Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20190721003717/@comment-32182236-20190927152602

Right, Boss Monsters, like Toriel, would only be able to die by choice, if this were true.

And yes, they don't want to die, so it WOULD have to be a conspiracy. And the second one is certainly more probable by the Razor. And the Razor has been used over what we see as well. Think about why we don't think ghosts are real, despite the fact that they have been seen.

Either:


 * 1-Somehow, these ghosts can only be seen by certain people, are different depending on.. who knows what, always choose to leave no surviving evidence of their existence, and never slip this up
 * 2-These are hallucinations.

I'm sure a paranormal investigator could chime in and make option 1 filled with even more ridiculous claims.

So a world where everything is canon is possible... But not necessarily true, and it is possible for there to be imperfections in the medium used to reveal canon.

So, either the medium is flawless, and there's a giant conspiracy.. Or the medium is not flawless.

(Or it could have flaws and the conspiracy be true as well, but in that case we have no reason to assume the conspiracy at all.)

And Occam's Razor brings us over to there being flaws.

I'm just hoping that doesn't turn this series into a circular argument. Since I'm bringing up Occam's Razor long AFTER I had already used it.

...I think I'll introduce Occam's Razor using something completely independent of all of this to avoid it becoming that. Like how it's possible to construct a hypothesis that Flowey is in fact NOT Asriel (someone actually managed to do this.. Of course, it was meant to show how we can't be certain of anything from looking solely at the facts.), but Occam's Razor tells us we shouldn't believe that one.

Though I would like to ask anyone that decides to seriously go along with option 1 a question. Actually, several.

1:Exactly how many people are a part of this conspiracy?

I'm convinced this could only work if EVERYONE's in on it. Which is going to lead into some follow-up questions.

2:Who gains what from this? And at what price?

Seriously, what's the POINT of all of this?

3:How has nobody leaked anything?

..Okay, there's probably many, many more problems. By the time someone explains all of this, there's probably going to be at least 10 added assumptions.