Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24100805-20160201152915/@comment-28517148-20181008183149

@Athenian200

''You can date one person of each gender... Papyrus and Alphys.'' Yes, YOU can. Which means that in at least one case, the relationship is potentially homosexual in nature, regardless of which gender we decide to interpret Frisk as. Child learns by observing and has tendency to repeat memorised behavior they have seen, including those restricted for adults. A child is able to date with someone, but they doesn't understand what they are actually doing except knowing they are just befriending/spending time with someone. That is because a child has neither mental/physical state nor knowledge/experience to establish a relationship you are talking about. They doesn't know what dating actually means, what its purpose is and they lacks of the urge to date someone. Therefore, such relationship can't be "sexual" in any way because a child is unable to be "sexual" in any way. They too young for that. Nevertheless, you decided to ascribe to a child an attribute they doesn't/can't have - a non-binary hetero/homosexualism. Why is that Mr. Athenian200?

And while that may be true in real life, this is a game, and I suspect the author may not be taking things like level of development/emotional maturity into account. Actually, the author of the game has already done it by calling characters he created children. Neither teenagers, nor adults. Calling someone a child is more than enough to describe their state of mental and physical development. Or maybe you do have different understanding of child term than widely-accepted one? Tell me aobut it please.

''I think that's a better question for the author of the game than for us. I didn't write the two of them like this.'' You didn't create those ambiguous and lacking in details characters, but you have filled gaps in their personalities and appearance with your knowlede and interpretations. You recreated them, you molded them to fit your preferences and expectations and confirmed your choice by naming those children non-binary hetero/homosexuals. That is why I am asking You and not the game creator. Why did he leave the gender ambiguous and have all the characters use "they" pronouns? For some unknown reason author decided not to reveal their sex: if Chara and Frisk are boys or girls. Therefore, pronoun "they" has to be overused to support this ambiguity, especially in language like english that has problems with implied subject, unlike ours where it is common. However, why do you think that pronoun "they" in this case imply child's gender like non-binary/gender neutral rather than support vagueness of the game and its parts? Why do they have a child "dating" someone in the game at all? I don't know what for "dating" option got into the game, but in this case I can interpret it only as befriending someone.

''I mean, the fact that the author uses ambiguous pronouns, along the "peaceful" method of defeating the Royal Guards strongly suggests that they would have no qualms about putting this in the game. If Frisk knows to tell that one guard to be "honest about his feelings," then clearly he does have a concept of what that means.'' We don't know what exact type of knowledge hidden behind general advise to be honest with feelings Frisk possess except to not be afraid. The fact of possessing some kind of knowledge doesn't make them automatically a non-binary hetero/homosexual, like you called them. Also, that way of defeating enemies is only one of many, which means the creator wasn't afraid of put it into game rather than to highlight character's tastes/preferences. It is rather part of the player's choices or illusion of choice since there are no options to chose from in case of "peacefully" defeating royal guards. Like in case of genocide, where calling Frisk serial murderer is a mistake since this route is effect of the Player's decision only.

So, why are you calling those kids non-binary hetero/homosexuals Mr. Athenian200, MagomaevaAmina, RainTheFan-Person, PublicMinority87 and others I'm too tired to call by their names right now?