Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-31981697-20170811065836

TheHumanAmbassador wrote: To put it simply, it's about whether the red SOUL even is a special trait of determination. If there's such a THING as a "determination SOUL". I do have an actual answer to your question, the two would share control over Flowey, like with Asriel and Chara.

Now, there are a LOT of side points, but they've all been brought up because they're also pieces of evidence that red is determination. For example, the reason why we're discussing how Asgore knows about SAVING and LOADING is because of my case that the six humans before couldn't SAVE and LOAD, because that is a trait of determination, what the RED SOUL could do. And I used him smashing the MERCY button as evidence that he has this kind of meta-knolwedge, he doesn't need a human to use it on him.

The placement of the items is also a point here, as I've pointed out that if the humans could SAVE and LOAD, they could LOAD wnever they made a mistake this way, and could even beat Asgore.

That's the best I can do, there are other, more complex points, but they all came from whether the determination SOUL actually exists (red being determination) about saving and loading im pretty sure the six other humans gave up cause every monster might have been stronger back then also your correct with the asgore breaking the mercy button its unknown how he knows about the HUD