Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20181123023529/@comment-35806478-20181130220810

Chapter 5: "Game Theory: The Truth Behind W.D. Gaster!"

You claim that Gaster is stealing people's SOULs to try and break the barrier. I'll tell you why that's false on multiple accounts.

Your first piece of evidence is that the people in the amalgamates must not have fallen ill to disease or old age. Why? Because the people who were falling ill were previously very healthy. And as we all know, healthy people can't get sick! But seriously, there's nothing suggesting that the monsters couldn't have fallen ill to a plague of some sort. Therefore, there's nothing odd about the amalgamates.

Now you raise a good point. How did the Vegetoids become a part of the amalgamates, when they exclusively live in the ruins? The answer is Toriel. Remember, there's no hospital in the ruins, and the plague must be pretty bad, since no-one succeeded in just using healing magic. Thus, Toriel would have had to take the Vegetoids to Alphys. And before you say that someone would have recognized the former queen, remember that not only does she go out to get groceries, but she even used to participate in the Thundersnail races that Napstablook hosts. That's all the way out in Waterfall! You also say that Toriel making daily rounds somehow cannot be for any fallen humans, because it's been a long time since a human fell. But think about it from her perspective. From Toriel's perspective, if she ever misses a human, they'll be wandering around aimlessly, encountering monsters and tripping over puzzles. That cannot happen!

Now for your final piece of evidence. Muffet says she was paid by a man who could "shape-shift" in the shadows. You claim this is Gaster. I claim it's Mettaton. First of all, Mettaton at this point has his EX form at the ready. If he changed into his EX form before encountering Muffet, and then changed back into his normal form when he left, it would appear that he had shifted in the shadows. Keep in mind that it's not really clear if Muffet follows the news outside her spider cave. She didn't know who Alphys was in the Genocide Route, after all. And one final thing - Mettaton '''literally says that he paid everyone to attack you. '''I can't find the quote, but it's out there on the interwebs.

Oh, and I must address how you think that (and this is the new, new dumbest thing I've ever heard) Gaster is a human mad scientist. There has never been any indication that Gaster is a human. If Gaster fell down after Chara, he would have been murdered almost instantly, much less promoted to Royal Scientist. And even if Gaster is a human mad scientist, you have no proof that he still has his SOUL for determination generation purposes. It would have likely been shattered across time and space.

Therefore, no-one fits the role of the "Soul-Stealer" because there never was a SOUL-Stealer.

End of Chapter 5