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SEVEN human souls. Chara is not innocent, definitely, because they think that 7 senseless murders is for 'the greater good' of monsters getting freed. What the humans did to the monsters was wrong, but this is how a war works: Both sides felt they needed to act in defense, and the monsters even fought for their side because they felt that the war was wrong. I bet you they would have done the same thing to humans, if they were much stronger. Monsters and Humans are not innocent. The point I was trying to make is there are plenty of people like Frisk who don't want violence in the world, and Chara wants to murder those people just because they're humans. Imagine this, it's a bad comparison, but what if you saw someone who supposedly had murdered a child, one who had a life so ahead of them. And monsters had probably been generalized to the point of "they'll kill anyone that comes their way!" and they acted in what was only rational defense, either in the fear of it happening to them, or to avenge the child for what they thought Asriel did. Humans are not innocent. But NOBODY is innocent. Not even the most purehearted people haven't committed some distasteful acts. Monsters are not innocent. Asgore made the foolish mistake of murdering children just because for what he thought was right. Toriel did not stand up to Asgore when she had the chance. Asriel agreed to Chara's plan because they couldn't see past Chara's manipulation. And the humans did what they thought they had to do in what they felt was self-defense, even though it was a mistake. We ALL do this. Whether you're a monster, or human, everyone makes mistakes. You can't just say someone's innocent or not in Undertale, because that's not how it works. It always tought us that nobody is good or bad. Take this for example: Asgore just wanted to give hope and free his people, but doing so he killed 6 people. He's not good or bad. Asriel wanted to do the same thing as Asgore, but he couldn't see through Chara's manipulative front. He's not good or bad. I bet you even Frisk isn't innocent. Nobody is like that ever. So you can't just say that someone's good or bad.