Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31619784-20170328162322/@comment-32182236-20180421103632

Sirbus wrote: All you are doing is quoting genocide run chara's lines. But my challenge was that genocide chara's motivations completely clash with everything we have ever been told about non genocide chara, except asriels single statement that chara wasn't really a good person.

Furthermore if we are talking about pre genocide chara then his purpose was seemingly the free the monsters, which required getting stronger. Hence why he killed himself and gave his soul to asriel. We can tell he wasn't exactly a good person because he was then off to kill 6 other humans, but the game gives you plenty of reasons as to why he might do that even if he wasn't evil.

Next chara didn't destroy the world. Wind doesn't whistle in a vaccuum. It does however whistle in an empty cave. A cave that was empty long before chara hit it for a screen of 9's.

I didn't say they destroyed the world to punish you. That wouldn't make any sense anyway, except for the fact that the genocide end and its subsequent soulless playthrough are both designed to punish the player by tobi fox ( a reminded that you can't fix what you did(though it is easily fixable itself)).

My point was Chara the character as far as its backstory can tell's goal was to destroy the barriers and free the monsters. It takes your (frisks) soul in order to regain control at the end of the true pacifist route and presumably do just that and then laugh's like a maniac (likely garunteeing a reset).

Narratively i feel it would make a lot more sense if flowey punished you for a genocide run and chara was written into the true lab part of the pacifist route. But that is just my opinnion. I was actually responsing to the OP, that asked how/why Chara destroys the world, and why they ONLY destroy the world in a Genocide Run. This is the question that I was answering-They only do it when there is nothing left, because they want to maximize EXP. And, I answered why Chara didn't just destroy the world anyway in a Pacifist Run after realizing Frisk isn't going to kill anyone. They BECAME strong.

Now, let's talk about the two Charas.

Yes, Chara HAS indeed changed between their death and resserection. Now, Chara is the narrator, and I prove it here. Now, why was Chara brought back to life? You. Your power awakened them from death. Noting about a SOUL. In fact, they can take our SOUL, which means they're no longer truly a human. They cannot understand the feelings of "perverted sentimentality" anymore. The evidence seems to say that Chara has no SOUL.

And Chara having no SOUL is only HALF the explanation. After all, they don't try to be good right when they come back! To say that they're like Flowey and that being it therefore wouldn't work-Sure, they started out confused about why their plan didn't work, but after that, their story is totally different than Chara's. So.. We must ask again, what happened?

Well, considering that they realize their reincarnation was about power AFTER they were confused about their plan, there's a pretty good chance that it has something to do with that. So, let's take a look at these events from a new perspective. Perhaps one that matches Chara's.

Chara comes up with a plan to gather SOULs to free the monsters. And we know they hated humanity. Now, Asriel had been wondering why, though Chara never stated directly. But, this time, they were foing to show Asriel the answer to that question. When they took their own body to the holden flowers, they knew the humans would attack. This was to serve as a demonstration of how humanity is like-They attacked Asriel.. But.. He refused to fight. To the point that he got them both KILLED.

Now, they awaken.. SOULless.. Only thanks to Frisk. A monster got them killed.. A human awakened them. Strange, is it not? At least, to Chara it must be, considering their previous views on humanity and monsters.

All because of Asriel.. Who they thought their friend was.. All because of a monster.. Asriel betrayed them. This would begin to lead to feelings against monsterkind as well, just loke with humans-The fact that we ended up awakening them, something they might see a monster doing back then, only speeds up their conclusion. Monsters are just like humans..

So.. What purpose was their reincarnation for, then? Well.. If both races are corrupt, then, their purpose would be to eradicate them, right? ..To gain power..?

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