Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20181123023529/@comment-32182236-20181218125614

GASTER was shattered across time and space, not his SOUL. You do know that essence and SOUL are two diffrent things, right? That's the basis for Flowey's creation as a SOULless being who ks also Asriel! And the SOUL was never recovered because Sans has it.

(As I had stated before, I don't believe this either, but I find it as a nice branching point that I WOULD believe if it was proven that Gaster was a human.)

Flowey calls you Chara in the Genocide Route in his speech and after killing Toriel, whilemAsriel calls you Chara througout his fight.

So it's not the only time, though I don't recall anyone other than Asriel doing it. (Since Flowey is Asriel). And do note Asgore supposedly calling us Chara is us getting a memory of when Chara was dying. It matches Tape 5. A similar effect happens if you go to bed in Toriel's house after she decides she's going to destroy the door to th ruins, as a dream.

Papyrus always just calls you "human", Toriel as "my child", Sans never calls you Chara, Undyne never does it.. I'm not sure about the rest, it'll probably take some more fact-checking.

However, it seems to be clear that the Man is talking to Chara, not Frisk. Which would explain that line about it having been a long time. Because while that wasn't the case for Frisk, it WAS the case for Chara. You know, the actual intended recipent of the call?

Now, to my full analysis. MINUS what I already responded to.

Well, it at least makes you present evidence for once, making your case actually a valid one! Even if it only makes your case stronger, it still brings us closer to the truth when I point out you hadn't presented any evidence yet. Ferret, evidence is everything. With it, your theory is almost certainly true, and without it, your theory is nothing, and has nothing. You think my goal is to prove one very specific theory that hasn't been proven yet? No, it's to bring both of us closer to the truth. Whichever side the evidence supports, so be it, that side was probably the better one anyway, since, well, that's what the evidence supports.

Besides, now that I've made you scavenger for evidence, you'll have a stronger argument since you managed to find it!

Yes, the Darkest Experiment was a turning point. It's the exact moment of the Gaster Retcon, where Gaster was deleted from history, but all of his creations remained, as remnants. (I guess I might be using that term wrong. What do you call something that exists as the only living evidence of someone who has been erased from history? Existing in a world with that someone, even as nobody else knows who he is, while also being unexplainible without said person having existed?) It's the shift from Timeline Alpha to Timeline Beta. This is most dedinitely a pivotal point in the story.

I've explained my take on the fall before. It was just as the Follower said:Experiments went wrong. The machine malfunctioned in the midde of the process of bringing him to the realm by which S/L/R exists, so that he may travel to any point in time he wants. He's recreating the power, without its artificial limitations. This was no coincidence either, now that we have the questioning of Dr. Alphys meeting a similar fate. I believe it happened because Gaster failed to account for how the mechanical hardware would have operated in that theoretical realm.

As you might know, machines work by a massive bunch of electrical currents, interacting with each other in just the right way, to form a program. If that got interfered with somehow, like, for exampke, the very laws that they move being altered, by being brought to the S/L/R void, where the mechanics are different, and there's likely far more magic than before, the program just gets corrupted, and the machine would malfunction. This is why we find it broken.

And if that looked like something Gaster could have EASILY took into consideration, and wasn't hard enough, partway there, half of it would follow the physics of the Overworld, and the other half would follow the physics of the S/L/R void! So maybe Gaster DID try to take that into consideration, but the transition still did him in! And if he tried to take the transition into account, maybe it turned out that this failed too, because that's like mixing half of one circut board, and half of another.

Seeing that he was already partway into the 4-dimensional realm, instead of just being shatteed across SPACE through that explosion, the extra dimension of TIME was added as well.

Now to our Skelebros.

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When it comes to sleeping, Papyrus is the anomaly once again. The Snowed Inn is evidence monsters do regularly sleep, and Undyne makes that clear as well, if you call Papyrus and Undyne where Sans had slept. More evidence pointing to PAPYRUS being fake and SANS being real. Sans' mouth at least moves, because he talks, and he just doesn't have very many facial expressions besides his eyes. And I already talked about eating, monsters eating food is natural, so once again, Papyrus is the anomaly, not Sans. Most monsters know what humans are, like Undyne, the dogs, Temmie, and the many monsters which attack you, and just about everyone dreams to see the sun again. Papyrus has never met a human anymore, so it'd make sense for him to be unsure if he's really seeing a human right now. It's like a ravid fan asking if he's realy seeing their favorite celebrity in person right now!

And I've already argued this was the ketchup he's drank over the years, and that he does die the moment our C͘҉͞h̷̕á̢̛r̴̨̢a̴͠͡͏'ş҉͝ LV increases.

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Of course they're not bulletin board messages, they're private entries, that are probably meant for only the Scientist to read. If Alphys didn't have access to Gaster's entries, that's yet another reason to start again at 1, don't you think?

Flip it around. Gaster didn't make his own list, Alphys made HER own list. Gaster's list came first, THEN Alphys'. Since Alphys was hired years later after Gaster, just as you pointed out! Was Gaster's messages being writen alongside Alphys' or not? Did she work with Gaster or not? Add some consistency into your theory, Ferret! You're doing a MatPat again! If Alphys WAS working with Gaster, the entry was probably to Sans and Alphys, the two scientists known to be working on science at the time. If she WASN'T, the entry WAS to Sans and Papyrus, but it wasn't made at the same time as Alphys Entry 17, and there is no link on the timeline! So, which one is it?