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Also, Frisk can do as much as 90 damage in one hit if perfectly timed against Undyne the Undying.

If Toriel knew that Frisk would kill everyone in the Ruins, she could easily stop Frisk after that (unless excess leveling?). At LV 3-4, you wouldn't be able to do much against 80 DEF. However, she is unaware of what is happening and is killed in one shot in the actual game. Isn't her DEF considered to be -9999 at that point?