Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32266658-20171213012727/@comment-33883848-20190612135718

Unikitty16 wrote: MagomaevaAmina wrote: IFanon wrote:

MagomaevaAmina wrote: IFanon wrote:

MagomaevaAmina wrote: IFanon wrote:

MagomaevaAmina wrote: Unikitty16 wrote: I perfer Pacifist Ending cause no Chara. But don't judge me but I do hate Nuetral route. You can kill everyone except 1 monster and still be neutral. Chara IS present in the pacifist end,Flowey himself confirm so in the post credits scene "See you latter Chara"but unlike in souless pacifist end ,they let Frisk to live their happy life as they didnt do a genocide run and so Chara doenst have to yang their happy ending as in normal pacifist end Frisk deserve their happy ending Not particularly, Flowey THINKS you are Chara, and he was probably reminiscing or pretending they were there. Theres nothing that implies that he only THINKS you are Chara (why would he)and Flowey has a good reason to believe that Chara is present(since he already realized that Frisk is not Chara).Combine this with the presence of Charas memories,stats etc...in all runs,then it become pretty clear that Chara is present in every run.After all,why wouldnt they ? Their body(along their essence that was attached to it as evidenced by the fact that chara remembers the coffin's experience)was buried at the begining of the game where Frisk starts their journey.And i wonder how the level of violence can bring people back to life within the established lore But why does Flowey apparently know that it's not Chara, and then Asriel seemed he didn't know that until later? Did absorbing all the SOULs wipe his memory? Do you mean that frisk is not Chara ir what? I know Frisk isn't Chara, but how would you know they were present in the Pacifist Route? Narr!Chara isn't particularly canon Iam not talking about Narra!Chara,iam talking about the presence of Charas memories in every run(when Friks dies or sleep or fall),their name in the menu and on the stats,the jokes that Frisk tell to Woshua etc.....All of this indicates that they are with Frisk in every run.And Frisk fell on Chara's grave,meaning that the start of the game was the moment Frisks dt awakened them from death I never noticed this. I just assumed Toriel planted the flowers to cushion any human's fall.

" How did you get back to the RUINS from here...? .. wait, I know. She must have taken you when she left. And decided to give you a proper burial, rather than... Hanging out in the basement forever"-Flowey

This is why Chara's coffin is empty and why both Toriel and Asriel return to the start of the game.Chara's essence was somehow lingering on their body since they remember how it felt like to be in the coffin"Its as comfortable as it looks",meaning that the start of the game is the only place where Chara could possibly be awakened by Frisk.