Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-37334388-20190301031034/@comment-32182236-20190818125141

Alright.. My argument isn't simple. it's actually quite complex.

I do think that Chara wished to eradicate humanity.. But not just because they wanted to kill six humans.

So let's go onto my actual argument. I hope you can follow me along.

First off, we have to establish that Chara brought their own body to the center of the garden. Now, I know that Chara wished for this.. They had to make such a wish in order to not raise much suspicion on why Asriel brought them to the surface.

One could argue that this is a genuine wish.. But WHY? They hate humanity.. It wouldn't be in their character to want to spend the rest of their afterlife with the humans that they HATED. (Assuming they even believed there WAS such a thing)

So this wish was an excuse. And that's our first premise.

Premise 1:Chara made a fake wish to see the golden flowers.

Time for the next premise.

Monsters couldn't see the Surface. So once Asriel crossed the barrier, they had no reason to continue to hold the body. The monsters wouldn't be able to tell for sure whether or not the body was truly buried in the golden flowers. And if the plan succeeded and the monsters were free, they'd already know what Asriel and Chara were up to just from that.

So Chara had literally no reason to keep carrying it. Yet they did. That's our next premise.


 * Premise 1:Chara made a fake wish to see the golden flowers
 * Premise 2:Chara kept up the façade, even when doing this doesn't help with freeing the monsters.

So, then.. If Chara wasn't doing this to keep the plan a secret, and they didn't actually want to be buried in the golden flowers.. Then why DID they do this?

The golden flowers were also in the very center of the village.. Where they would be seen by plenty of humans. Asriel would have to be lucky not to get spotted by a human. And Asriel, a monster, which humans are known to hate, holding a dead body, would definitely raise suspicion.

It only makes sense if Chara intended to get Asriel attacked by the humans.

So add that to the argument.


 * Premise 1:Chara made a fake wish to see the golden flowers
 * Premise 2:Chara kept up the façade, even when doing this doesn't help with freeing the monsters.
 * Premise 3:Chara knew that this would attract humans to attack Asriel
 * Conclusion 1:Chara wanted the humans to attack Asriel

But why would Chara want the humans to attack Asriel? They only needed to get six, and Asriel was perfectly fine with the plan, even before the humans attacked. And there were probably well MORE than six humans that would attack. That's more than they need, which could be why Asriel refused to fight back.

It could be that Chara intended Asriel to see the humans as evil.. And hate humanity just as much as they do... And put him in a kill-or-be-killed situation. So that Asriel would HAVE to fight the humans, to protect his life!

Then, after seeing how bad humans could be.. Asriel might agree to destroy humanity.

That's the only motive that makes sense. Unless you have a better motivation to make the humans attack..

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 * Premise 1:Chara made a fake wish to see the golden flowers
 * Premise 2:Chara kept up the façade, even when doing this doesn't help with freeing the monsters.
 * Premise 3:Chara knew that this would attract humans to attack Asriel
 * Conclusion 1:Chara wanted the humans to attack Asriel
 * Premise 4:Conclusion 1 only makes sense if Chara wanted Asriel to help destroy humanity
 * Conclusion 2:Chara wanted to destroy humanity

And THAT's my argument. I dare you to tear it to shreds, Okeirany.