Talk:Player/@comment-25876173-20151103041056

My working theory is that the player is Frisk and Chara inside Frisk's body. My proof is thus:

1) There's already a canon parallel in Chara taking partial control of Asriel's body upon death.  While Asriel allowed Chara to take them up to the surface to see the flowers one more time, Asriel refused to let Chara attack any humans and instead peacefully returned to the Underground, showing that while Chara can influence those that they possess, it is not absolute.

2) The game's different routes reflect upon this as well.  If you complete the True Pacisist Route, Frisk absolutely denies Chara from having any influence over them, instead living out as Frisk alone with Chara barely being a devil-on-the-shoulder seen through having the capacity to kill.  If you complete the Genocide Route, Chara literally states that you (Frisk) never had any control over these decisions, which implies total dominance over Frisk's body and soul throughout the game.  This is why looking into a mirror grants "It's me, Chara" on the Genocide Run.

3) This also explains Sans' dialogue in the last corridor.  Why does Sans take note of your behavior?  He knows this truth and wants to make sure that Chara is not under complete control of Frisk.  If he does detect this, he does everything in his power to kill/stall you, Chara, in your genocial efforts.

4) Why were there eight humans but only six souls at the end of every playthrough?  This is because Chara (Soul 1) and Frisk (Soul 8) are both in possession of the same body.  Toriel took Chara's body from Asgore and buried them beneath the flower bed that you start the game upon, which would explain why Asgore cannot use the first human's soul to complete the set of seven (it's no longer in his possession).  Where did it go?  It's inside of you, Frisk.

5) Where did Chara's soul go between their death and your arrival?  The ground beneath your feet at the beginning.  Chara states in the Genocide Route that they were dead until your determination brought them back from the abyss, which is when Chara takes co-possession of your body and the game begins.  This is why Flowey keeps referring to the player as Chara; Flowey isn't incorrect, you just don't realize that you're in possession of Chara's soul as well as your own.

I really hope somebody can prove me wrong on this one, I would love to speculate more upon this game.