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2.2 + 4.8) But the dog IS Toby. Toby made many remarks on this on his Twitter. "Now, it's time for me to return to being just a regular, everyday dog...". Not to mention the award he received once. Instead of coming himself, they played an animation of the dog absorbing the award. And to answer your other statement, the text on the box looks like the Undertale logo, and is called a "whole" game when you inspect it (so it wasn't a bonus chapter either). How many whole games did Toby make? So yeah, if that's a nonsense, then the no humans thing should be a nonsense too. And the thing about the dog being the author of all bad content on the internet was just a joke anyways. Of course there isn't a single person who does that. But still, it is highly implied that the dog programmed Undertale.

3) Does it change anything that they call the monsterkind their enemy? If you actually did read the theories you yourself linked to, you WOULD realize that Chara's intentions were pretty much fueled by the rage, and the reason they commited such act was because it was in a sense an act of mercy. It doesn't matter what they call them, they're all dead anyways.

3.3) And I said that. I said that Frisk's LV is also Chara's LV. Point closed.

3.5) Not really. A single child cannot possibly erase the entire universe. Impossible. I don't know what happened there, but the world probably looks the same as we left it, and Chara simply just denied our access to it.

3.6) You tried to laugh, and Chara laughed, since that option was there. Who else would give you that option to be mean to such miserable creature other than Chara? Of course, Chara then corrects their narration after they see that Frisk didn't laugh. We laughed, we pressed the button, so it wasn't us who refused. Upon the next try, Chara's narration is correct. "But it's not funny" is targeted at us this time. And Chara hates Snowdrake's family exclusively for some reason. For some reason, you do have the option to be mean to Snowdrake and his mother. It is a mysery why would Chara hate them so much, but it's obviously more personal. Chara probably "hates" the monsterkind only on the genocide run, so it wouldn't make sense to say that this hate is because of that, since you can get to the true lab only on a pacifist playthrough. Obviously, Chara has some sort of a personal clash with them.

3.7) Yeah, but Flowey's body isn't incorporeal. Besides, Flowey does NOT know about the narrator. Chara IS the narrator, so if he thinks he's speaking to them, then how CAN he know that there's someone else. Did Chara and Frisk trade roles and Frisk is the one narrating now? I don't think so.

4) But a HUD did activate anyways (even if it didn't properly load), so what is your point?

4.1) But it's easier to say he does NOT teleport his stations. They're already duplicated. We can't have two Sanses, since that would be weird, but having two identical objects is completely fine. Next, there was no need for him to mention his job. And he can lie to us all he wants, he didn't make a promise to be honest with us. And yes, it is technically not an illegal station, just an unregistered one. And Sans has far more than two jobs anyways. He sells hotdogs, telescopes, performs at the MTT restaurant, and is a sentry. The game didn't want to spoil this to us, but if we want to stick to the in-game universe, I'd say it was Sans who didn't want to spoil the surprise to us. Besides, why would he unload the secrets of his quadruple life to a complete stranger anyways?

4.2 + 6) How? We fought Asgore, of course! Undyne acknowledges that there's no stopping us when we call her at the castle view in Waterfall, so Frisk is determined to leave the underground. And even if you say that that's not the case, since WE'RE Frisk and WE do NOT want to kill Asgore, then nothing changes the fact that Flowey still thinks that you want to kill Asgore, take his soul, and leave forever. Which would mean HE would be all alone again.

4.3) But at the beginning we don't know there's someone else. We think we're ____. Only slowly we discover that somehow, we were duplicated across time and space, and then, it is revealed that even that is not the case, since we're not ____ at all! We're Frisk! This sudden change of personality made me think that perhaps ____ had a well established character (by us), but Frisk didn't, meaning Frisk is more separate from us than we may think. Maybe we're not connected to them at all. Frisk is supposed to be someone distant, kinda like Asriel in a sense. Even if we roleplayed them, we aren't them. Their name is not our name.

4.6) Maybe, but soul modes aren't supposed to reflect someone else's personality, they're supposed to reflect your own actions. I get it that without the spear to block the attacks, it no longer makes sense for green to be a kindness mode, but maybe this is just another plot hole. Maybe the first explanation does make sense, and Undyne's words about giving you a spear to shield yourself are nonsensical. Or MAYBE, being green is a PART of receiving a spear to protect yourself. Maybe it's not the green part that gives you a spear, but the spear part that makes you immobile. And being green is just a representation of being immobile. Though, then Papyrus mentions that Undyne turns people's hearts green. For this theory to make sense, he would have to acknowledge the spear part, not the color part. But Papyrus doesn't understand a lot of things, so I wouldn't be bothered by it.

4.10) Still, it is highly improbable that the events spanned two millenia. The only proof for this would be the irregularity of the humans falling down if it was one century. And the monsters grew restless with having 6 souls and not all 7 at one point. One would think that after 250 years they would figure that they can just take the 6 souls and the entire monsterkind and be free. And also, you also may be overestimating the lifespan of monsters. One monster being extremely old doesn't make it a rule.

4.11) I don't find that very convincing. Frisk being completely still? Man do they have some guts.

4.13) No. If you wanted to flee, there's a button for that. No need to go offscreen with your soul. That was my point. That instead of not adding bounds, you add them, and also add a flee option.

5.1) How is your phone able to illuminate you entirely?