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Prinzessin Alice wrote: Xenons wrote: Prinzessin Alice wrote: That was one long text to read...and i think i know what you mean...

BUT I could never forgive the one who killed Sans!

I liked Sans!

But noooooooo, there is Chara with that cute little sharp thing.

And then he/she/it killed everyone...

Call me picky here, but i won`t like a person who did all these things because she is dead and the Chara we know is not the Chara, the Undertale Chara-cters know! (Sorry, I had to do this.)

Even when she is not that evil...I havend heard a thing she ever said...Ok, probably the recordings...but nothing that shows her personality.

I could stop hate her as much as i do now...but i don`t know enoght about her to say if i could like her or not. But that's exactly what I was talking about. It's not Chara killing Sans and the others, but the player themselves. Chara has no control on you, since that's why you she wants your soul at the end of Genocide. She needs it in order to gain the control.

Now you could argue that she kills the rest of the monsters after you kill Flowey, and everyone at the end of Soulless Pacifist, but be honest with yourself. Do you honestly believe you deserve a good ending after slaughtering the entire Underground yourself AND guiding Chara into this ("With your guidance. I realized the purpose of my reincarnation.") ? Besides, 90% of Geno players would have killed the remaining monsters too, if they were given the possibility, so Chara basically ends everything faster.

Year...but we don`t blame Videogame-maker for evil Chara-cters!

So it would be weird to blame the player.

That poor player just wantend to do the Geno-run, so he have all the fun you can have with the game...I don`t think that anyone just do the Genocide route because he likes killing...

But Chara...or Charas Ghoust or whatever that thing is!

It just kills for fun...like you said...just like Flowey!

Is aaaaaanyone here who says Flowey is there favorite Character?

anyone?

Even when there is someone who likes this creepy, evil Flower...

Chara might be a good child...maby even a real angle!

But we don`t know that...and as long as we don`t know that...I can`t see a reson for her to be my favorite Character...

Like i said: I don`t want to say that anyone have a wrong opinion...cuz there no wrog opinion in this case... Don't get the wrong idea. I'm not trying to convince you to like her, but since you asked me why she's my favorite, I tried my best to explain why I see things this way.

On normal situations, yes, it would be anormal for the characters to talk to the player (aka break the 4th wall), but considering that Undertale has broken it on several occasions, it's not really out of place. There are different interpretations here though. Some think Chara talks to the player, while others think she talks to Frisk, but even if it's the latter, Frisk is your in-game avatar, so what Chara says still applies to you.

So killing people in order to be a completionist is better than killing them because you like the act of killing itself? If you feel so bad about killing them, you can stop any time. I'll be honest, I played Genocide till I killed Sans, but thinking about how bad the Geno ending is, I couldn't finish it. I reseted right afterwards and went for another Pacifist.

Again, Chara becomes a psycho only at the very end of Geno, because of your actions. There is plenty of evidence that suggests she wasn't like that while alive.

As a matter of fact, Flowey is my 3rd favorite character, after Chara and Asgore.

Chara being a real "angle", heh? No wonder she got to such a bad DEGREE at the end of Genocide.