Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20181123023529/@comment-32182236-20181226170627

I say this again:We shouldn't look for the "best" story. We should look for the TRUE story. The letter is more important than the hypothetical "spirit" that might not even exist at all.

My universe numbers might seem to not make much sense, but they go as follows. (Answer some of the questions I give, and that reduces the number of universes, Ferret! You can help simplify this! Once you've given your answers, I'll update the universe numbers accordingly, keeping everything simpler for my next post, where I continue my deconstruction.)

In the Alpha timeline, did Papyrus have suitable replacement guards taking Sans' place? If he did, we're in an odd universe number. Otherwise, it's an even one.

In the odds numbers, NA (1A, 3A, 5A, etc) means the guards could have been spared, and Frisk didn't kill anyone. NB in this case (1B, 3B, 5B, etc) means Frisk HAD to kill them to progress.

In the evens, not much really changes between NA and NB. NA (2A, 4A, 6A, etc) means no guards replaced Sans at all, and NB means the guards were just incompetent.

But that just overly complicates things. I'll just fuse 2B and 2C with 1A, since they have the same effect on the story. So now, odd means Frisk could have spared, and not killed anyone, and even means Frisk had to kill at least some guards. As a result, my previous analysis of loading universes turns into a nice 1, 2, 3, a note about 4, and 5, instead of 1A, 1B, 3A, a note about 3B, and 5A. (I'll be editing the post in question after I finish this one to account for that. Then you should understand it better.)

If Alphys worked with Gaster, we're either in universe 3, 4, 7, or 8. If she didn't, it's universe 1, 2, 5, or 6.

If Flowey existed when Frisk fell, we're in a universe somewhere from 1-4. If he didn't, we're in the group of universe that is 5-8.

Combining all of this together..

Universe 1:Flowey exists, Alphys didn't work for Gaster, and Frisk could (and thus probably has) spared everyone. Thus, we get Flowey telling us that Gaster's the key to our happiness.

Universe 2:Flowey exists, Alphys didn't work for Gaster, and Frisk failed to spare everyone. Thus, we get Flowey asking if killing really matters, just like in that specific Neutral Ending normally, and Frisk already having EXP points, leading to the problem I described. (Which I previously called 1B)

Universe 3:Flowey exists, Alphys worked for Gaster, and Frisk could have spared everyone. So, we get the same as normal Pacifist-Neutral ending from Flowey.

And the pattern continues all the way to..

Universe 7:Flowey does not exist, Alphys worked for Gaster, and Frisk could have spared everyone. Since Flowey didn't exist, he didn't destroy Asgore's SOUL, so it remained. That's why we have the two choices. (Same thing for Universe 5, though what happens afterwards can change, depending on whether Alphys was there for not.) Frisk either absorbed Asgore's SOUL, or he didn't. Once again, we have to ask what made him decide to pose as a monster instead. Toriel made the policy very clear that humans are friends now. That includes Frisk.

Universe 8:Flowey does not exist, Alphys worked for Gaster, and Frisk failed to spare everyone.

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Now do you understand? (In the process of editing my previous post to fit this simpler system)