Talk:Asgore Dreemurr/@comment-26902289-20160428125724/@comment-1260497-20160428141921

We have to remember that when a monster doesn't want to fight, their defense lowers drastically. For all we know 80 defense could simply be what Asgore would have in a fight, but due to the fact that he doesn't want to genuinely kill the protagonist, his defense isn't what it would normally be and the stats are simply hiding that.

An example of this occurance would be in Undyne's fight before the 1.001 update. Eventually her defense would decrease from 0 to -90 for whatever reason, and it was even displayed in the 'Check' ACT. However since the update, it states 20 defense at all times, regardless of her defense actually lowering or not.