Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-33883848-20190724190709

Before Narrator Chara theory became a thing ,the most popular headcanon about Chara was that they represented the player's curiosity and/or their lust for power from all role playing games.It still very popular amoung some fans even nowadays ,so it's a perfect opportunity for me to point out some of it important flaws and maybe to debunk it.

The first flaw is it important lack of evidences since the most important proof it supporters use is the misconception that the creator asked us to name Chara after ourselves but in reality Toby Fox NEVER asked it:the line where he did so was taken out of it context as Toby Fox right after stated "if you can't think of anything else"and that naming them after your cat is as much valid,so since this argument is debunked,the most important flaw of this theory is it important lack of solid evidences but of course that's not the single one..

The second flaw is that Chara themselves does not understand our completionist tendencies: Chara call the feeling that push us to kill everyone again "perverted"and admit they can't understand it.If Chara was supposed to represent our completionist desires,why would they call the player's completionist feeling a "perverted "one and aknowledge that they don't understand it?With this mind ,it's hard to defend the idea that they represent completion,or at least this kind of completion:Chara could in fact represent our lust for power but it only argument is one vague line taken out of it context and Chara appears to speak to Frisk during their dialogue as they don't take "our soul"(it isn't even in the game wtf)but Frisk's,in this case it unlikely that they would admit to Frisk that they symbolize the player's RPG's completionist tendencies since it would be kinda pointless and odd(and the japanese version of this line is "what YOU felt when numbers increased"which indicates that it wasn't the player who felt them when they increased their numbers but Frisk,which directly contradict it supposedly META nature ).If they really symbolize the player's lust for power,it's also unlikely that they would ask us to take "another"path instead of another genocide run since the latter one is the only way to maximaze our stats,without mentioning that stats have a different purpose in Undertale (since they aren't meta and make sence within the narrative).So how else could we explain this line??Keep in mind that it's Chara name that appears when you check the stats,meaning that those are their stats and that Frisk increase Chara's stats by increasing their own ones,so it seems like by "every time a number increases that's feeling,that's me Chara" they are trying to say that Frisk increases their stats by increasing their own and thus explain how both became "stronger"together even though Frisk was the one killed most of the monsters.Bold text 