Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-32182236-20170803234503

1)What do you mean they don't? Of course they do! You deal more damage with the weapons, and you take less with the armor! Once again, we can't disregard any evidence!

One:Reload. JUST RELOAD HUMAN. Then it won't be dirty with mud anymore! The comic makes sense if the human COULDN'T SAVE and LOAD, though!

Two:The monster asked for the Apron, not the pan. No need to give them the pan. Also, why did the monster drop it? That just shifted the problem, it didn't eliminate it.

Three:And then Gerson SELLS it. What happened there?!

It's not that such events weren't said to have happened. It's that they don't make sense.

2)Well, the city's also nowhere CLOSE to being futuristic. So it would have been abandoned LONG ago.

3)Actually, I'm saying this is nonsense under this "good Chara" theory. Why would they trust you when you're killing everything they love?!?! Why would they guide you to killing all of the monsters?! And, most of all.. Why do they call you their "partner" at the end of the Genocide Route? It just doesn't fit their pre-death character. They hated humanity, so why would they side with you, another human, ESPECIALLY if you're killing their "friends"? Their own MOTHER dies, and that's when they start telling you to keep it up. They don't do anything to try and stop you! They like what they're doing, enough to even thank you at the end of the Genocide Route. I do not deny that Chara was at least SOMEWHAT good.. up until the point where they died together. But after that, they've changed drastically. Their hatred of humanity seems to have dissapeared, and monsters are their "enemy" (Togetehr, we eradicated the enemy).

3.1)No, Chara assumed you said something different from what you actually said. Once again, the definition of "Heckle" is "to question harshly, in an attempt to reveal weakness." Calling the Amalgamte ugly isn't doing that. What you did was an ACTUAL heckle, not calling the monster ugly!

3.2)They pointed out to both Frisk AND us that there's nothing to laugh at. They probably didn't scold us because they consider the possibility that you laughed at cope with the pain, like they once did with Asgore.

4)Alright.. This'll be "fun".. I'll also explain another anomaly at the same time, they're linked.

When we meet Sans in Waterfall, he mentions that he has two jobs, and asks why you're surprised. Twice as many jobs, twice as many breaks. But, aren't there THREE stations? (Snowdin, Waterfall, Hotland) We can't say that all the stations was one job, as the only job we've seen him have is his stations, and yet he mentions having two jobs, not two stations, when we're apparently suprised by this.

We know Sans has the ability to teleport, and he can bring others with him as well (otherwise Frisk wouldn't be able to follow Sans' "shortcuts"). The station in Hotland having snow is a hint to the solution to this strange paradox:That's actually the same station from Snowdin. Sans probably didn't want Papyrus to have yet another reason to say he was slacking off-We know the first time Sans was outside of his station, after all. (When we first meet the SkeleBros) Since the rule he said was not to leave the station... Why not just take the station with ya? And that's what Sans did! (And he was too lazy to clean off that snow from Snowdin.)

4.1)It wouldn't. The box only exists in a fight of human vs monster. So no, the box doesn't happen every street brawl. And if it was physical boundaries, it wouldn't be the exact same almost every time. Besides, that would fail to explain Lemon Bread. :3

The box appears when the monster attacks using magic. Yeah, pretty easy to know when to appear. And the encounter screen is probably just how Frisk sees it. To everyone else watching, they're just fighting each other.. And the monster never dodges a single attack. Also, Frisk has been able to spare every monster before Asgore. What would convince them that you can't do the same with Asgore? Besides, Asgore doesn't even want to fight Frisk, so sparing him might be quite easy, actually! Also, explain why he's the only one to notice where the SOUL is? Flowey explains to us that the heart is our SOUL, and literally every monster we know of attacks at yoir SOUL. They're aware of that. So why can't they tell where you SOUL is if it's your turn? Also, your SOUL moves when you go to select an option, and that affects whether you're hit by the bones or not. So there IS something Frisk is interacting with this way. It's canon. We also know how Frisk interacts with the HUD during a FIGHT:Using their SOUL.

Yeah, that is quite strange. Well, it would be. But you see, having a shield is just a part of having a green SOUL mode! So, why doesn't the green SOUL in Omega Flowey have a shield? Well, it's not participating in a FIGHT! (Or Undyne's just being kind to us. Except that's strange since she wants to kill us. So the former's best.)

Except that's disregarding evidence, which is a problem of its own. And we DO know what happens when a flower absorbs six SOULS. They steal the ability to SAVE, can destroy other SAVES... And still want to kill everything.

If Frisk took out a weapon and attacked, the monster could obviously dodge. Doing it this way guarantees the monster won't be able to dodge. Also, you can't exactly do that when all you can move is your SOUL. Hearts don't exactly have hands to hold stuff with. And yes, usually a battle sceen is for the player. And usually, battle screens aren't abused by other characters, and meta stuff doesn't happen at all.

5)No battle screen appeared becuase Frisk couldn't SEE the battle screen. The sound effect when he teleported away matches the sound effect that plays when a battle begins. Sans DID start a "battle". And him teleporting away counted as him fleeing.

We can see Frisk, but nothing else in the dark room. Why? Because Frisk can't see anything in the dark room, but themselves. And what do you mean "angles Frisk can't"? Sure, we don't see just the lamp. Frisk is not looking just at the lamp-They know what's going on! We lose our vision because Frisk lost theirs. Sans also could have been starting off into whatever was south of the room. Just because we can't see it doesn't mean it's not there.

And yes, Sans does refuse to show us/Frisk. It's teleportation he refuses to show us. NOT altering the code. Once again, if he could alter the code, he could set our HP to 0. He could un-kill his OWN BROTHER by just removing the flag that says he's dead. He could just block our way out of the Ruins by coding in a wall after he realizes that we'd been killing everyone. He could give Papyrus infinite HP.

5.1)What's wrong with the Surface? Why can't they play together in the Surgace?

6)Don't have a simpler one that actually works. But, that's not the point anymore. The point is that SOUL modes depend on your SOUL color. As in, the blue human had the blue SOUL mode by default, and had to jump around. Hey, maybe we can use THAT to try and explain how they died to Asgore! ...would it possible to beat Asgore under the Blue Mode? ..I don't think we could figure that out without actually hacking that mode into the Asgore fight. But it wouldn't explain how Yellow died to Asgore, Yellow'd do much better than us. :3