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@TheHumanAmbassador

"There's a giant hole seen in the intro. Why didn't Chara jump down the hole?"

How is that even related to their reason to climb the mountain??You know the mountain where everyone is said to dissapear?Yes they tripped but that does NOT explain in any why why they climbed a dangerous mountain like that?

"I think it was to get away from humanity. "

1.That's really good reason actually!!Not an "unhappy one"

2.if Chara wanted to espace why would they climb a mountain where everyone dissapear??The fact is:they didn't,they wanted to "dissapear"once and for all.

3.Flowey confirns chara's reason to climb the mountain in genocide run:

"So i decided to follow YOUR footsteps.I would ERASE MYSELF FROM EXISTENCE"

"You are aware that terrorists think that they're doing the right thing, right? I think the same is the case for Chara. (I don't call them a terrorist, though, because they're not trying to threaten humanity into making a political change. Instead.. They're an Anti-Villain.)"

Chara is NEVER planned to destroy humanity.Their plan was only to free the monsters ,i already proved it HUNDRED TIMES so stop to brought this all over again okay?

Then Chara thought of killing Asgore. They asked Asriel if he wanted to help Chara make a pie for their dad. Asriel said yes. Chara instead of using butter, used buttercups, Chara was raised by humans (no duh) but they didn’t exactly treat them well ( in Chara’s mind ) so Chara one day decided that they couldn’t handle this and wanted to commit suicide. And if they couldn’t, they would go down Mt. Ebott and hope for a monster to kill them (humans thought monsters were murderers).

There's a giant hole seen in the intro. Why didn't Chara jump down the hole?

...They tripped on a vine and fell down the hole. We see that happen in the intro.

Chara's reasons for climbing the mountain wasn't for a happy reason, but it was suicidal either.

I think it was to get away from humanity. Though it could also be because they supported monsters, which would probably get them hated by the rest of humanity.. And it could have been exile, given how this was a punishment in the distant past, and I think Chara fell in the distant past. (Long story short, monster calendar doesn't fit human calendar, Chara fell way before Frisk, and we see the Surface in the modern era as Frisk.)

One of Gasters experiments caused Chara’s Hate for humans to become an urge to kill humans.

...Why?

I think their hatred was just that strong to begin with. From their perspective, monsters are good, and humans are flat-out evil, because of how they treated monsters.

You are aware that terrorists think that they're doing the right thing, right? I think the same is the case for Chara. (I don't call them a terrorist, though, because they're not trying to threaten humanity into making a political change. Instead.. They're an Anti-Villain.)

After that day Chara planned on their escape and they planned on ways to kill all humans. One day, Chara learned that they could cross through the barrier using a boss Monsters soul along with their own, or if they had 7 human souls. Chara then killed some monsters secretly in the hopes that they had boss souls.

...Why?

We know that Boss Monsters are a special kind of monster, and I think it'd be pretty obvious which species is a Boss Monster. We really have no evidence that Chara tried killing anyone. Even as Chara was dying, Asgore still called Chara the future of humans and monsters.

If Chara killed off monsters, the dust remains would be visible. And enough times, and the murders would be witnessed.

Yet, the monsters still see Chara as good.

"You got the actual story of their death correct, though. Asriel was also aware of the SOUL control, though.

"And we'll do it together, right?"-Asriel, Tape 5

Chara must have told him."

No.Asriel himself was suprised of this as he confess himself:

"the control was ACTUALLY split between us"

"Actually"means that he was SUPRISED by this.So i guess that Asriel by "We'll do it together"meant that Chara and him would indirectly do it together as they shared a body.

"Perhaps this line only means that Chara would choose to reset if they had that power."

I think that it's more likely that Flowey thinks it's Chara who wants a reset as Frisk according to his own words,is happy with their ending.

"They encourage genocide, but the choice is still yours, Frisk."

ONLY and ONLY if you start one.They never encourage a genocide run in any other run .That because by killing all monsters in the ruins you showed them that they came back to gain power and that it kill or be killed .If you give up ,then it's sign that power isnt the reason Chara came back thus they stop to encourage genocide run.Otherwise,they would'nt stop encouraging it.

"Let us erase this pointless world, and move onto the next"-Chara

" I will say that basically, what you're seeing here is not the world of UNDERTALE. UNDERTALE's world and ending are the same as however you left them. If everyone was happy in your ending, the people in the UNDERTALE world will still be happy. So, please don't worry about those characters, and that world. It will remain untouched."-Toby Fox