Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-33883848-20180727112147

"Consciousness is in ESSENCE, not SOULs. That's why Asriel is Flowey"

Chara's consciousness joined their soul when Asriel absorbed their soul, which mean consciousness is in souls. Perhaps an essence is a rest of a soul, that why consciousness can remain in it

"But, it should be a combination of the two in control, as Chasriel demonstrated. Why isn't it?"

Charisk's case is really special, upon inspection we can clearly notice that for the two characters Frisk is the one in control but in reality the player control both of them in the same time

"And then gives them care and safety against those monsters at HOME, and shows how easy it is to resolve a conflict."

That doesn't change the fact monsters wanted to fight them, which could kill them, so as they feared death they became so determined. Plus I don't think the kids knew how peacefully talk with the monsters, Frisk can because Chara provide options(indicated by the fact that they provide [save] option in the last battle). Plus noone of the children wanted to stay with Toriel, so they have excuse to be so determined

"Yes, you use what corresponds to yourself. You be yourself. Which matches what we determined about the red trait-You saying red means you're original, not in the other six, and me saying a combination of the six, which would include integrity."

And..? Yes Frisk has integrity but their soul doesn't become integrity trait but they also has others traits but their soul doesn't become one of those traits. Frisk soul still red likely because their soul is a mix of two or more traits. And i don't said red is being original i said that its more likely red is a lack of trait(which is also implied by Frisk's neutral personality) and then can have a trait or a mix of traits or a trait out of the 6.If the red hosts develop a personality out of the 6 then they keep their red soul. That doesnt mean a red soul host cant have a personality similar to others red soul hosts. Basically for me red soul is the one everyone is born with

"...No, it wouldn't replace the first flag unless it WAS needed. There had to a REASON, and that reason being that it tells the red trait works."

Like a personality's development?

"Yes. But the first flag did not tell us that piece of info. The second flag does, and that tells us this is an aspect of the red trait."

Actually being yourself isn't specific to red is also correspond to the other traits as since their hosts always use the tactics that correspond to their soul to reach their goal, they "continue to be themselves"(the soul is the "culumination of one being"). So I don't think its red soul trait, plus I know why only red would have two separated and different functions while others traits dont. plus the ball game doesn't say "by being yourself regardless everything you reach your victory "but literally that Frisk continue to be themself in the case this is a tactic to win that correspond to red they would say so. Plus Frisk used the same tactics to win than for the first flag, so its doesn't seem like they changed any tactics(after all the game is about what tactics each trait use to win and what colour correspond to a trait)

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