Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-32182236-20171026124905

"The video shows Toby as the annoying dog, and that certainly means something."

We've already discredited the video due to the credits being incorrect. Therefore, we cannot look to the video for evidence. It means nothing, because the video isn't credible. Just like Underpants showing Papyrus as Waluigi and Sans as Ness means nothing.

Alright, we can both agree that the statement referring to Undertale requires exactly two statements to be true-Undertale being a full game, and Toby having made it. I argue the SECOND statement would be false/inaccurate, because it would only be true if he made the entire thing.

It's like the Halloween Hack all over again. The Halloween Hack can actually be played as its own game-The story is new, the maps are new, the music is new, and some sprites are even new, like one that looks oddly like Flowey(I don't connect the two canonically though, vague similarities between two completely different franchises usually are coincidences)-It could very well be considered a Mother fan-game. But, he didn't make the full game-He took Earthbound, and made a new game out of it. A full game? Yes. Did he make it all? No. Did he make some of it? Yes. Same situation as Undertale, and this game came out before Undertale.