Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-32182236-20180728005007

"Wait do you mean that its impossible for Frisk to cross the barrier but that is possible for them to enter to the barrier? What?"

..Whoops. Trapped BY the Barrier. Either way, their journey is finished. There's nothing left for them here. So, let us erase this timeline, and move onto the next.

[RESET] [DO NOT]

"Yes in the place you can get when the barrier is destroyed, in other words the other side of the barrier"

Um, no. It's the room directly beyond Asriel's battle room. It's actually not on the other side of the barrier.

"What invisible wall? The only barrier is the white wall "this is the barrier""

The one in Room 2 that we can't cross, even from Surface to Underground? The one that the tumblr post you linked insisted was the Barrier, althrough it isn't?

"Chara's essence make Frisk's soul power stronger, so its still soul power that allow them to cross the barrier"

..That's not how it works. Essence doesn't have SOUL power:Else Frisk would be gaining SOUL power from the dust they accumilate when they kill. "No i said red means the lack of trait not being different from others unless the host develop a personality, either similar or different from another red host"

Completely different than what the first red flag speaks of it as-The combination of the other six.

"But how a message addressed to Chara is supposed to give Frisk determination"

The same way messages to one group of people has still affected other groups when they hear it? The message still fully applies to Frisk:They ARE the future of humans and monsters, they shouldn't ive up, and they should stay determined!

"I think Flowey's case proove that essence's own will to live isnt affected by the vessel determination."

Essence isn't the will to live. It's mental identity-Consiousness. It's what separates living beings from p-zombies. (Look it up if you don't know what a p-zombie is) Flowey has the will to live because he has determination injected within him-It's what separates life from death. It gives him life. He's Asriel because he has Asriel's essence. Asriel's consiousness, his mental self, possesed the flower.

Consiousness/Mental Identity =/= Life

"Yet they couldn't revive Chasriel? "

"since they likely had the recept power because of the fusion of them and Asriel then, its a mystery"

If they can revive us, they should be able to revive Chasriel. That's a case of the rule being broken, and universal rules can'tbe broken.

"They say "its me Chara"firstly in the Toriels house during the genocide run"

Yes. ONLY in Genocide.

"Where did you get THAT conclusion?"

"I would ask this question to you:where do you get the conclusion that Chara need love to get their physical form?"

Because they only gain physical form at LV20-We SEE them like that then, and only then.

"Lv just measure your will to hurt and emotional distance nothing indicate is anything more."

That will starts to give you power, though. More HP.. Kind of like how determination works.

"What Frisk see during the genocide end is likely a projection made by Chara(by imagining themself in front of Frisk, so Frisk could see it as they both share the same body,so the same thoughts and dreams)"

Why can't they do that sooner, and why is that the only time they can act completely independently from Frisk?