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2853riverside wrote: Why is Chara (AKA : The fisrt fallen human ) refered to as the villian in undetale ?

There is a large ammount of evedence pointing to why Chara could be labled the main villian. First lets us take a look on the past life of this child. Chara was from a small village refered to as the "coloney" where the people belived in the tales of the monsters and a larger force or being known as " The Player" this being was said to be the one who could fix the world as they were speaking of the " Resets" in the underground. The villiage Chara was born and raised in was well a relgious society where they felt the " Player" was some sort of " God". In the basic terms they belived in "god" or " the holy spirit" and they wanted Chara's generaation to be pure. Now they knew of souls but they did not OF the souls meanign they were using a metaphoric term. If you had an unpure soul they would douce you in liquid and zap you with a cattle prod. Thus leaving you "Pure" for when the "player" comes to "reset" the world. Now chara was born into the village but they had an older brother. Ray was his name and he knew how bad the villiage was due to him being forced into many of the punishments. He had left when he tirned eighteen and promised to chara he would come back and take them away to a better life. Chara was abused by their parents since Ray had left. Each and evry time chara had did not do as they were told they would be "purified" then punished by thier parents. part of the reason chara was abused was beacuse of the way they had looked. They were genderless. Looking like a male and a femal but identifyin as neither. They were called " he" by their father and " she" by their mother and if they responded wrong then they were punsihed. Now chara also had blood red eyes that some had called the child a deamon or a devil child, thus leaving an impact on thier self esteam and how they veiwed the world. As this is how the soul of chara ( The soul of determination) began to become corrupted. Chara had finaly had enough of the way they were treated and they fled from their viliage. Now this is where they landed themselves in the underground as they had tried to commit suiscide bu jumping into the mountain. Now chara is found by Asriel Dremur the prince of toriel and asgore but when they adopt chara they are unawre of how the child had grown up. Now when chara ran away that was the same day Ray had come back to the villiage to sneak chara away and into the city where they could both begin a new life. It was not long before chara wanted to kill humaity but it was years after them falling into the underground. They ate buttercup flowers Asriel absorbed their sould the humans killed them and so on and so on. Now i have a few other threories about what happend to chara. we all now who Frisk is, they are the second soul of determination but what is the connection btween the two?

When chara ran away from home I think they had a very young sibling. I think frisk is that mising sibling. I have seen evidence where we know frisk is mute and uses sign lanuage to speak. Or they suffer from a condiotn that makes them senstive to light, movement, ect. Now what if Ray chara's brother was coming back to get both children and only found frisk ? Think about it. If chara and frisk have the same soul then that could meant they are related and frisk was only a child when they were taken with chara. So chara had taken frisk with them wanting to give them a better life as well, but they were cought and sadly chased by some people where chara had to leave frisk behind at the bottom of the mountian. What chara could not have known was that ray was in the group of people and he found frisk. taking them to the city where they are raised and given the better life. Now frisk is about eight when they fall into the underground the reasaon for them falling is unknown but what if ray had told them about chara and where they could have gone. Thus leading them to the path on climbing the MT. and tryign to find the lost child.

As I stated before Ray is only a threory but it coud be possible. He was determined anough to leave and recue his younger siblings from a living hell but he could only save one. Now what I find interesting is that in some other veiws when asriel comes to the surface after absorbing chara in the crowd of people Ray can be seen and ray was a hisrtioan or somthing like that and he knew the monstes were real and when he saw asriel he saw chara some how. he knew they were there but the oher humans had already killed asrel and chara. It is sad to say that chara is not the reason for them both dying.

It couls seem possible that when frisk is possed by chara they know who frisk is simply due to the fact that they some how firgured out the other soul. if you peice it all together you can easly find out the follwing.

Chara has a corrupted soul due to an abusive past and losing hope after ray not comingo for them. Leacing frisk behind nd dying after being killed by humanity. They try to corrupt the other souls but they fail and each one dies. Soon enough asriel is beat but not killed as he is revived and he fades alosn with chara who's spirit sticks with frisk afte they save the underground.

So in conclusion chara was not the real villian in undertale.

The real villian was humanity. Humaity only corrupted a poor soul and it led to a pointless death of many. Sadly there is no other veiws of this afte rthe game ends.

please tell me what you all think. Is this canon or an idea?