Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27907368-20160412010659/@comment-27907368-20160425123632

When I say pacifist, I mean what you say when you say "true pacifist". I consider any run where you finish with no LOVE and still have to fight ASGORE a "default neutral" run.

I also consider any run where you default out of the dust lust route (not killing Snowdrake, for example) a "default neutral" because you're forced into neutral even though you have 19 LOVE at the end. You know, even though "but nobody came" is displayed in all areas.

Like... I don't know why it gets the branding of "true". You could not kill anything the first time through and do everything right and FLOWEY will still go Photoshop on you because he hasn't learned his lesson. Alternatively, you can be one step away from dust lust, not kill a Vulkin, fight Photoshop, and then get a pacifist ending.

I'm sure it's in comparison to soulless pacifist? Anyway, I don't consider neutral routes the same as pacifist. That's what I mean. ASGORE will die and the hearts will shatter. T_T