Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-29788596-20160906011125/@comment-32182236-20200129210616

@Mago:We really need to simply ask the question:Why did Chara hate humanity?

Asriel told us that Chara didn't climb the mountain for a happy reason.

That should tell us what's motivating all of this.

I just said we can't save Chara, because Chara has never been saved in any route. Sometimes, one can become too far gone. Really, we have to ask a simple question.

Can even the worst person change? Can everybody be a good person, if they just try?

And this time, I'm not going to be asking you if you wanna have a bad time. It doesn't apply in this case.

Just because corruption turned them evil doesn't mean its possible to turn them back. But perhaps there is a way. We really don't know. All we can say is after a single Genocide, nothing will stop Chara from killing everyone, making them impossible to save. This tells us that nothing in Pacifist can save Chara.

...But what about events AFTER Pacifist? Events that wouldn't happen if Chara kills everyone before then?

It's conceivable that a non-Tainted Pacifist Route has a timeline where Chara is saved, sometime after the ending of the route.

As for what Chara's up to in the Surface..

If merely the Underground was destroyed in the first swipe, then the Soulless Pacifist could just be Chara preparing for the second, to destroy BOTH worlds, rather than just the one below. (In fact, I'd say Occam's Razor leans towards it.)

And if both worlds were destroyed in the first swipe, that's no longer an option. Meaning that there must be some other reason why Chara wanted a Pacifist Route.. While still killing off the monsters. Why Chara wanted to be on the Surface. With the humans. Meaning Chara has something planned with the humans.