Talk:Echo Flowers/@comment-27344649-20160101221802/@comment-27344649-20160101235716

1. I'm going to have to say absolutely not. It's unlikely that Undyne has ever classically trained Papyrus. Her body language implies to me that she's referring to someone she no longer sees, or perhaps isn't even around anymore.

2. That's fair, but this theory also adds a substantial amount of context for one of the main characters' (and in some sources, false protagonist) backstory, so I wouldn't give up on it quite yet. Context which, doesn't have any place in the story otherwise. Who do you think it is? Is it Shyren and her sister? Her sister's been dead long before the story takes place. Is it the Monster Kid? Maybe, but why would it be? What differences would that make that the creators put them on your journey? So supposedly it's no one, just because the Echo Flowrers might have lost the whispers otherwise. That honestly works for Chara, but Undyne is only 19-21 years old, putting her history in a much more recent timeline.The lore is trying to tell us 'something' about Undyne, regardless if these whispers have any relation. Suppose if they did? Then suddenly, it would answer a lot of questions, such as:

Where did she come from? Gerson found her when she was all by herself.

And for that matter, what happened to her to make her so motivated?

(Spoiler) Why is she so naturally Determined? Did this have something to do with Alphys's experiments, and what posessed her to do the following, potentially risking her life?

"...Alphys...

This is what I was afraid of... This is why I never told you......No... No!Not yet!I won't die!"