Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32783587-20180302162510/@comment-27136653-20180315193623

"im using this to disprove people who previously sais "but the voice is different" im just saying that its possible and (based on my other proofs( makes it more likely than not)"

So you're saying it is possible? It is also possible for a butterfly to cause a hurricane. As I said, this is no argument. If you have a conjecture and you're adamant about it, then why don't you ACTUALLY show us the proof to it? If there is any, that is.

"and you keep saying that he could just teleport, but the point is he has to bring frisk WITH him. teleporting or traveling underground probably couldnt make frisk go with him, so theres no point. and you keep trying to say that him dressing up in that costume is entirely random but thats like saying "oh woshua is weird because he has a duck" lots of things in the game are weird, so something being random is no surprised."

Lotsa things are weird. Saying it is probable just because it isn't impossible is totally baseless and not constructive in any way at all. Also, okay. He wants to bring Frisk places. Strange that he never forced us to hop on to that boat in the game, nor the Riverperson ever rode us somewhere we didn't want to be. Still, I get it. Flowey riding us around to speed our journey up. It is actually likely. But then, what about the damn PUZZLES? HUH?!

"really? are you sure? i thought the undyne  phone call  while backtracking only initiated after the photoshop flowey reset."

To be honest, I made that claim under the assumption that a fellow friend of mine wasn't lying to me. But now, I am more conflicted on that than ever. Don't take my word for it just yet. But this point doesn't really matter here all that much anyways.

"but i dont get how this proves your point. knowing the game doesnt mean you cant make good theories."

Yes it does. You also have to know how to actually do it, and also actually be interested in doing it. Lastly you must not be a cuck. FYI you don't know the game and don't know how to do it. Those are your only flaws.

"he doesnt help too much because he doesnt want to seem suspicious. not only that, but the hotland thing, HOW could he help you if there are no boats around? water transportation is faster than any way i could think of."

The river flows through Hotland, if you've forgotten already.​ Also, are you really telling me that the reason why Flowey doesn't solve the puzzles and constantly makes the job harder for himself is so that no one would get suspicious? At this point, it would be easier for him to simply let Frisk go on their own. That way he won't be suspicious AT ALL.

So, once again, you showed no proof. You just introduced new arguments to patch the holes in your previous claims, without explaining what led you to construct this conjecture in the first place, and without actually managing to present a single convincing argument towards it. This "theory" has no substantial proof, no anti-thesis either, it is therefore just a silly idea that you came up, simply due to noticing a few rather general similarities between Flowey and Riverperson...

Kinda like that one time MatPat came up with that silly idea that Sans is Ness, simply because he noticed a few similarities between the two.

Or that one time a few thousand people claimed the Earth is flat. Oh wait, that wasn't 2 years ago, that's still an ongoing event! Silly me.

"but be open to some different opinions!"

Never. I will never do that. Opinions can be wrong, you know? And besides, they're just that, opinions. Your opinion can be that Trump is doing the world a justice and I couldn't care less. Call me when you come up with an ACTUAL theory,"ass."

"science can kill itself because it doesnt matter here."

Oh? Well then, Sans is Ness from now on. Also, the world is flat. Shall we carry on? Actually, have you even seen the video? I think it's rather good. Take a closer look at it. I think you will find it very, VERY shocking and surprising!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYdDUXyFocY

"how is it a hole and not a tiny flaw?"

I don't know. You said that about the following:

As I said, this indeed disproves your theory. Asriel didn't want to be seen. With his state of the mind and his goals, why the hell would he out of ALL the things dress up in a cloak and sit in a boat, waiting to you to arrive? (Assuming he somehow knew whether you would come or not.) And what about the vines, hmm? Riverperson has a larger figure than Asriel, and Asriel is a boss monster, not a flower. Lastly, no, there is no proof. You simply showed how none of those arguments disprove your speculations, but you haven't presented a single convincing argument that would conclusively prove them yet.

What exactly is the "minor drawback" here according to you? I think it's the paragraph itself. But perhaps you meant something else, something more specific?

Nonetheless, this is a huge waste of time for me. At least learn how to quote. Then I'll at least have some respect for you.

Cheers.