Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-30187810-20190709200510

now this is a stretch but ive come to the conclusion thay flowey is the river person! lets go over the facts-

1. your first argument against it might be, well it doesnt look like flowey! yeah, but whats under that hood? you cant see it, so it could be and is very likely to be flowey!

2. second, you might say, well if a tiny flower is in there, how does that hood stay up? vines. even if we cant see them, he can still hold the hood up, or they might just not be there. you dont see everything in the game!

3. now, you might say "well the voice is different" well well, true, but it has been shown that flowey can imitate voices pretty well, like in the true lab.

4. now, if flowey is evil, why is he helping you? simple, he wants you to hurry up and reach the end of the game by sending you places. he doesnt kill you right on the spot because he knows youll just reload and beat him. so, he waits until HE has the power to save. since he knows a lot about timelines, getting to the end of the game is the best plan for him to be powerful, except in genocide (but he doesnt know that). so thats why he transports you places, and also backtracks to the side quests in the pacifist route (so he can be even MORE powerful by helping you!) so he isnt really helping, just tricking you. in the genocide similarly, he is helping you transport places to slaughter all monsters.

5. you might say if flowey follows you around, how does he end up where the river person is? teleportation. he can do that somewhat easily as a flower.

6. now the only downside to this is, asriel is in the pacifist route in the ruins but the river person is normal. but honestly, theres much more proof for it than against it that we can ignore this point.

what do yall think? 