’t have taken it from Alphys’ without her noticing either, since Alphys wouldn’t tell anyone about the experiments. She wouldn’t even know about it. I think she got hers naturally. Remember that monsters have determination in their composition just not huge amounts of it. So she might have increased it on her own. Unfortunately, the balance that was broken couldn’t be compensated. And since she didn’t have any other monster near so she could merge with them, she started to fall apart and eventually died.

FLOWEY I don’t have clear yet. The only explanation I could come up with is that this isn’t the connection between BODY and SOUL, but a lack of it. Flowey can EXIST while Asriel can’t EXIST and Asriel can LIVE while Flowey can’t LIVE. Still, they hold each other together. An external layer of DETERMINATION filled with MAGIC. You break it and it’s gone, since there’s not even a SOUL to put back together. I think it’s a good possibility, but I can’t say I’m certain.

CHARA I’m still thinking about too. I don’t have clear how exactly they were reincarnated. I don’t know what happened to their part of the SOUL after Asriel’s turned to dust… What I can tell you is that I think it’s related with the SAVE/LOAD thing. If I said they somehow used LOAD and reincarnated, it’d be too farfetched though. It could be a RESET? I still have to find something that proves this, so I’ll keep thinking about it. :)