Talk:Chara/@comment-35030974-20200103203535/@comment-32182236-20200129005834

That looks like flavor text.

It is flavor text, in fact.

Meaning that it comes from the narrator.

So that shows Chara doesn't think that Astigmatism is evil.

Who happens to be a monster.

So there's something. (Then again, based on my take, Chara probably just thinks the monsters are stupid, not evil. Not fighting back against "evil" humans would be seen as an act of stupidity, not an act of evil.)

Yeah, while I've always gone against those who claim Chara did nothing wrong, I really see them as a flawed character. Just like basically everyone else in the game.

Toriel's flaw:Overprotectiveness

Papyrus' flaw:???

Undyne's flaw:Hatred against the humans (for banishing them!)

Alphys' flaw:Sees herself as a failure and tries to impress us

Mettaton's flaw:Will do anything to perform for humans.. Even kill one.

Asgore's flaw:Anger (from losing both of his sons at the hands of humans)

Flowey's flaw:Lack of the ability to care.. Curiosity.. He's a mirror of completionists, in many ways.

Chara's flaw:Just plain hatred.

Sure, they're no hero. But nobody in the game is a hero. (Except Pacifist Frisk. Though it is possible to save most characters.

There are two exceptions to this, however. You can't save Chara.. and you can't save yourself if you've done a Genocide Route. (Though that's likely due to Chara's possession.)

Given this, I consider Chara as an Anti-Villain, just like the enemies we encounter in the game. Which makes both the CDS and the "But Chara made me do Genocide they're the TRUE VILLAIN" interpretations incorrect in my view.

By the way, the things Chara does in the Genocide Route are far more explicit than the things they do in the Pacifist Route. We really don't know how good or evil they are in that route. In Genocide, they're definitely messed up. They destroy the world. That's not "morally ambiguous", that's flat-out evil. Frisk at least has the excuse of "I was trying to kill the evil monsters to save the humans, because humans and monsters are enemies!" Chara? Not so much (by destroying the world, they also destroyed the monsters that were evacuated. Nice job BREAKING IT!!)

So the distinction doesn't really hold. And since we see explicit bad actions in Genocide, and not explicit good things in Pacifist, guess which side looks the most reasonable to take?