Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34798955-20180310144518/@comment-44246918-20191027005608

tTheHumanAmbassador wrote: Neither side of these characterizations of Chara are correct.

Chara does not corrupt Frisk, and Frisk does not corrupt Chara. Frisk is responsible for the kills, but Chara isn't innocent.

How about we explain this in some detail, shall we?

As we all know, Chara hated humanity. They likely climbed the mountain so they wouldn't see another one. The, of course, they found Asriel, and they became like siblings. As for Asgore's illness, the laughter was likely because it was like a pun. (Buttercups->Cups of butter) This gave Chara an idea.. The idea to breach the surface world. Now, I do believe Chara was going to kill the rest of humanity.. But this was still because of their hatred. And they couldn't just say this to Asriel, else he wouldn't listen. Asriel didn't know why Chara hated humanity..

Chara was finally going to answer that question. They took their own dead body to the golden flowers, and the humans attacked. As we know, Asriel refused to fight back, and he died with Chara. This "betrayal" may in fact be part of why Chara's evil when Frisk falls. (The other part being that they're literally SOULless. But the latter can't be the full story, since even Flowey started out good.)

Frisk can either kill everyone like Chara wants, or actually do the right thing and not be evil. Chara does not force Frisk to kill at all. That's because they want a true partner... Someone who actually WANTS to help them on their quest... Someone who wants to eradicate all of the monsters. If you miss a monster in Waterfall, and attempt to proceed, Chara stops you, to tell you about the monster(s) you missed, and flat-out tells you not to proceed yet. They want the Genocide. "Missed that comedian. Failure." Frisk isn't corrupting them. After all, why would Chara trust a human? They hate humanity, remember? If they still liked monsters, they'd side with the monsters, and try to stop Frisk, instead of helping them, and believing them, and encouraging them to stay determined.

As a result, Frisk and Chara are like partners in this route-Neither side corrupting the other.

TL;DR:Neither side is truly innocent, nor the sole one responsible for the route. Both sides are responsible for it. Players, don't say you did NOTHING wrong and blame it all on Chara, and.. Don't just say because players fought Chara's innocent.

PS:Isn't it ironic how both sides use the same argument? That one corrupted the other? I believe, that your wrong on the laughter personally, even if its a pun..


 * Because, laughing, can be used to laugh off the P A I N.


 * oNE INstance is during the Genocide TORIEL fight

Heres a quote from her during that run.

"Now i see who i was protecting by keeping you here... Not you, but them... ha... ha... ha... ha.."

Thats all, i read from your hting so thats all, im kinda, pointing out or something-