Thread:BlackfootFerret/@comment-32182236-20190319173036/@comment-26006155-20190322192135

Ask yourself this: Which senario better follows the themes of Undertale?

Kanashi being a murderous bastard who preyed on human souls and was justly vanished at the hands of humans...

... or Kanashi being misunderstood, actually being a compassionate creature, and being a terrible victom of unusual circumstances and fate?

Throw out the entire Probability argument for a moment.

The whole theme of Undertale is about befriending your enemy, and understanding them in way a murder hobo that spends all day slaying them never could.

Kanashi being a war criminal makes no sense in this context. Which matches with the lore we've been presented, because the humans launched the first, sneaky, surprise attack to start the war at a time when they had nothing to fear.

While I was making my Steve Universe theories, the reason I told The Dark Rose Theory as the first of two possiblities, was because it was the theory that came first in the chain.

Rose Quartz has a creepy edge, because she's secretly devouring gems and stealing their powers! And she's made Steven for the sole reason of increasing her own power by devouring him!

Rose being a gem-power vampire seems to make good sense, and is very likely. So, does this fit with the theme of the show so far?

.... HELL no.

I looked at that theory, and realized that it had problems.

If Rose was a gem power vampire, why didn't make sure Bismuth would NEVER talk to anyone again, and just devour her, instead of stashing her in Lion's mane where she could eventually (and did) escape?

Steven Universe is all about understanding eithers, resolving differences, and learning to be friends. Forcing Steven to basically kill him on corrupted mother, while anime hardcore to the extreme, completely flies in the face of the show goals upt this point.

So I started looking for other, better ways the show might resolve.

A genocide war against Homeworld, reselting in the shattering of the other three diamonds too? That would have a negative outcome, rather than a positive one. Whatever force Homeworld was fighting in the background would then have free reign to destroy The Earth, and there's nothing Steven and his small band could do to stop it.

.. but what if we were wrong about Pink Diamond? What if she sacrificed herself and made Steven because it was the only way to save both the Earth, and Homeworld itself?

A very detailed and improbably story.. but once that would be amazing to tell, and inspiring as all heck.

If I were writing the show, I'd definitely prefer ressurrecting Pink Diamond rather than shattering the others. It's just a better story with a better point at the end.

Kanashi might well have been the first Boss Monster, because of their strange link to a human. Do Toriel and Asgore and kid Asriel seem like evil encarnate? No, they don't. They make all the greedy humans look terrible in comparison.

Kanashi (name means "sadness", again) probably wanted the same for their world. But instead, their very existance caused the world they loved to be torn apart.

Kanashi's human link being a gift or an accident makes far more sense with Undertale's goals leading up to this point, than just having Kanashi be some sort of actual monster.

Asriel is a monster with a human soul, after all.

The game isn't about proving that monsters are good or evil. It's about saying that while many humans are evil, they don't have to be. And putting that message in a context where it's hard to avoid.