Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34798955-20180310144518/@comment-33883848-20190530151441

There's more than just those two points of view. "I consider Chara an anti-villain, getting corrupted... By the death of Asriel. Not by us, but by Asriel's "betrayal" of Chara. Hence, when it comes to the poison, I agree that Chara found no joy in that (except maybe a nice pun) "

if they feel betrayed by Asriel since the start,why dont they show any hate or anger towards him outside the geno run even when they realize that hes asriel???and how a single betrayal can make them hate all of the monsterkind??and if they hate monsters why dont they provide any kill count since the ruins to manipulate us to kill and why dont they want you to do genocide again??(theres no evidences that anyone besides frisk friends die in the soulles pacifist end).And chara themself says that they didnt understand why they came back to life and was "confused"until YOU showed them the Reason of their reincarnation

"(Besides, think about it, if they had full control over you, and makes Frisk be evil in cutscenes, why don't they make you fight? They attempted to fight in Asriel's body.. To make Asriel fight. This really just makes a big plot hole.) "

yes,if they really hate all monsters now why dont they take over frisk to kill them all???

"Chara DID care about Asriel, but their hatred of humanity was stronger than their love for Asriel. They wanted Asriel to agree with them about humanity. They made it clear they hated humanity, and Chara was going to show Asriel that reason directly... By making the humans attack for basically no reason at all."

HELL NO theres no evidences that they took it on purpose and to convinvce that humans are evil it would way easier for chara to explain why they hate al of humanity(and it appears like chara already convinced that the surface sucks as showed by asriel flowerbed dialogue) .And why would they specifilly put their dead body on the flowers isntead of directly giving it to the humans or at least showing it??? As i saod,its very likely that they wanted to bury their body on the golden flowers because they loved those flowers as evidenced by their Drawings,theres no Evidences that chara did it on purpose.

"Then, perhaps, the monsters would live in peace without the humans. "

having only 1/8 of control i doubt that chara could erradicate anyone,plus flowey still believes that chara only wanted to free the monsters even though he know that chara's actions would led to another war.

"But, of course, Asriel refused, getting the two of them killed, and that started a huge chain reaction which ultimately lead to Chara hating monsters as well"

wow,wow wow ,how a single betryal can led to a huge hate towards a whole race??and dont use their h