Talk:Chara/@comment-33170295-20200211015654/@comment-44812599-20200212122935

I just want people to speak about what they believe with the understanding that people disagree with them on a fundamental level.

many people stated things as objectively right or wrong without stating their basis of morality which makes it impossible for me (a utilitarian moral relativist) to argue (due to not being able to point out if / how they are contradicting that basis), which is why I keep pointing out that people will disagree with their basis for morality, bringing moral philosophy into the discussion.

I will continue to believe morality is subjective until someone proves there is an objective morality.

"We're not explicitly given a system of moral laws canon to Undertale's world. We're supposed to figure them out, just as we're supposed to figure out the moral laws of THIS world".

I don’t think we're supposed to do either. It may be a good thing to do, but I find no reason to suggest we have any inherent purposes at all.

"And if moral relativism is true, well, we just can't get any further. We're set to fail" unless we agree on at least some moral principles. rot the person making the argument states thiers and our discussion continues by assuming we share siad principles.

tl;dr:to discuss charas morality, we must also discuss morality. please state the moral principles you're using when you say chara was a good/bad person or did something good/bad. unless your just pointing out something they did/didnt do leaving it to the reader to decide if it's right or wrong.