Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-3087260-20170527130902/@comment-33883848-20190328135718

Tetrawyvern wrote: So, I was dealing with this theory for a long time. There were pieces of evidence in there that made sense, such as the fact that only someone with experience in the UNDERGROUND could've known so much about the items and monsters we encounter. And as for in the Ruins when we meet Froggits who only speak in croaks, who is it who's translating for us? It sure isn't Frisk; they didn't know what it meant at the time. And it isn't us, the players. So who is it? Chara.

It actually fits very nicely with the story. When Toriel took Chara's body and buried it in the Ruins, golden flowers grew on the grave from the seeds stuck to their dead body. So, when you fall, your determination wakes Chara's spirit up from death. Not enough for them to come back to life, but enough for them to 'talk' to you.

I was doubtful of this for a long time. That's when I took another look at the mirror narration. Throughout all the other routes, Frisk is called 'you' by the mirror dialogue. "It's you!" "Despite everything, it's still you." "Still just you, Frisk." Etcetera. But in the Genocide Route, when you are considered to be Chara for most purposes, the mirror gives you the dialogue: "It's me, Chara."

Catch that? ''Me? ''It's basically a direct confirmation of the narrator Chara theory. If it wasn't Chara who was the narrator, it would've said something more like "It's you, Chara."

And even if you don't believe of that, think of it as an equation. If A=B and B=C, A=C. In Genocide, you are acting as Chara, and you are the narrator. So again, direct confirmation that Chara = the narrator.

But about the whole "why is Chara helping a human thing"? The narraChara theory fits very nicely in with the pacifist Chara theory as well. The only humans Chara ever encountered were abusive and greedy, but in the Pacifist route, we are actually trying to help their friends the monsters. Even in a Neutral we aren't devoting ourself to murdering every monster we can as the humans Chara knew would, so they decide maybe this is something they should stick around to watch. And they do - discussing childishly everything we see, and even giving us their memories of Asgore telling them to stay determined on their deathbed.

As for Genocide? Note how Chara's name is on the stats menu, indicating that Chara is actually gaining some of the LOVE we earn from killing monsters. In Genocide, we devote ourselves to killing every monster and gaining as much LOVE possible, meaning that Chara is getting a lot of LOVE as well.

In the Judgement Hall, Sans talks about how gaining LOVE numbs you to the ideas of pain and death, which explains why Chara is staying with you despite you murdering all their friends and family. They're getting so much LOVE that they are almost numb to the pain and suffering you're causing.

Chara even talks about how they are the feeling you get in Genocide when your LOVE increases. Again, direct confirmation! This also explains why Chara says things like "Not worth talking to", "Forgettable", and "Looks like free EXP" about the monsters they were willing to die for to save. (By the way, look up 'symptoms of eating buttercups'. Trust me, Chara did NOT have fun with that.)

I'm making a thread about the pacifist Chara theory, so be patient.

clearly we arent playing as chara in the geno run,they say that the player and themslef eradicated the ennemi together,refer to the player as a "Partner".I think they say "its me chara"when you check the mirror because they no longer hide they are Inside of frisks body,sharing the same body