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GiverOfThePeace wrote: Prueba22 wrote: GiverOfThePeace wrote: Prueba22 wrote: GiverOfThePeace wrote: KR being karma makes far more sense, especially since UT has shown it's acryonyms can stem from a single world. Randomly assuming "karmic retribution" is worse since the game clearly calls it karma. UT has shown its acronyms can stem from several words too, so that argument is 100% invalid.

The game calls karma to the damage you are suffering, the skill causing that damage may have a different name, like "bio" causing "poison" damage in Final fantasy.

The game never calls  the KR  karma.

It calls the damage it causes karma, its a huge difference. Funny how you never show an example for those several word acryonyms. The burden of proof falls on you to show that. The game also never calls KR karmatic retribution. You're attemtping to grasp at straws. The minute you start taking damage KR appears, so KR clearly correlates to the damage taken, occam's razor. LOVE "level of violence" several words in a single acronym.

EXP "execution points" several words in a single acronym, i didnt say examples because i considered them obvious for anyone who played the game.

The game never details what KR means. But its directly related with KARMA damage (adressed as such, it loads you with karma points) and that justify the K of the KR acronym, and we are left with the R.

Given the dictionary definition of retribution, i think it fits nicely.

The minute you start taking damage, you start suffering karma retribution, it correlates to the damage, as you well said, occams razor.

(even if you worded in such a thing its hard to know if you agree or disagree with me, the example you pointed helps my point nicely) Show once where the game states "You're suffering karma retribution" rather then just "Karma" or you cannot use occam's razor for that because that's a random headcanon assumption you made.

Clearly I disagree, literally none of my points helps your point your own examples amps my point for my KR = Karma. The acronyms you used mind you are far larger then KR, LOVE is a 4 letter acronym, EXP is a 3 letter acronym, so as we see:

LOVE= Level Of ViolencE uses 3 words and one of the words the acronym uses 2 letters for.

EXP = EXecution Points uses 2 words and one of the words the acronym uses 2 letters for.

Are you getting the pattern?

KR = KaRma

Your refute requires accepting a headcanon as canon to even get your point across, KR clearly means just Karma. Karma is the number of karma points that you have that are gradually deduced from your HP.

KR could refer to that, or to the name of the power/magic causing that kind of damage.

A skill called poisoned blade (an actual skill from another game) could have a descriptive text when hit of "poison cursing through your veins" that does not mean in the slightest the skill have to be named poison just because the kind of damage inflicted is actually called poison, same with karma (the type of damage inflicted) and KR, the power causing that kind of damage, that could be called karma or something entirely different albeit related.

LOVE, 2 out of 3 words have only 1 letter in the acronym. Also its an acronmyn with SEVERAL  words

Exp, 1 out of 2 words having just one letter in the acronym.. Also an acronym with SEVERAL words.

If something, having a single letter representing an entire words seems to be MORE COMMON than hacing 2 letters, not less. Also, EVERY SINGLE ACRONYM IN THE GAME IS COMPOSED OF SEVERAL WORDS.

Are you getting the pattern?

over half of the words in canon acronyms are represented by a single letter.

With still leave us with a word after "Karma" in KR.

Could it be "Karma Revenge" it could be, but giving that sans is not actually getting revenge, but punishing you and judging you for your acts, it would make way less sense than retribution.

Could it be just "Karma", it could be, but it would be the only acronmyn in the game with a single words, so its very doubtful. There is no exception to undertale acronyms, why should this be different?

Could it be "Karma Retribution", it could be. Of course its not confirmed as canon, NOTHING is confirmed as canon for the KR acronym, i could use the exact same argument against you, because other than the game stating KARMA  as the damage, we have nothing. Everything we have is speculation and assumptions. And that Karma is at least aprt of the acronym. So it boils down to what make more sense, and for me, its retribution. Not because its an axiomatic truth or because its canon confirmed, but because it make more sense that being a one-word acronym in a game with no one-word acronyms or the R being revenge when its not a revenge at all.