Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-32182236-20180704120859

"I know that others characters do use red or yellow text but Charattor (in pacifist and neutral) only use red text during the ball game, where colors are associated with traits(also I would say that the flag text is provided by the narrator because the narrator always says outloud when something is written and theres not any visible writing on the flags) Which is a big coincidence."

Fact is, they do use red text in Genocide. And therefore, this means NOTHING.

"And doing the pacifist run doesn't give Frisk kindness soul because as I suggested Frisk used all the traits to have their personality,they have a personality trait that mix all of the traits, which means that Frisk keep their neutral red soul because its can't be reduced to a single trait."

OH, so trait mixing leads to a red SOUL.

"Also I don't talked about the true recept in the pacifist end but of the fact that Frisk can save and load any save file by their will even so the barrier is destroyed in the pacifist run(check it to be sure)"

True, you can do that.

"Which at least proove that the barrier isn't an obstacle."

Which means one of two things:

1-It's something about the Underground ITSELF, not the Barrier, that makes S/L/R a thing.

2-After the Barrier was destroyed, the power remained, and started to radiate outwards. We can still do it, because the nearest place with humans is quite far away, as shown by the view we get at the ending.

"And the fact that Frisk can load their save file in the surface in the neutral end, proove that it work on the surface"

Frisk never made it to the Surface. You need a human SOUL and a monster SOUL. Frisk had no monster SOUL. That's we were able to hear Sans' call, when NOTHING is supposed to leave the barrier except for beings with a powerful SOUL. (Fun fact, this is why the Barrier appears as pure white. Not even light can cross the Barrier.)

"by the way I analysed something, Flowey crossed the barrier too, perhaps because he had the souls back then"

NOBODY crossed the Barrier. But yes, he would have the chance to.

"The reason why Frisk overcomes Flowey's determination, i feel like it because of the fusion beetwen Chara and Frisk's determination.Indeed Chara says that they were brought back of Frisk's determination but they never said they doesn't have one."

They actually DO say that.

"My 'determination'. My 'human SOUL'. They are not mine, but YOURS."

They're living off of OUR determination to this day. Wow, no wonder they want to keep us alive no matter what we do! If we die, THEY die!

"In fact determination is a feeling, a feeling to live on, which means that as long as a being have a will to live, they would have this power."

True, but there has to be more to it than that. There's a physical aspect as well, as proven by Alphys' lab experiments. Monsters can't hold determination, because they lack enough physicsal matter. Chara's an intangible ghost that's even invisible. They have ZERO physical matter. So they can't hold ANY determination.

"In fact even Flowey has his own determination as his own determination is something that brought him to life when he commited suicide and Chara too since Frisk revive right after they hear Asgore telling to Chara to stay determined, which heavily implies that Chara use their own determination to revive Frisk."

That's Chara relaying Asgore's message from Tape 5 to Frisk, so that Frisk would stay determined.

"Though i dont think they can be separated from Frisk, because even Flowey cant be separated from something that brough him back to life, his vessel full of determination."

You can't be separated from your vessel anyway. Flowey is Asriel's body now. That's a bad example.