Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-27136653-20181115204413

"Isn't the latter B, by your reasoning? Since it's literally defined?"

When you make up a new rule for the universe itself, that's C.

If you have an in-universe explanation (e.g. magic exists, so maybe magical crystals do too, and maybe those are what is powering this forcefield), then it's B.

"Also, why don't the other monsters make use of these crystals to prevent Frisk from making it to Asgore?"

I was asking myself this as I was thinking about the mechanics of Sans's battle. Or why don't the monsters simply block the roads if a human happens to enter the underground. The lack of utilization of these tropes and whatnot is just mind-boggling to me. Though, if you want a concrete answer to that question, perhaps, the crystals lose their power if you detach them.

"They're incapable of ATTACKING Gerson SPECIFICALLY."

Is it a deux ex machina then? Or yet another inexplicable rule we could categorize as C? You know, the simulation hypothesis at least gives it an explanation. And I mean one which is plausible for our own reality. Which is where we're drawing our reasoning from anyways.

"B-Explain it with a rule that already has been shown to exist"

The cases we're arguing about assume that such an option doesn't exist, that something is inexplicable using our current models. So A, give up (hacker ending), B, come up with something (soul mechanics), C, ad hoc (you name it).

I'm trying to reason that most of the HUD stuff is totally ad hoc. That is, very difficult to describe in terms of our own universe, consisting of very specific conditions, which are more reminiscent of a computer program, rather than something that has evolved on its own, and most importantly, is it really magic? Magic comes from souls. But souls are a part of this system. What is this system then, if not magic? Some meta-magic? Well, that's just another word for the laws of a universe, which, once again, compare to a simulation.

"I also have explanations on DT and SOULs that fit into the "red=DT" hypothesis. Who says you can't have both?"

I meant, my findings make it necessary to create an additional condition for the SLR power, due to Asriel's battle. If I were to reconsider, I'd break more than I'd fix. I'm not gonna reconsider everything because of one minor detail, which is starting to look more and more like a plot hole the longer I stare at it.

"Flowey DOES address this... In the Omega Flowey fight. Also, you haven't bamboozled him. You still have to fight him again."

That's not what I'm talking about though. I'm saying he doesn't address this in the FINAL fight, that's my point. You have bamboozled him, and he doesn't even acknowledge it. Why? Plot hole? Your DT? Your DT seems like the better explanation, but then again, we are using the same argument to argue why we have these powers to begin with. Careful there.

As for the bug in the ruins, I dunno. Could be still there. I'm too tired to check right now. If the condition prevails though, it's obvious what's going on. Toby is lazy as fuck. I mean, he literally fixed characters walking over air with glass tiles, instead of addressing the core issue. What else do you expect? You expect him to create a detailed autosave for the final battle just to deal with that supposed plot hole? HA! Yeah, like that's gonna happen in a million years.