Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26173722-20180625135942/@comment-32182236-20190924141107

I'm not talking about how Asriel confuses Frisk for Chara, I'm talking about the visable similarities between these two characters. Chara and Frisk both have the same height, same build, brown hair, similar haircuts, even Frisk's shirt is just Chara's colours inverted. There are difference mind you like Frisk having darker hair, and yellow skin, but they still look a lot alike despite supposedly having nothing to do with each other. Statistically speaking, the odds of any child remotely resembling Asriel's best friend falling down there in that time span are quite small. Given how widely humans can vary in age and appearence it just seems unlikely to me.

The idea was that ANY human with a red SOUL would be considered similar to Chara by Asriel, because Chara is the only human that Asriel has seen.

And given that each SOUL trait having an equal chance of occurring, that puts a red SOUL chance at 1 in 7.

Chara has one stripe, Frisk has two. Chara has cheeks, Frisk does not. The only real similarities that I would agree exist is their heights, but that could just mean they were similar ages at their respective times. Every human who fell was a child, after all.

By 1 in 7, I'm saying that's the odds that the human that fell would "resemble" Chara to Flowey, because, as I said, ANY human with a red SOUL would get confused for Chara, given that they were children and not adults.

The odds of a human eventually falling with Flowey around is much higher.

Undertale doesn't take place in the distant future. When we see the Surface in the end-credits, it's clearly modern-day. Yet, many years have passed between 201X and the time Frisk fell. This has lead me to conclude that the monster calendar does not match the human calendar, and that "201X" is actually closer to the early 1900's by our own calendar. (Around 1919 is when the odds of Chara's fall being sometime after that year reach 50%)

Think about it-Asriel took blow after blow, instead of shot after shot. It really makes no sense for it to go this way in the modern times.

Asriel had no way of knowing what brought Chara. And Asriel only brings that up as a possibility. Flowey wasn't actually there when we awaken, so we didn't awaken immediately after Flowey called for Chara. In fact, it might have been quite a while between the two.

It's very easy for someone to remember all the hits and ignore the misses:I believe this is a case of postdiction on Flowey's part.

The idea is that once Flowey did everything he wanted to do, he has no more reason to keep resetting. His only choice is to let time move on, so that's what he did. And it went on until Frisk inevitably fell.

If part of himself became Chara, then that means the part of him that became Chara is no longer a part of Flowey. So why did nothing happen to Flowey as a result of that?