Talk:Chara/@comment-44680793-20191218004514/@comment-32182236-20191229131915

Killing Sans doesn't make the kill count go up. You were the one fighting Sans, and I really do think the animations of Chara going through the fight break canon, but Chara made that final slash at the very end.

A more accurate portrayal would show Chara (perhaps as a ghost?) cheering Frisk on during the fight, gaining more physical as the fight goes on, and at the very end, them taking the last swipe on their own. (With Frisk still there.)

..You're right.. Flowey DOES kill Asgore. Chara slashes Asgore, and knocks him to 0HP, but Flowey's the one that finishes the job.

As for Flowey? While Frisk has acted on their own before, you don't gain EXP for killing Flowey, when you logically should. This only makes sense if you didn't kill Flowey.

As for Chara's death? Okay, let's get into that.

I do not deny that Chara wanted the monsters freed. But I also claim that Chara wished to destroy humanity.

Chara could have simply went around, gathered six SOULs, and broken the barrier. This was their plan, after all. The wish to see the flowers does serve as a nice "excuse" for Asriel to go to the Surface. But once they actually get there.. Chara has no reason to keep holding the body. They should have dropped it right there and then. But instead, they took the body to the very CENTER of the village (aren't there other golden flowers in the world?), where a large portion of the village could SEE them.

This only makes sense if they WANTED the villagers to attack. Which in of itself only makes sense if Chara wanted a reason to kill them without Asriel resisting.