Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-32182236-20190114000922

Alright, I'll be making another post to compliment Malice's while you're still thinking about how to respond.

--About the Physicalness of Items In Battle--

The items are indeed still physical. That includes in my take. If you read my initial explanation (which STILL hasn't changed), you'd know that in my take, the ITEM button directly absorbs the magical component of the item. Items heal instantly, you know:They have to have some kind of healing magic to create this effect. So, if the SOUL were to simply absorb it directly, it could heal by that manner-And that's what it can do with the help of the Item command. Afterwards, the item becomes useless, so it's removed from the list, and is promptly tossed at the end of the battle so Frisk has more room for more items. (And obviously, if Frisk eats it on the overworld, the magical component is absorbed, since, you know, the whole thing was.)

There's no problem here. I've already explained this so-called problem LONG before you brought it up. Remember? And then you asked for MERCY and ACT, so I set out to explain those? All the information I gave in that explanation still holds true, and it explains many of the problems you think exist in my HUD model.

--Nitpicking--

A problem is a problem, Tssykx-No matter how small. Relativity was made to solve a very small problem, and it turned out to be right. We need EVERYTHING to be correct.

--SOUL power?--

I'm with Malice:You STILL have yet to give that claim foundation. But since losing all of your DT means you die, not ALL of your pargraph is invalid:So I'll respond to the remining valid point:Using up all your DT?

With a littlebit of math.

During Omega Flowey, Frisk had less than X HS of DT. (6<X<12 since Omega Flowey had 6 human SOULs, and Flowey had injected determination, from a possible source of 6 human SOULs, some of which was also given to the Amalgamtes.). In Asriel's fight, Frisk had more than X+Y HS of DT (Y is the HS equivelant of all the monster SOULs)

Let's say for a moment that X=6.5, and Y=1.

Let's also say Frisk had 5 HS of DT diring Omega Flowey, and 8 after the boost. That's not even a doubling.

Why can't the cuttoff for REFUSE then be at 7, or 7.5? That puts Frisk clearly unable to REGUSE during OF, and clearly able to in Asriel's fight with DT left over.

Next, we have to talk about DT magic.

Determination is a magical substance. And it can be used to perform all kinds of feats. But it doesn't actually go away when used. You can think of it like this:Having 1MB of RAM doesn't let you do very much, right? You need MORE to run modern programs. But is the RAM literally going away, or is it just currently in use?

If you have the capability to lift 300 pounds, does that mean once you lift something that weighs 150 pounds, you only have 150 left to use? No, that would be silly! You can just only lift 300 at a time! The muscles simply aren't strong enough to do more than that! DT's a similar concept.

--Why doesn't Asriel respond?--

Malice gave a good reason, but I have another. So now you have TWO reasons you have to try and debunk.

Really, it wasn't important at all. In fact, you aborting the Genocide Route (the example you gave) was FAR more important! You went across the path to kill everyone like Flowey wanted, then you betrayed that path! He didn't expect it, and he commented on it, and it had a great effect:Genocide was aborted. Here? You either accomplish absolutely nothing (reload), or literally do Asriel's job FOR HIM (reset). So it's massively different here. Once again, why should he comment on this?

(And don't forget about Malice's reason! It's valid too!)

--A Message to Malice--

Actually, Malice, OK:KO is canonically a cartoon. (S2E7:Your World is An Illusion) Then again, this was also revealed in S1E42:Let's Watch The Pilot, and everybody seemed to just forget it, as KO had to learn his world was an illusion, when he SHOULD already know this from S1E42, and has no reason to be surprised, so maybe the show just isn't very consistent. Either way, it's a bad example. We need a better one.