Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-30390828-20161120192150/@comment-13682699-20161121005154

BobTheMob wrote: Fastrthnwind wrote: Asgore is a good person who was pushed to do some extremely bad things as a result of making a stupid but understandable mistake at his weakest moment during impossibly tragic circumstances. The exact same thing could be said for Toriel. Just put her name instead of Asgore's

I don't understand: why do you say such of Toriel? (I mean that in complete sincerity; not trying to be sarcastic.)

As for my response: Asgore is, deep down, on the side of Good. He clearly expresses that he doesn't want to kill Frisk, giving the child several chances to back out before their battle. And he was attempting to free his people.

The problem was, he had been driven mad by the deaths of two of the people he loved the most: his own son, and Chara. That madness seemed to me to blind him to the fact that what he was doing was wrong, and attempting to find another way of lifting the barrier instead of killing.

I wouldn't say that puts him completely in the clear by any means, but I see it as preventing him from being completely evil either. Toriel made similar mistakes like Asgore did and is burdened with the same sins.

She is a kind and caring person, just like Asgore is, but she did some pretty messed up stuff too despite her intentions (leaving her husband and the kingdom at their weakest moment to protect any other humans who fall). In the end she became burdened with the same sins as Asgore because she didn't do anything to stop him(and she is CLEARLY capable of doing such) nor protect any of the humans from being killed. She simply let them leave while she stayed behind in the ruins, but she thought that they didn't deserve to be trapped with her.

Similarly, Asgore could have taken back his word about the war with humans and tried to ease the pain of the kingdom, but it would have made them lose all hope and they would have died of despair.

They were both cowards for having done nothing to help their situation, but they were doing the best they could at the time to cope with everything that had happened. After all they have been through, its honestly quite understandable why they did what they did.