Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20180104155430/@comment-28974149-20181001230413

TheHumanAmbassador wrote: By who? Toby Fox? Yeah, it's not Papyrus. It's not in all-caps. It's also not Sans, he doesn't use THAT much capital letters. I don't see what you're getting at.

By the way: Another factor in my lateness in replying is that since the Goner clam stuff reignited the mystery of the Bone bros' past I've been thinkin' bout them

Theorizin' like, we know whatever happened made Sans depressed, and we know that Toby in his tweet on the machine in Sans's lab said "neither of them" could fix the machine. And then there's "What do you two think?" and I wonder, where does Papyrus fit into all this?

Papyrus doesn't seem to be affected at all. The only connections we have when it comes to him and this is that he is implied to be a Gaster Blaster Caster like Sans and knows about Sans's time shananagins and other endings. But that's it.

Then it hit me with Papyrus' eyes.

In cartoons there is a trope called "Mad eyes" where to represent going mad or loony a Character is drawn with one eye bigger than the other. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MadEye

http://pixelartmaker.com/art/e03544c551fb3f6.png

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/undertale/images/c/c3/Cool-dude.png/revision/latest?cb=20151207170222

What if, similar to how Sans went into a state of depression Papyrus was driven to Insanity? His nonsense behavior is explained pretty well by Insanity.

Papyrus is always yelling (much like the Gaster we saw in ENTRY NUMBER SEVENTEEN which seemed to be loopy), he doesn't seem to be living in reality he doesn't sleep (sleep disorders are a symptom of mental illness, sleeping too much occurs with Depression.) he is a man child he seems honestly crazy.

If this is true it would be quite the bombshell for everyone's 1 dimensional lovable goofball that he was actually (like other characters) a complex multi-dimensional tragedy. Imagine the plot twist, Papyrus, Undertale's lovable mascot, has been INSANE the whole time!

Honestly when you think about it we know abosolutely nothing about Papyrus' past barring the last few weeks when he made that costume and decided to be a Royal Guard and also a Chef thanks to Undyne.

Maybe when Toby's Gaster related game ("shrouded in darkness" he callled it, interestingly when he talked about Gaster he said that we can't learn more about him as he is "shrouded in darkness" DARK DARKER YET DARKER THE DARKNESS KEEPS GROWING ) comes out(perhaps it's what the Goner Clam was talking about) which he talked about a while back and is in the KS, and which could only be a prequel due to the fact Gaster, Suzy, and the others are "Goners".

Goner - Someone or something that is doomed or cannot be saved.

(I added Suzy as seen by the card Sans wrote "don't forget." on indicating she is gone too and since we know Clam Girl who is actually Clam_goner is a gaster npc Suzy must not be a normal character either),

Maybe in this game we'll see a character that looks familiar, speaks a familiar typeface, but acts completely different. With no NYEH! to be seen.

It just goes to show that once again, Sans and Papyrus are the only characters in Undertale we cannot satisfy. At least Chara and Asriel find peace in pacifist!

But Sans and Papyrus? They remain depressed and crazy respectively and their machine is still useless. Remember what Sans said, "getting to the surface doesn't really appeal to me anymore, either" he isn't really happy. Sure he's happier but he isn't happy. Hell, we didn't even help Papyrus become a REAL Royal Guard or a master chef! ... You know, he's quite unsure of himself when you think about it.

"I MUST CAPTURE A HUMAN!" "THEN EVERYONE WILL"  "... "  -Lost Soul Papyrus.

It's like, he doesn't even know what he's *doing* anymore. ..

It also says something interesting about how much Sans really doesn't care about the situation he finds himself in. To respond to Papyrus' insanity with a lethargic "man, isn't my brother cool?"

"Neither of them could fix the machine no matter how hard they tried.  No one can." Toby "bad end" Fox.

-mkid_goner
 * Have you ever thought about a world where everything is exactly the same...
 * Except you don't exist?
 * Everything functions perfectly without you...
 * Ha, ha... The thought terrifies me.

" just give up, i did.   you'll never see em again. why even try?" "look, i gave up trying to go back along time ago." "don't forget." - Sans.

"TRULY, THIS IS THE WORST POSSIBLE ENDING" -Papyrus (lol not really a Gaster related quote but brings the point home.)

I am so captivated by this mystery and at last, we'll be closer to the answers. -Clam_goner''
 * So you never met my neighbor's daughter
 * But please don't despair. Because the time you will meet her...
 * ''... is fast approaching.