Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-32182236-20170730012826

1-Good point. That part makes sense. But we literally have a soul of PATIENCE. I'm sure THAT soul would be patient enough to keep fighting until they eventually win.

2-So.. How is that a trait? How can you be more "yourself" then someone else is theirself?

3-Oh yeah, everything in that shop was from the dump, INCLUDING the Empty Gun! Well, then only GREEN fought Undyne. Which makes things even simpler! The green SOUL might have tried to introduce cooking to Undyne, but when Undyne tried her hand at it, she burnt the pan! (Hey, at least she didn't burn the entire house... Hopefully she didn't. If she did, that's TWO times she lost her house. Poor Undyne...)

Water from Snowdin flows to HOTLAND-Not the dump. That's why Ice Wolf throws ice into the river to cool down Hotland. Only Waterfall water would flow to the Dump.

4-Then what about the first kid? (Yeah, we can't assume that, I agree. Nobody said the places they died in determines the order they fell! What's to say a kid didn't make it to Hotland, then the next died in Snowdin? I seriously don't get why that's used for the order. That IS the order Omega Flowey uses though, that might have inspired that order to be used. We really don't know for sure what order the kids fell.

5-Hey, SOMETHING has to make the SOULS glow the color they do! I'm saying we're adding a form of light or radiation that allows the SOUL to glow that color. What we percieve as color is actually a bunch of light waves.

6-We literally have no evidence on what Toby would do. I honestly don't get any of this, it seems like a cop-out. The entire motif was determination, so why doesn't this "WWTD" apply here? It meaning Frisk's SOUL is determination is the simplest method and leads to a coherent story! Is this Occom's Razor? What are we using? Because we can apply that to Frisk's red SOUL too! We also don't see determination itself at all. SAVE points are yellow, and determination is used in a yellow text in its corresponding True Lab Entry, but that's it. Yellow text in Undertale usually means it's something important. (Names also turn yellow if monsters are ready to spare, unless you disable it-Then you have a chance to make them pink. But sparing is a lot closer to the trait of kindness than determination, so why wouldn't it be green? Is kindness actually yellow/pink?)

7-I'm glad we agree that my trait theory shouldn't be used on monster SOULS. Your theory about white being magic actually makes a LOT of sense, though! In fact, it's my new headcanon! I had no explanation for white SOULS before. :3