Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20181123023529/@comment-32182236-20181207004637

...That did not answer any of my questions, neither does it even acknowledge the alternate possibilities I mentioned. You assumed the reason Sans caused Flowey's fair share of resets was because Flowey messed with Papyrus, and not because he did his own Genocide Route.

"It all started because I was curious. Curious what would happen if I killed them."-Flowey.

"I've appeased everyone. I've killed everyone."-Flowey

Tell me, how do we know that Sans didn't watch Flowey kill Sans, and only step in as late as he did with Frisk?

Secondly, you failed to respond to the case of Sans' line being an apology for Toriel, for having to break the promise, then saying things like this is why he never makes promises (which he hates doing, based on his story in the MTT hotel). If it was indeed the promise, it serves as an additional reason to wait for Frisk.

So.. This was unconvincing.

By the way. People SAY that monster SOULs are made of love, hope, and compassion. But the true nature of SOUL is unknown. This isn't a fact. And, in fact, a plaque from Waterfall describes a monster with a human SOUL, and due to it existing alongside plaques saying that a human will never fall, it must have been made before Chara fell, and thus, before Asriel died. So there existed a monster with a human SOUL prior to the war. Tell me, how was THAT monster compassionate? (I'll just call them Kanashi for now, since that's Glitchtale's take on this monster.)

You see, this is a trend, but the rule is not absolute. There can exist a monster who is guilty, who has killed.

Oh, and Sans had a reason to kill Flowey. Just as Asgore had a "reason" to kill six innocent human children.

Anyways, Sans shows no sign of being strong. Absolutely everything that makes his fight hard is special magical abilities, not raw stats. In fact, he has only 1ATK, and can only deal 1 damage. The only reason why that becomes a problem is that KR allows invincibility frames to be nullified. If Undertale was an RPG, he'd be a powergamer, to the point where they'd be called a Munchkin in a tabletop RPG.

Oh, and Sans didn't enjoy killing Flowey or Frisk. So.. He's not as dark as you think he is. Kanashi was definitely darker than Sans ever was.