Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-30390828-20161120192150/@comment-26002711-20161202142837

Fastrthnwind wrote:

Integer115 wrote: 1) It doesn't say directly. But there is circumstantial evidence.

2) Or the usual children's curiosity. Or even a thousand other reasons.

3) Only the gun is a real weapon.

4) "They feared the monsters ability to absorb human souls".  How could humans know about the ability of the monsters? It is obvious that the monsters have shown it. Monsters that have absorbed human souls could be a cause for fear and war.

5) Monster with a dead child in her arms. This is a very hard scene.

Monsters killed Frisk constantly. Not only the Royal Guards. Even cute Tsunderplane will kill Frisk. This is a consequence of the policy of Asgore. He not only killed the children. He teaching other monsters that kill human children is normal. 3)Against a monster, it doesn't matter what you use as a weapon. What matters is the intent to hurt/kill them that affects how much damage they take.

4)After all, when they talked about absorbing souls, it was said that monsters could do it POTENTIALLY, not that they were absorbing souls left and right.

5) Did that monster attack anyone though? The monster walked to the center of town and laid the body to rest in a bed of flowers. There was no justified reason to attack something just because it laid down a dead body, even if they didn't know the circumstances. Not only that, but the monster didn't even fight back when they did attack.

But remember, they don't know that Frisk is a human. They are simply greeting them in a monster way. With magic bullets. There is info about this in the librarby about how they use magic bullets as a form of greeting. The only ones trying to kill you are the Royal guards, and even they will stop if you interact with them enough.

Until there is evidence that monsters were also brutally killing humans in the past, the monsters do have a right to be angry and seek justice for the possibly millions of innocent monsters slaughtered for no other reason than fear. 3) Right. But does this knowledge of people who have fallen?

4) Knowledge cannot be obtained without its corresponding practice.

5) "The Green Mile", John Coffey... Somehow, I remembered.

Genocide which is done by the humans has no justification in terms of morality. I admit it.

This is not an excuse. The attacks do not kill immediately. There is a time to notice that Frisk felt sick. In addition, to beg for mercy, or be humiliated in front of the monsters who try to cut you to pieces ... And you're a child... It is extremely unpleasant. Finally, it does not work for Undyne and Asgore.

This justification can be used even for killing monsters in Genocide Route. Not only monsters have their own interests. Chara, too, had their own interests. Morality is different. Other people's crimes do not justify your own crimes. But even mathematics, which is devoid of morality, confronts Asgore:

" You pathetic whelp. If you really wanted to free our kind... You could have gone through the barrier after you got ONE SOUL..." - Toriel

By the time of the meeting with Frisk, Asgore became a serial killer. Evil Boss Monster.