Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-35615238-20190608024117/@comment-44872807-20200116150911

I agree about some points, but not all.

1. Yeah, sans is kind of a wimp and would probably lose against any other character in the game, definitely any non Undertale character, unless they're some evil overlord and Karma just depletes their health in one hit. I'll give him credit for being the only character who can dodge though, so he'd be able to put up at least a bit of a fight.

2-3. Nah. He's definitely not the most important character, but you could cut most of the others too with the story still working minus Alphys, Flowey and Asgore. At least he explains exp and lv to you. Arguably Toby Fox could've had another character do that. I don't think Asgore as a final boss would have been stronger since Flowey is easier than Sans and he has a way higher level than Asgore while you have a lower one in neutral/pacifist. I don't think he has much less character development than the others either except for Flowey/Asriel and Asgore, who go from being killers to, you know, not being killers. Alphys gets a little self confidence, Papyrus and Undyne don't really change at all. No offence to those two, they're my favorite characters and Papyrus offering you a hug knowing you're probably gonna kill him still depresses me. Sans gives up his nihilistic attitude both in the neutral pacifist run, where it's implied he helps working on getting the monsters out again which he had previously believed to be pointless, and in genocide where he tries to stop you from erasing the world. Either way he gets off his lazy ass, a bit late, but better than never. And about him threatening you, yeah, he's being a dick there, but he's still the only main character who doesn't attack you when you're innocent. Even Alphys is cool with you getting killed by lasers so she can feel important. Still doesn't come close to Papyrus who's the only one who will never kill you no matter what you do, simply because he's such a kind person.

4. Agree 100%. I like even mad dummy's theme better, megalovania is mediocre. Generally I feel like everything about the sans fight is made out to be way more epic than it actually is.

5. Couldn't agree more.

I think people are blowing this whole "mystery" behind sans way out of proportion, making their theories out to be canon so he'll be more interesting while ignoring the many interesting stories of other characters that actually are canon. One thing that I did enjoy with sans in genocide, much like with flowey sometimes, is that it felt like he wasn't talking to the character of Frisk anymore but to you, the player. He even acknowledges you're not evil, just curious, and while the battle against Undyne felt like the epic showdown between good and evil, the Sans battle felt more like a battle of wills.

All in all I think sans is neither as fascinating nor as boring as opposite sides make him out to be, for me he would range somewhere in the middle if I had to make a list of all the characters. He's the most overrated one though, sadly you're right about that and about how it hurt the fandom