Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-27136653-20170813215051

2) It's a developer's room. It isn't a part of the plot and should not be interpreted that way. And about the humans, we don't see them, but that doesn't prove there aren't any at all.

3) But they didn't eradicate them out of hatred, as I've explained. Hate played a role in it, but it was nothing personal. By "enemy", they were probably referring to Undyne, Sans, or Flowey. Perhaps all 3 of them.

3.3) The red soul is most likely the reason they share it in the first place. And how can it be a tie? It would have to be a big conincidence for it to be an exact tie.

My explanation for this is that when Frisk came to the underground, they didn't get these powers immediately. I don't know what would have given them to Frisk (perhaps the very first save point), but Chara's essence undoubtedly did bind to their soul immediately. And since Chara already did have a save file (I mean, why wouldn't they, they have the same soul as Frisk, and there are also some extra unused pieces of dialogue in the game's code indicating an alternative death for Chara), it means that Frisk's soul latched onto that save file. But of course, it wasn't an entire save file. Just the data in it, like Chara's name, their LV, and everything that a save carries. It just wasn't an entire save file, since they had no soul. But this data still got ported over to Frisk's save file when they interacted with the first save point. This gave Frisk control, since they were the ones with a soul, but the data was Chara's. Now, I know that since Chara had no soul, these stats wouldn't be showing Chara's development, but they grew nonetheless, meaning the save file was getting its data both from Chara's essence, AND from Frisk's soul. Chara's essence provided the basis, and Frisk's soul kept updating it upon each save.

3.5) I honestly don't know what exactly happened after Chara did what they did. I just know that one human soul is not enough to do that kind of damage. And we WERE denied an access to the game. And Frisk most likely got denied an access to the world at the same time. Doesn't matter if Chara knew they were in a videogame or not. They did something, and now Frisk can't return from the black void. Whatever they did, it seems more plausible than the destruction and then a subsequent recreation of the entire reality.

3.6) "Yo your one hot hotbaby", "Alphys gives u a kiss,", "YOur cute,", "THEN SHe Kisses YOu".

That's Frisk right there, since it's not Chara obviously. So, if they can add options to choose from, then the narrator must too, since they've been narrating them this entire time. (WHY is there some sort of an insult option each time we meet someone from Snowdrake's family?) And so, I'd say that when that option is there and we choose it, Chara narrates it, but since Frisk disagrees, the next time we choose it Chara goes against us, saying it's not funny. That seems dead simple.

3.7) But we never fought Flowey in the genocide route. Therefore  Flowey doesn't know that Chara is the narrator. And  I don't think he could have heard Chara asking others. I actually don't think Chara asks the monsters that way at all, maybe they just "see" the stats, but monsters can willingly "hide" them.

And no, Frisk doesn't see the world black, white and green. That's not how human eyes work. Unless you're telling me Frisk is a cyborg.

4.1) We are trying to explain the snow on the stations here. I'm saying it can't be teleportation, since what would Sans do if both Undyne and Papyrus decided to stay at the places where his stations are? Unless he can teleport them back and forth faster than a monster eye can register, the only explanation must be there's more than one station. There is proof of Sans teleporting very quickly, since there can't be two Sanses, but nothing says there can't be two stations too, perhaps duplicated and therefore glitched. I mean, that's not so weird. Why should Sans have only one weird power?

4.2) As I said already, despite everything, we continue walking towards Asgore's castle. Obviously Frisk wants to leave in the eyes of everyone. Toriel assumes so, and so does Undyne, Alphys and Sans. And Flowey too. He is the most suspicious one of them all. Of course he wouldn't let us leave, even if we explained that we weren't planning to a million times. He would still rather destroy Asgore's soul than risk it. He wants us to stay, he doesn't want to be alone again.

4.6) Pehaps Toby didn't notice it yet. And yes, Undyne did make this inconsistency. That is a correct observation. It wasn't Sans, or Frisk, or Gaster, or Toriel, or Chara, or Asriel, or Jerry, or any of the amalgamates, or Gerson, or Temmie, or Burgerpants. It was Undyne herself that created this inconsistency. But she doesn't know about it. And she can't recognize it as an inconsistency either, since she doesn't know that green = kindness. She just knows that while you're green, you can't escape.

4.10) Instead of trying to make the dead monster souls persist, use them directly by utilizing the power of the human souls. The power of the 7 is there.

4.11) First off, Chara is not a demon. They may call themselves that, but they aren't one. Similarly, they don't get awaked by someone calling them. Who would that be? Frisk? They didn't know nothing about them. We didn't either until learning the full story. So then, no one called Chara. They're just making that stuff up.

Second, why are you dragging theory of relativity into this? Galileo provided the first version of theory of relativity, and Einstein simply modified it so that it wouldn't break light paths during transformations. The first case obviously didn't work. But what about our case? Everything the battle interface has to offer can be explained without it. It works nonetheless. Ask me about anything from the battle interface, and I provide an explanation using overworld rules and logic, without the need of anything fancy. (Saves are a canon mechanic, no need to ask me about that.)

4.13) "<span style="font-weight:normal;font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,HiraKakuPro-W3,"HiraginoKakuGothicProW3","HiraginoKakuGothicPro","ヒラギノ角ゴProW3",メイリオ,Meiryo,游ゴシック,YuGothic,"ＭＳＰゴシック","MSPGothic","ＭＳゴシック","MSGothic",sans,sans-serif;font-size:16px;">HUD physically PREVENTS the monster from attacking your SOUL on your turn."

<p style="font-weight:normal;">How is it physical? And the monster could just attack the human body. Without it, the soul won't die, but no one wants to lose their body. And who said it is the soul touching the buttons? It could be Frisk's fingers too. And Sans's bones running over those buttons would therefore be striking their fingers (don't say that magic can't hit anything but the soul, Toriel's magic fire hit Flowey, so yes, Sans COULD hurt Frisk by striking their fingers). And Frisk can't reach those buttons anyways, because they concentrate on the attack. And yes, we did speak to Asgore. Many times. But after some time, he started ignoring it. We were using ACT to call for mercy at that moment, remember.

<p style="font-weight:normal;">5) Chara realizes Frisk didn't. They don't know about the player. You said it yourself, the player isn't an entity in the game. What's more, Chara may have went with the fact that Frisk chose to laugh, so they described them laughing, but then realized Frisk did not laugh. That's simpler.

<p style="font-weight:normal;">And why are you pulling their soul trait into this? I said traits, not a soul trait. By traits, I was referring to how you give your character in DnD traits. Which we don't do with Frisk. We don't even get to assign them a name. Whoever are we playing as already has a life, a backstory, and is someone other than us, not shaped by us (until we actually start playing as them), and not always acting like us (eg. heckling the amalgamate).