Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20190820122909/@comment-32182236-20190825161958

1.Asriel was in the ruins when Chara fell,why the hell a small child would go so far from home if his family lived in new home??Do you know how long the distance is??It at least take a day.

At least a day? All of Undertale happens within a day, so it's at most a day!

Why would else monsters loose their fear of humans if it's not because of a human??What else would remove their fear of humans?

Asgore:Okay, the humans could be after us at any minute. We can't get any closer to the Barrier.

Toriel:But it's been more than five centuries and nobody showed up! If they wanted to kill us, they'd have done it already.

Asgore:..Nah, I think they're waiting for us to come to them so they can kill us off.

Toriel:..How would they know? Are they already down here? In that case, they're trapped, because Gaster helped us find out that you need both a human AND a monster SOUL to leave. They'd be dead by now. Really, I see no reason to fear them right now, so let's just go to New Home.

Asgore:But Tori, there are scary humans out there!

*ding*

3.Temmie Chang's fan arts shows Asriel and Chara playing in the ruins,if they lived in New home back then why would they come to play here?

You said it yourself:It's fan-art. So it's not canon. It's that simple. Besides, it's more colorful in the Ruins. Sometimes it gets boring to live in a black-and-white world.

4.The narrator is awfully familar with the tree in front of Toriel's house,if Chara did not live in the ruins,why?

Because they passed over that tree on their way there.

...They did fall into the Ruins, you know. They didn't just teleport to New Home. They're familiar with all the towns.

5.The game itself is VERY VERY vague about the reasons why monsters changed their mind about humans,why would toby refuse to reveal such a trivial detail if its not related to Chara?(who's deliberately ambiguous/mysterious in the game

The same reason why he refuses to tell us who Suzy is, or where Onionsan came from.

Please, now. "Dog of the Gaps" is not a valid argument.

6.The date of settlement AND Chara's fall match VERY well.Chara fell in the year 201X and Toriel's calendar in the ruins confirm that monsters moved on arround this year,that TOO much for it to be a simple coincidence.

Chara specifically said they arrived at the end of 201X, and Toriel's calendar confirms they moved at the beginning of 201X.

And the trip to New Home is only a few hours of a walk. The hard part is finding a way around that lava chasm.

Asgore:It seems we have gone as far as we can. How do you propose that we proceed?

Gammys:W-Well, we can just build a bridge like we did to get here in H-Hotland in the first place..

Gaster:How about we fill it up with the CORE? And spend months on it! We can all hang out in Hotland until then!

Asgore:..I'm going with Gaster's idea.

..Though considering that this alternate bridge is never taken by the monsters trapped in the MTT hotel, it does seem likely that Asgore actually did take Gaster's method. ...I still haven't figured out why he would do something like this, though. Is he just really bad at planning? No wonder Toriel left him in Deltarune.

Still, though. Where was Chara in all of this?

7.Toriel's house has an additional room "under renovations",why would Toriel has an additional room "under renovations"?its possible (and likely because Toriel has no other reason to have another room)that it belonged to Chara.

It belonged to Asgore. I thought everyone already knew that. Asgore's castle has the room equivelant to Toriel's room as "under renovations", and Home's renovation room can actually be entered in New Home, and it's Asgore's room.

With the two divorced, the other person's room no longer belongs to that other person. So now it's "under renovations..."

8."The date i came here"when you check the calendar from the end of 201X in New home during genocide run could simply mean that Chara came in NEW HOME at this date,not in the underground.

See my response to #6.

9.The detail that basicaly confirm that Chara indeed lived in the ruins is the golden flower drawing.Toriel's house has an EXTREMELY similar drawing of golden flower to the one that Chara made in New home,plus they are both in the same exact place.That's just TOO much for it to be a simple coincidence.

...You do know that there are echo flowers, right? That look basically the same as golden flowers when we remove color?

And it could have been taken from New Home back to Home by Toriel, leaving the other one for Asgore. In a divorce, each party usually gets half.