Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20200107155350/@comment-26006155-20200205160756

Jacky720 wrote: That's interesting.

Did I ever mention the dialogue if you reload a fourth time in the Last Corridor?

...huh? triple-secret codeword? nah, i'm out of material. (You felt something on your keychain.)

Why would the narrator mention that specifically after Sans's dialogue and not before if the key was already there? If Chara remembers reloads, they should have already known it was there and checked immediately; if they don't, they shouldn't have known to look at the keychain.

Neither way works. But "Sans did some funky time stuff and put the key on" does, if requiring that Sans has power over funky time stuff (which is almost already established by everything else mysterious he does). I searching about an hour and a half to try and find this dialogue on the Undertale Wiki. I know it's there, I've seen the page before.. but somehow the exactly link is almost impossible to find.

I found this, but it doesn't mention the narrator key text: https://nochocolate.tumblr.com/post/148850986605/sans-does-not-remember-other-timelines

Ok, here's when you actually get the key: https://youtu.be/SCzTW7NdQ7M?t=359

"(When you looked, the key was already on your keychain)"

.... So in round three, Sans tells us "here's the key to my room", and then we look, and find the key was already on our keychain.

That's a very interesting way to put it. We didn't feel it here, but Chara notes the key was already there. Not that Sans just gave it to us.

And on round 4, Sans doesn't actually mention the key at all, but we feel "something" on our keychain.

Did Narrator Chara forget that we had the key to Sans' room between reload 3 and 4?

Well, Chara didn't know to look at the keychain.. she says "You felt something on your keychain", so it's a reation to something that happened just now, and doesn't require Chara to remember Reload 3.

My take was that Sans used TK to tug on the keychain during Reload 4. Because we were still able to "recieve" the key in Reload 3, but didn't actually feel it on the keychain, we had to look.

How could Sans reset time, while Frisk is still there? Frisk has more determination.

I still think the key was always there on that chain, from the beginning. Our phone always starts with a keychain, No Mercy Chara uses it in New Home even if her phone wasn't upgraded by Alphys.

Yet the game never lets us view this keychain and it's contents. And the Mystery Key to Mettaton's home doesn't 'fit on the keychain' to begin with, staying in our inventory. Another hint the keychain was always there from the beginning.

Ok... so during Reset 4, Sans doesn't actually tell us that we just got The Key to Sans' room. Chara says we just felt something on the keychain, unidentified. So Chara doesn't know what it is at this point.

But we do?

And Frisk certainly remembers, it's his facial expression that Toriel and Sans are reading the whole time. And Frisk is the one who's actually been remembering Sans' passwords each time aruond.