Talk:Asgore Dreemurr/@comment-75.111.136.8-20151012043633

Continuing what another guy said below, I think Toriel was way too rash in her harshness towards Asgore at the end.

Yes, he only needed one human soul to pass through the barrier and into the human world, but that would also mean he still needs to hunt 6 more humans to break the barrier.

Now think about that. He has to fight and kill six humans. Nevermind the obvious fact that he doesn't want to kill anyone (it's likely NONE of the other 6 humans that were killed were not killed by Asgore himself), humans are also frighteningly powerful.

If you read some of the books in the library at Snowdin, it elaborates that humans make up for their lack of magical abilities with sheer physical strength that is frighteningly powerful when used against monsters (which would make Undyne a bit of an oddball as she can suplex giant boulders, but that's the power of being absolutely heroic and extreme!). This explains why in a Genocide run, Frisk can easily slaughter a wide majority of the game's encounters with a single blow. She is not un-naturally strong, that is just natural human strength far surpassing that of monsters (wait... Undyne can suplex a boulder but Frisk can down her in a single blow? wut).

So if Asgore tried to go through with the plan that Toriel suggested was clearly the best choice, he would be alone in the human world with only one soul to power him, against hundreds and millions of humans with powerful swords and armor just as they had in the old war.

... what's that? You say civilization is modernized now? We're no longer a bunch of knights and paladins?

Asgore doesn't know that. And doesn't that just make it WORSE? We have GUNS now! But let's ignore the guns, because, again, Asgore only knows humans from what he personally saw and whatever trash falls down, meaning a wide majority of monsters believe that our anime is actually factual coverage of our history (somehow). And Anime kinda makes us look like gods with no peer, guys.

Asgore absolutely had the only right idea. Wait patiently for a totally hapless human to come shambling about in the monster world where the monsters have the home-turf advantage. Why venture out into the wild unknown only to get slaughtered and end all hope the Monsters have of ever getting free?