Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28974149-20180305043309/@comment-28974149-20180324153347

TheHumanAmbassador wrote: Actually, Toby IS a "dirty liar". He said the v1.001 patch would only fix bugs. This was not the case, it added in secrets as well.

So, we can't say there's proof of Undertale 2 coming. That could be another lie. (Of course, we can't say this DISPROVES Undertale 2 either.) Besides, we already know quite a bit about Gaster, and there's still evidence sprinkled around for us to find out even more. Since falling into his own creation made him shatter, we can clearly deduce he created more than just the CORE (either that or the CORE is/was much more than just a powerplant.) Actually that's what we call a hint , note that Toby over explained everything instead of saying "It's just bugfixs" he added alot of extra detail. "There's no reason to replay the game or anything." That a pretty suspicious thing to say. . .  It was a clue. Like, for example:  "Where are the cookies." "They're NOT in the 5th cabinet. So whatever you do, don't look in there." It's reverse psycology.

Besides, lying about a patch and lying on a Kickstarter while using the 51,025 dollars the fans gave to you expecting everything from it is a totally different animal, I am aware there are some dirty assholes who completely lie on the kickstarter but do you really accuse our Toby Fox of such a thing? ...How dare you? You have no faith in the creator of this game we love?

Toby has shown that he is completely honest about this, there were a few things that had to be left out of the game and he wasted no time in announcing this and apologizing. And also assured that the only Risk was that he wouldn't finish the game on time .

He is a good honest annoying dog. The best qualities an annoying dog could have, honestly.

Undertale 2? There is going to be no "Undertale 2" He assured us that he would never make a direct sequel. But that leaves alot of wiggle room for a game that's in-universe but not connected to anything or a prequel. Which I think is what "Shrouded in Darkness" is most likely going to be since Gaster only exists in the past now.

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We know what that other creation is it's nothing new:

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And we know Toby said "they" tried to fix it, but it's impossible... W. D. Gaster is lost forever... all that's left is the CORE, this little lab, and our favorite Skelebros who we know our related in some way due to their "Gaster Blaster" move, which Papyrus implies is his true special attack and Sans' metaknowledge of how the Universe works.

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We do know alot about Gaster, in fact, Gaster himself isn't really a mystery but what IS is his connection to Sans and Papyrus and to Suzy. Who were all these guys?

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Who were these "Gaster Follower" guys before they became Spacetime-y  wanderers? Why do they look like NPC's that already exist? Are they alternate versions from the dead timeline? Or siblings?

And we know little to nothing about who the skele brothers are All we know is Papyrus feels lonely and just wants friends and fame, is creative, loves building puzzles, has a complex tome of puzzles, has an intelligent vocabulary except for those times when he makes up words for fun, has a vague knowledge of "other endings"

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hates Sans' puns but likes it when Undyne does them and occasionally does them, wants to capture you but doesn't want to kill you and also believes others can be as GREAT as he narcissistically thinks he is if they just try. He is Sans' overly happy and strangely taller and stronger younger brother who also dreams of selling flames, a literal fire sale.

And we know Sans, the shorter, weaker, older brother, likes puns and jokes and even does standup at MTT resort, loves greasy food, practically lives at grillbys to the point that the place adopts his theme, dislikes making promises for some unknown reason, has hatred of humans but was nice to us because of the promise he made to Toriel, is very observant unlike his seemingly oblivious brother, knows alot about the universe, has done reports with someone, and has given up on something important in the past wanting to go "back" "home". Likes sci-fi stuff, enjoys pranking others across Time and Space to the point where Papyrus sees it as an everyday thing, has strange reality manipulating ability that he shouldn't have and has given him more stregnth than is natural to him, and is depressed as he knows his entire universe is at our mercy and genocide.

And they both have to power to influence gravity on the soul.

That's alot, cool, but as you see from Sans there is alot of mystery, in fact, both of them have absolutely no trace-ble past. They are only known to have come in the recent past just "appearing" one day out of nowhere and "asserting themselves".

There is also the interesting fact that undertale follows video game rules, that is, every monster has it's own habitat, and if so, Sans and Papyrus are out of place, Skeletal monsters belong in the lava level, in hotland. We know Gaster worked there but Sans and Papyrus are skeletons in a snow level... it's weird. And we know Alphys was an weeb lizard living among trash in waterfall until Gaster's absence allowed tha she, with a misguided crush on Asgore led her to build Mettaton's body and collude with her friend to create the mettaton that we know and love and accidentily become the royal scientist. That also puts her out of place, since lizards do not belong in fire levels.

Just something to note. Either way every scrap of evidence we can find about Gaster has been found, the game has been 100% datamined, and we still have all these questions... questions, only "Shrouded in Darkness" can answer.

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It's coming.