Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31536324-20190117214835/@comment-33883848-20190329175244

MysteriousMalice wrote: MagomaevaAmina wrote: Honestly its easier to say that the hud is canon just because the player is and so they need a hud to interact with the world(even the keyboard is canon as its mentonned in the game so we ARE playing a game and Toby said all game mecanisms are supposed to make one with narrative,so idk why the options and keyboard's buttons(that are even mentioned by the froggits ,the narrator,alphys) wouldn't be part of the narrative).We are interacting with Undertale world through a game (the games code might be the world code coded in the game that allow to control the world by changing the code,that is even more likely if we consider Sans's hacker ending message canon as he basically says that you can change their world by editing the code)while there's no hud on the surface,so the player cant interact with the world here.That doesn't make Undertale world simulated,doenst assume lot of things like evolution and blabla ,its the simplest explanation aka Occam razor

Now THIS is Occams Razor.

Well its occams razor because this is the only theory that has some games arguments as the fact that characters mention the keybord,sans message in the hacker ending about how we can add endings by editing the games code,the fact that our computers date influence undertale worlds date(aka so sorry fight and river person lines),the hint of the existence of the player as frisk can disobey us,Flowey dialogue about the "suckers"watching them,alphys belief in the player,Sans and Frisk constantly facing the 4 wall,the fact that that all dialogues are actually real lines as confirmed by the narrator"reading this isnt the best waste of your time",hard mode ending and Anoying dog saying "its the end of the mode"as if he was making reference to patches,the way the game change if you name your character Frisk(aka hard mode),the narration(aka a REAL CHARActer) that always describe whats happening when theres no visual info as if they wanted to help the player to figure out what going on, the mysterious room that implies that the Undertale game exist etc...And the fact that all games mechanisms are supposed to make sence with the narrative,so all buttons options likely exist in the story itself.

This theory has many many evidences and doesnt has so much assumptions,this is why i believe this is occam's razor,the simplest theory as it match so far with what the game shows.... and because the hud in all games is something that allows the player to control the protagonist and make choices.The presence of a hud doesnt make sence unless we as player exist as otherwise Frisk could make all those choices without hud as they are an "in universe"character that doenst need options to make choices as all characters,only we as a player need them to make choices as we arent part of their world and need something to make choices in Undertale's universe. This is why i assume that Undertale's world is working like a game in the underground because we the player are interacting with the Underground through a game.When Frisk&cie joins the surface,then this connection with the player is broken unless we load the save file by opening up the game(as we cant control Frisk on the surface,they live their own life without our input).The game's code as indicated by Sans(if we consider this dialogue as canon and i do well because all other stuff that's only present by getting acces to the code still canon as Gaster's entry17),is here to allow to modify the world or the underground by our will as by adding new endings to the game(as in the case of Hard mode that cant be played because it's not coded in the game as indicated by anoying dog).And i believe its a "world"because it still exist when we cant play anymore as during the true end where we see characters living their happy life without us .In othee words i believe in Glitchtale theory,that Undertale ia acting like a game.

There's no other way to explain all the weird that happens in the game unless we dismiss everything as "not canon".At least i have strong reasons to believe that Undertale world is acting like a game....