Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-32182236-20180820003510

Tsskyx wrote: To add onto that, I think this is one of the best analysis of Toby's work and him I've seen so far: https://redd.it/3wqqez Really, it goes too far on the speculative side. What we CAN deduce from this is that Gaster is connected to Sans (already part of my theory anyway), those references to Gaster actually being references to Gaster, and that Gaster was fleshed out later in development. Not that Gaster DIDN'T EXIST before then. (But yes, I believe the creepy faces were either from Flowey or Chara. I don't know who's been linking them to Gaster, but there's no evidence that they were from Gaster. And Alphys' entries were indeed unrelated to Gaster's Entry 17:According to the game's canon, Alphys became a Royal Scientist just after creating Mettaton. Also, Gaster fell BEFORE Alphys became a Royal Scientist. Mettaton had already made it big by Entry 11, meaning that to place Gaster's Entry 17 as Entry 17 on Alphys timeline would create a contradiction. This is GASTER'S 17th entry:We don't know what happened to Alphys' 17th entry. (Though we do know what it contained, based on the datamined entry)

To summarize:All we could prove using this method is stuff that we could have proven anyway just by looking at the game, and that Gaster was fleshed out after the rest of the story, which makes sense, if we consider that Sans and the CORE are the only real things he's connected to, and there's a difference between saying Alphys didn't build the core, the one before him did, and actually fleshing out said character. Fleshing out Gaster before then would be like fleshing out the character of the seven magicians:There's just no point, when it has no impact on the main story.

But, that doesn't mean Toby didn't have this character in mind... Just that he had no need to put in information about a character that was unimportant at the time, and possibly forgotten by nearly everyone?

Still though:I do think trying to find out everything Gaster did is pointless. There just isn't enough information to do that, likely because whatever it is that he fell into either A:Wasn't that important to the lore anyway, or B:Happens to just be the CORE anyway, so nothing new is added-Just that we know how he died.