Talk:Surface/@comment-29493275-20160927020801/@comment-35640811-20180107203554

Oof I wrote this a while ago.

I’m not exactly wrong, that’s just your opinion.

“Asriel died AFTER the war between humans and monsters. That is not why the war happened. It happened because of monsters' ability to absorb humans souls, as seen in the Waterfall paintings. The monster depicted cannot be Asriel, as these were made before Chara fell (otherwise the monsters wouldn't think humans can't fall underground when writing them).

A monster likely absorbed a human soul before the war, which lead up to the war, out of fear of extinction.”

Is there any evidence that Asriel died after the war?

I - War between humans and monsters starts. Not a single SOUL is taken, and countless monsters dies... M-M-M-M-MONSTER KILL! II - Remnants of monsterkind it trapped behind the barrier. No one in and no one out. With exception of small children and river of garbage. III - Chara falls into Underground, dies and their soul is absorbed by Asriel - first known canon ship is born. IV - Incident occurs in village - Chasriel dies. V - Bad at history king Asgore Dreemurr declares war on humanity - that's politics! VI - Several children falls into Underground and dies. Alphys performs experiments on their remnants and after that their souls are added to king's private collection in his dark basement... VIIa - Player Frisk Mute, blankly, child falls into Underground, reunites with Chara and the World is send to hell. Player: Wait, what? VIIb - Handicapped child falls into Underground, befriends everyone and after that barrier is destroyed. Player: Yay, happy ending! Now troops can easily purge entire place. VIII - Your post. IX - My response. X - Future - coming soon =]

Chara falls before the war.