Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20170602170443/@comment-34384670-20180118121322

Sadly my long reply got removed as I hadnt registered, and when i did it refreshed the page and removed my comment - I'll try again:

Others have painted out some of your fallacious reasoning in regards to the first offender being a monster with a human soul, but I'm gonna grant you that assumption for a second and argue that you're still wrong: 1) Damning an entire race for the actions of one is wrong - this point should at least stop you from saying stuff like the monsters had it coming - it's one thing to say the sealing is necessary and another to suggest they all deserved it 2) It doesn't justify the murder of many innocent monsters - just put on trial the offendor(s) and seal the rest, that would be proportional 3) It's established that there is a giant power difference between humans and monsters, with nearly all of the monster souls underground (perhaps the boss souls are not counted with "nearly") equalling the power of one human soul. Given the timeline of undertale, there would be 7+billion humans overground. Even including the 6 human souls underground, that's a total of 7 human soul equivalent power vs 7billion - the humans collectively are an order of magnitude of ONE BILLION times stronger. This is consistent with even the most powerful characters' actions - OmegaFlowey with 6 human souls (and no soul of his own) could destroy the underground rewrite save files etc cannot destroy the barrier, and Asriel, despite him having even greater power, only varely meets the requirements for barrier destruction. This implies that the barrier contains all these events in the underground and that the humans are unaffected by all the events in those playthroughs - and that barrier is the power of 7 humans. 7 Billion should find it childs play to protect themselves if a handful of monsters aquire human souls, thus rendering their actions excessive, unjust and unnecessary. 4) By your logic, humans should live separately too - we see what OmegaFlowey with 6 human souls could do- imagine what a single cruel and stupid human could do, surrounded by countless targets!

Regarding point 3, I admit there's speculation as to what's happening in the human world during those events - but even if the barrier is only for physical objects not time manipulating, the collective determination of the humans should easily act as protection given, again, the huge power difference. It's also possible that the laws of physics are different within the barrier, thus those events simply don't occur in the same way in the human world. Even in this case, whatever powers/abilites beings with multiple souls/wih a soul mix have overground, the power disparity means the humans should find it no harder to handle than when evil humans acquire fellow human souls for criminal activity, for example (presumably the human race's development must have had preventing those who would do such a thing as a crucial element - again we're not given details).