Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27023843-20160702213248/@comment-32182236-20171023195706

Actually, both at the same time. I consider pre-death Chara as somewhat good, and post-death Chara as evil. Let's go over the evidence.

Long ago, there was a human who hated humanity-This being why they climbed the mountain. (Asriel tells us this is why they climbed the mountain.) Them seeing the hole, tripping and falling is what the kickstarter story tells us, and the intro does show that Chara tripped.

We know that Chara picked up their own body, that they hated humanity, and that Asriel wanted to know why they hated humanity, but was never told. And Chara attemping to show Asriel that humans are evil, to get him to understand seems like a plausible reason to do this. Alternatively, they could have wanted to attract the humans to attack, so Asriel has less of a reason not to attack, and since the humans are now right there, it'd be easier to kill them. Asriel dying when they reached New Home comes from the fact that his dust spread across the garden-It was New Home's garden. Alphys injected Flowey with determination to bring him life, and it was Asriel, using flowers from Asgore's garden, so it had to be that one.

Frisk's determination awakening Chara comes from the start of the Genocide Speech:"Thank you. Your power awakened me from death., and that Chara is the narrator (You only get narration after the Flowey fight, and during the Flowey fight, Chara's name isn't there. Then there's Frisk getting Chara's memories in Waterfall, and "if you laid down here, you might not ever get up". There's much more evidence of NarraChara too.) Chara being SOULess is simple-They came back to life the same way Flowey did-Though pure determination. In fact, this new form of Chara is now the embodiment of the feeling you get when a stat increases. That includes HP, which increases when you're filled with determination. Post-death Chara is determination incarnate, but still Chara.

Chara makes a scary face right after Flowey mentioned hard feelings for what happened back then... It's clear Chara has a grudge here, especially considering the way they kill Flowey-They don't do it in one hit, they hit Flowey many times, ripping the flower into shreds. They refer to the monsters as "the enemy", so there clearly is hatred of monsterkind here.

In my original post, I actually went through evidence that Chara DOES want you to do Genocide. They want all the monsters DEAD. They want to erase the pointless world, and move onto the next. As for wanting Pacifist after Genocide, if you play Genocide twice in a row, you get "Should you choose to recreate the world once more, another path would be better suited." They WANT you to do Pacifist. But, after Pacifist, they possess Frisk, since they have Frisk's SOUL, and either X's out the monsters, a sign they wish to kill them, or does a Flowey-laugh. Clearly, they only want a Pacifist Run for the sole reason of destroying the Surface too.

Chara wants Frisk to do Genocide, but they have no real influence until Frisk initates it. Therefore, both Chara and Frisk are responsible for the Genocide Run, and they are both evil in said run.