Talk:Asriel Dreemurr/In Battle/@comment-34745485-20180221191458/@comment-32182236-20180222021434

The exact quote is “But, having never SAVEd before, you now lack the power to do so”. Why is this? Well, there’s several things we have to consider

1-Determination can fluctuate. After all, Frisk can LOAD by closing the game during the HYPERDEATH fight, but this is an illegal move in the Photoshop/Omega fight, despite having the same number of human SOULs, and NO monster SOULs at all. Frisk’s determination fluctuated from lower during Omega’s fight, to higher during the hyperdeath fight.

2-Every time you save, you’re “filled with determination”.

3-Having never saved before, you have less determination than you would have you actually used it before. If only you had it to fall back on.. But you were too STUPID to use it! So, yeah.

4-SAVE and LOAD has to do with whoever has the most determination. The act of SAVing and LOADing is, therefore, a battle against the next most determined. We’re loading a file of Flowey, as we never saved before, making Flowey’s the latest valid. Therefore, we battle against Hypderdeath’s determination, but fail to overwrite the SAVE. This likely means Frisk is nearly tied in determination, as they can still LOAD, in this manner.. though in this case, it’d be a RESET. Able to LOAD your own SAVEs, but not overwrite the SAVEs of someone else. Yeah, Frisk is tied in determination here. It’s harder to overwrite someone else’s save than your own, and the lack of being filled with determination from SAVing before doesn’t exactly help either.