Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-31536324-20180705060248

"MysteriousMalice has sort of the right idea with this-But that involves mixing routes, when we don't HAVE to do the Genocide Route-Therefore, it's flawed. But, let's try to fix this, by defining determination, and seeing how you might need the other traits to even HAVE determination."

I was just using both routes as a point of reference, and to prove that DT in Undertale utilizes both the in-game definitions and the real world definitions. Much like how we assume the others do so as well. All the other traits involve having some level of resolve, resolution, Determination. If DT is a mix of all other traits, as Ball Game implies, then DT involves having some level, or an equal amount, of each trait.

Just because we don't have to do Genocide, doesn't mean it can't be used to prove any points.

Determination in Undertale utilizing JUST its in-game definitions in the instances of both the Genocide Run, and God of Hyperdeath fight, doesn't make much sense without the real world definition juxtaposed with them.

Also, since the 1st red flag implies that the red trait is a combination of all other traits, doesn't that mean that trait mixing IS a thing?