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~AncientAmber~ wrote: Aidanthehedgehogisawesome wrote:

~AncientAmber~ wrote:

Aidanthehedgehogisawesome wrote: ~AncientAmber~ wrote: I'm not too sure of this.

When you mention that Flowey imitates Chara's face, do you mean that black, smiley one he makes as he says, "I'll show them all the real meaning of this world"? While it does resemble Chara's, I doubt it really is theirs as the only thing that really matches is the eyes. Plus, that sort of smiley face is common in games with this sort of graphics, and Flowey is supposed to look creepy.

The red thorns don't really mean anything. If we were to judge that every red thing in the game means it is associated to Chara... well, you get my point.

Now, this is just belief, so don't take it as a full fact just yet. Chara is supposedly the narrator (according to a very good and detailed theory I read a while ago), and that means they are within you, but not possesing you unless you're on a Genocide, so they can't be within Flowey at that point. Besides, Flowey is basically a normal flower possessed by Asriel. I don't think you can possess something that has been already possessed (wow, now that word seems weird). True, but, I'm not associtiang everything red with Chara. The thing is, in real life, the thorns should be green. Also, I know Flowey is supposed to look creepy, it's just that here's Chara's face: Chara (in infobox) It's the only face like that in the game.

Yes, the eyes don't match too well, but, they look like Chara's wide-eyes.

And with the Narrator thing, Chara could be speaking from Flowey. Flowey tells you to "call for help", and then, Chara narrates "But nobody came". Many people think the player taught Chara how to kill in the genocide route, so when Flowey gets so much power by destroying the timeline, wouldn't a small, impressionable child like Chara want that power too? Her best friend just became GOD. Wouldn't you like in on that?

Onto your last concern, something possessed can be possessed. An empty shell can be up for the taking, as Flowey is an empty shell. Hm. Seems fair enough for now. But how can Chara talk to you from Flowey? I know he follows you throughout the game, but sometimes he does not. Besides, the narration does not only tell what you're doing - it is like a voice in your mind that knows how you are feeling, what you are feeling, and what you think. How could either Chara or Flowey know your inner emotions? Well, in the battle, it only describes what you're doing in battle, at least until the end of the said battle. As far as I remember, it never states your feelings. It doesn't always state your feelings in battles (even though, sometimes, it states the monster you're fighting's feelings). Yours are told throughout the game, as you interact and make choices. For example, in the Ruins, when you keep taking candy, there's a certain point where the narration will tell that you "feel like the scum of the Earth", or something along those lines. I know about that you "Scum of the Earth" (im sorry) but, I'm only focusing on the battle. She does narrate in the battle, but not your emotions. She might be narrating the emotions of the Souls, though, but I don't remember.