Talk:Chara/@comment-31891274-20180105153045/@comment-32182236-20180210133805

They might not be optimistic or pessimistic at all. My real argument is that the line has no real meaning. Remember, I said “‘’’for all we know’’’, they said half-full instead of half-empty when no kills happened because the Underground is still FULL of monsters.” Just before that I said the line had no meaning. The line means nothing. Use better evidence than a commentary on a bag. Besides, if you kill all the Dogi and get “but nobody came” in Snowden (Basically, do what you do in Genocide, but you don’t need to Genocide the Ruins, so this can be done in Neutral), you get the same half-empty message, then “You just remembered something funny.” Since we killed everyone in Snowdin, it’s clear this is referring to that being funny. If Chara’s only evil in Genocide, we shouldn’t get this message in Neutral, but we can get it in Neutral. (Just don’t Genocide through the Ruins.)

Chara having some change of heart after sparing doesn’t work either, as you can spare all you want, but as long as you kill enough monsters eventually, the ending is still the same. But, if we say that Chara wants them all dead, but is okay with you showing them mercy to grind gold first....