Talk:Chara/@comment-36073590-20180704133156/@comment-28517148-20180722100905

@MagomaevaAmina Undyne's motive to free her people and get revenge upon humanity wasnt created by the fans but by the game... "Fan service - material in a work of fiction or in a fictional series which is intentionally added to please the audience." That is what I wanted to say, but whatever. And a question :why are you here...? To talk with people. And a thesis based on implications is a theory and not speculation... No, it is still speculation, opinion even if implication is being or has to be additionally interpreted. Only facts matter and implications are not facts. The game has it clear logic... With exception where it is lacking of logic. If I ignored something that means it was speculation. I stand by my words. That isnt an excuse to ignore their own words about the plan It is still good argument to not interprete their words in any way and to not use it as excuse for their deeds. Exactly!which mean that it can't be used as the most important evidence regards Chara's motives behind the plan Exactly.

And this game is also complicated for Rafip too as they doenst even understand Chara's dialogue after 3 years. It is perforated, not complicated: contradictions, lack of logic, ambiguity. It is enough to not be sure about many things. This game doesn't give ground for accurately proving/disproving anything. Rivers of opinions mixed with beliefs flowing through this Wiki are best evidence for that.

@TheHumanAmbassador

Sure, they may have had some motivations to do what they did at first..(https://undertale.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:135687) First few acapites contain tons of unsubstantiated speculations, opinions and even beliefs preventing me from reading the rest. Could you fix that (your text not me)? Best part no one in that thread sees this. Are they really that indiscriminate?