Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27905483-20160303005710

Just a thought i had recently.

The actually red soul you play in the game is not Frisk's soul, but Chara's soul.

After Asriel return to the underground and die, Chara's soul wasn't destroyed, but became a lost soul who now wanders in the underground. We all know that Chara desires to kill humanity, and his soul represent determination (every soul have a meaning, like the blue is patience, the orange is bravery, etc...). So, Chara is determined to kill humanity and he probably tried a new plan for every human who has fallen in the underground, a plan to escape the underground a kill humanity, he persuades, he guides... (like he does with Flowey and Frisk, he is that voice in Frisk [your] consciousness asking "nice, you got the happy ending, congratulations... But what would happen if you had killed everyone? just asking, know... you should try. You know you can always go back to your save file and fix everything again... [in this theory Chara's soul, after the good ending, still a lost soul but this time wanders the surface, this is when he says this things to Frisk). But of course he failed with the six past humans.

Then appears Frisk. Frisk is the last try for Chara succed, after all, if the monsters kill Frisk, they all go free and Chara will still as a lost soul. Chara is not fool, he's probably very wise, how many years is be wandering in the underground? how many tries and plans he had?

So this time he put himself on the line, cause he knows if he dies, Frisk will always go back to the save file. And for Chara succeed, Frisk can not die or be captured, so Frisk's soul can not be put on risk.

Then commence the evidences

1- When you lost a fight in the game, the soul is not captured, but destroyed, like when you kill a boss monster (Toriel for example, the soul of the player goes in the same way) If the soul of Frisk was destroyed then he would not be able to come back to the save file, he would be dead, gone forever.

2- The coffin with the name Chara is the one with the Red Soul.

3- When you lose a fight, in the game over screen appears something like "It can't end now, CHARA, stay determined" with Asgore voice, that was the words that asgore say to chara when he was ill and dying, how would Frisk knew about that? This is Chara dying for the second time and remembering the last words he heard when he dies in the first time.

4- At the end of the genocide run, Chara says that his determination was actually your determination, that means the many times Chara's soul was destroyed through the gameplay but you, Frisk, always return to the save file, always being determined.

Some more things. Accepting the things i said above, probably every human that falls in the underground have the ability to save/load, but when killed and captured they lost that ability. That's why Chara put himself on the line for Frisk, he is the last chance and if Frisk is killed and his soul captured, Chara will faill.

Chara's lost soul also speak with flowey, as flowey tell to frisk in the genocide run, that he had tries every possibility in the underground... kill everyone, be friend with everyone.... This is probably Chara encourage Flowey to do this things, probaly Chara trying to discover how to escape underground and complete his plan, but with Flowey he also fail.

At the end of every Neutral run Flowey tell you how to get the Pacifist end. This is because after all this time, Flowey and Chara become friends and Flowey trust in Chara, who tell Flowey to say to Frisk how get the pacifist ending, because that is Chara's last plan: make Friks do the pacifist end, tease Frisk to do the genocide and after that, Frisk will do the pacifist again to fix things, And we all know what happen in a pacifist pos genocide end. Chara succeed.

I thing when the souls are used to destroy the barrier, they are destroyed too, like sacrificed, this justify why then Chara don't take the 6 souls plus his soul to destroy the barrier, he want Frisk soul, this way Chara persist alive and in the end gain a empty vessel, Frisk body, to live in the surface.

I think this theory also agree with the theory  of Chara be the narrator. Chara is a lost soul in the underground who is capable to talk to Frisk

I think thats it!

Thanks for reading and sorry for any english error, is obvious not my native language. 