Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32335103-20170624122455

What is a SOUL? The very culmination of your being. :D

What is a being though? I think it’s something that is alive, something that exists. So you would need 2 things: a SOUL and a body. A SOUL is what makes you alive, and a body is necessary to exist.

How is a monster being mostly composed? By Magic = Magical form = Undetermined form.

How is a human being mostly composed? By Water = Physical form = Determined form.

I don’t even know if this is relevant, but I started to notice how there are some weird patterns in the world of Undertale. The relation between how the monster’s body is composed and how the human’s is composed too, reminds me of the Ying and Yang. They are complementing each other.

So, now if you think of Ying-Yang balance as a code-pattern and fact, you’d come up with this:

Monster’s SOULs are MOSTLY composed of Magic, obviously magical, something intangible and undetermined. Now, what about the REST? It’s probably composed by some Determination since it would meet the gap in order to balance.

Humans are also, MOSTLY composed by Water, something Physical, Tangible and Determined. So what about the REST? It’s probably composed by some Magic since it would meet the gap in order to balance too.

Basically a Monster being would be composed like this: +MAGIC –DETERMINATION

And a Human being would then be composed like this: +DETERMINATION – MAGIC

The “+” and “–” represent a higher and lower amount of these components respectively.

Ying-Yang pattern once again. They complement each other, they are balanced.

Facts that make this a possibility: A monster can handle certain amount of determination. Additionally, humans used magic in the past. I believe they still can. Chara has powers. I’ll get into detail about this in another theory, but basically, these powers I believe they have are: SAVE, LOAD, ERASE and I’ve yet to place “REFUSE TO DIE” which is extremely connected to what Determination means.

Also, I can’t help but notice that if I were to create a creature which “SOUL” was entirely magical and the “body” was entirely physical, we would get what Flowey is? It’s what Alphys did: bind a “MAGICAL SOUL” in a “PHYSICAL BODY”. A Monster’s SOUL is ALMOST entirely magical though, this explains that Asriel SOUL doesn’t exist anymore. Even if he had a soul, he already lost his body, and Monster SOUL’s are quite attuned to their body. Could this explain why Flowey can’t feel emotions? In the end, what Alphys ends up combining the entirely “PHYSICAL BODY” with, is what I think is best described as Asriel’s “essence”. The books in the library say: “so their essence lives on the object they were dispersed on”. What they disperse is dust, so could this mean that what monsters leave behind is their “magical essence”? Sounds pretty cliché, right? So Flowey exists, but isn’t “alive”.

What happens with a creature with an entirely physical “SOUL” and an entirely magical “body” then? Chara? I think this is possible, just not quite as simple. This doesn’t seem to make sense at all, right? But think of it like this instead: a creature with “DETERMINED SOUL” and “UNDETERMINED BODY”. In other words: Chara. Chara has a “DETERMINED SOUL” in all senses. Their SOUL’s color was the RED one. There’s no mistake about it, this is a fact. It’s their SOUL. It was determined, or if you want to say it in other worlds fated to be like this. Chara reincarnated too, which proves that their SOUL has “REFUSED TO DIE” and fits with “UNDETERMINED BODY” since they didn’t come to life all zombie-like. They were so to say “reborn”. Chara exist and is alive. What we could say that isn’t really alive is “Frisk” since “Frisk” is Chara’s pacifist persona by the end of the pacifist run of the game.

These two particular cases though, have one thing in common: Asriel and Chara died in a previous lifetime. They ceased to exist and were brought back to existence. I found yet another pattern here: what is Chara’s beginning is also Asriel’s ending. It makes the tear jerker even worse than before! This really is their Last Goodbye. And now that I know Chara’s story… that it was them who narrated all along… *heartache intensifies*

<span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(217, 217, 217); line-height: 115%; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-themecolor: background1; mso-themeshade: 217; mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #D9D9D9; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: background1; mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">The other cases are easily explained by following the facts and logic along with the code-pattern, like the Amalgamates and Undyne’s case.

<span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(217, 217, 217); line-height: 115%; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-themecolor: background1; mso-themeshade: 217; mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #D9D9D9; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: background1; mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">An Amalgamate is a fusion of various monsters. Now, take into account that they were still alive and existed. So, if I follow the rules of how a monster being is composed we have a problem.

<span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(217, 217, 217); line-height: 115%; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-themecolor: background1; mso-themeshade: 217; mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #D9D9D9; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: background1; mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">Monster being: +MAGIC – DETERMINATION

<span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(217, 217, 217); line-height: 115%; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-themecolor: background1; mso-themeshade: 217; mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #D9D9D9; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: background1; mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">We are getting more DETERMINATION and breaking the balance. I think that to solve this. The Monsters unconsciously tried to correct this by getting more amounts of magic. To make it easier: They have magic in their bodies so they can fuse to get the magic they need to maintain the balance +MAGIC –DETERMINATION

<span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(217, 217, 217); line-height: 115%; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-themecolor: background1; mso-themeshade: 217; mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #D9D9D9; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: background1; mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">This would explain what happened to Undyne. Remember that in her battle you were nowhere near another monster, so she couldn’t fuse with anyone. This broke the balance and as a result she lost her body. Again, a monster’s soul is attuned to their body. If she can’t maintain her body she turns to dust.

<span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(217, 217, 217); line-height: 115%; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-themecolor: background1; mso-themeshade: 217; mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #D9D9D9; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: background1; mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">Also, I’m kind of positive you have to read things by following certain code-patterns since this helped me make sense of all this. I’m still a bit skeptical though, but I keep finding things like this and they kind of make sense? Or maybe I’m just slowly going insane…?

<span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(217, 217, 217); line-height: 115%; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-themecolor: background1; mso-themeshade: 217; mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #D9D9D9; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: background1; mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">Anyways, I’d really appreciate your ideas and opinions! :) <ac_metadata title="MAGIC-DETERMINATION Explanation Theory" related_topics="Determination"> </ac_metadata>