Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20190721003717/@comment-32182236-20190812174734

For one, the meta-storytelling aspect we need to eliminate completely. Remember, one of my rules is that meta is not an explanation. It needs to be explained in-universe.

So scratch that off.

As for the magician trick.. Okay, where was Asriel before Flowey transformed? Why do they both want us to think they're the same.. And then have Asriel tell us to think of him NOT as Flowey? If he doesn't want us to think of Asriel as Flowey... then he should have just revealed the trick. Asriel is saved, Flowey's someone else, remember Asriel as Asriel, that's it.

And the entries? We do have evidence that Asriel was doing something with the flowers, as we see the very room where they exist. And if Alphys made up all the entries, why did she do it? Who did she intend to fool? This was the True Lab, and since she wrote Entry 4, which flat-out contains tapes she doesn't want Asgore to see, Asgore can't be the person she's trying to fool. And nobody else would have been there to see the entries-Otherwise, the families would have discovered the truth about what happened to their children, or, if there was no experiment at all.. That Alphys made up a testimony of the families calling, when no such thing occurred. (Plus if they could go to the True Lab to see the entries, they could go to the True Lab to see the actual Amalgamtes, and link it to Alphys.)

This means the True Lab was not available to the public.. And she wasn't even expecting ASGORE to see the entries.

So, once again, who was she trying to fool by faking entries of an experiment?

Though I do agree with one rebuttal of evidence you used-The Flowey face. But only because he could have messed with the entry even if it wasn't about him.

Even still, the rest of the evidence is more than enough.

Anyways, did you look at the four qualities of a probable theory over on the other thread?