Talk:Player/@comment-27923402-20160306005654/@comment-28029625-20160427223837

I agree so much. The Player is NOT in the game.

Sure, the game says words like "you" and refers to someone in the second person. That person is Frisk. When you click on the mirror it says "despite everything, it's still you". The Player isn't the one in the mirror. Frisk is.

Now that brings along the first person narration: who is it? Well, if you agree with the Narrator!Chara theory, then it's Chara. It makes sense. "I unlocked the chain" "I'm outta here". First person.

The only time this doesn't hold true is after the True Pacifist. Chara is being referred to when Flowey says "you", because Frisk isn't there. Frisk is on the surface. But Chara is still down there.

The only time that the fourth wall could be referenced is when during the game show that Alphys talks about having a crush on someone watching her that's from another universe.

(By the way, the whole Toby Fox "the fallen child should be your name" thing doesn't prove that Chara is directly addressing the player. That could just be so you know the weight of the actions when people use the fallen child's name when referring to killing.)

Honestly, I think Chara is referring to Frisk when they say "you", just as the rest of the game. As we know, Frisk hasn't been killed. So where would they be? Frisk is who Chara is talking to. Frisk's determination. Frisk's LOVE. Frisk's EXP. All of these are Frisk's. Saying otherwise is saying that Frisk is an empty puppet, which I disagree with and think is messed up on so many levels.

It's almost like you are the one watching the timeline play out from another universe (if u believe in multiverse etc). Frisk has already done all of these things, you aren't making them do anything. You are just watching it unfold. Because in the multiverse theory, all things are possible. And some say that what can happen will happen.

(im gonna leave now, don't wanna get to existential-y)