Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20190617222636/@comment-26006155-20190718223146

The Crystals-In-The-Darkness bit is interesting. You can get there by searcing for "I move on" in this document: https://lparchive.org/Undertale/Update%2017/

"Without candles or magic to guide them Home, the monsters used crystals to navigate."

And then suddenly the area is lit when Undyne appears after you read the "Behind You" on the echo flower.

Ok, the line about the monsters not having magic does jar a bit. Aren't they supposed to be the only ones that do?

... so not all monsters have magic?...

Let's see, who in Undertale has magic: Toriel, Asgore, Undyne, Mad Jack, Susie, Asriel/Ralsei...

I need to think about this a bit more.

If my theory that the Boss Monsters are decended from Kanashi is correct, as well as Susie being a monster-human hybrid.. then Mad Jack would actually be the only one on that list that didn't have some distant human ancestry... that we know of.

Humans mages that use magic, and monsters that can't use magic? Interesting.

Back to the "Without candles or magic to guide them Home, the monsters used crystals to navigate" part.

It does sound like this glyph refers to the original trip the monsters took to The Ruins/Home. Although even after New Home was established, they're still using these crystals to light this dark segment.

We're assuming that all the WaterFall Glyphs were written at the same time, but I don't think that's a safe assumption to make.

The same glyphs that claim "there are no entrances or exists to this cursed place" also talk about the monsters fleeing a potential human threat.. that should be impossible if the humans have no way in.

The Waterfall Statue shows this Underground has a history that stretches even before The War of Humans And Monsters. There's history down here that not even Asgore's Kingdom fully understands.

We just dated that Chara must have returned after New Home was built, so her arrival happened after Gaster. And that Gaster arrived at a time when Toriel already had a camcorner.

You're right in that the monsters and their misspelled Librarby don't seem awestrikingly bright if left to their own devices. Which is why reverse-engineering human tech was so important to them.

So Chara definitely arrived in the modern era. An era that wasn't too far away.