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Here. Everything wrong with Judgement Boy’s Chara video (Plus the follow-up one)

First off, is Chara before they died. And actually, I agree with JB on pre-death Chara.. Except for one detail. Chara probably DID want to destroy all of humanity. I mean, they took their body to the flowers on purpose. Why would they want to do this, if not to attract attention from the humans? Of course, that was likely because of their hatred of humanity, and nothing more. Chara wouldn’t become fully evil until they re-awaken.

Yes, children are impressionable... Except we have to remember one HUGE detail on Chara:They hated humanity. Why wouldn't Chara take this as proof that humans really are the dispicable creatures they make them out to be? We're telling them to fight, but we're just more humans, murdering innocent monsters, just like what happened to Chara! Why aren't they, say, fighting US, but instead just accept what we're telling them? Also, JB is misreading the grammar of Chara's final speech in 15:30- It actually goes "Why was I brought back to life? You. With your guidance. I realised the purpose of my reincarnation." No comma after "your guidance." "your guidance" is how Chara was brought back to life, not how they realized the purpose of their reincarnation.

Now we have 19:30-"What ARE we looking for"?

Partner, I am here to begin the next phase of the plan. Take us to the next world to eradicate. ...No, I didn't say recreate this one, I said move on to the next. Chara?

Yeah, we probably came to actually move onto the next.

Next we move on to the follow-up video.

7:25-Actually, Chara ISN'T getting the LOVE we do. Chara's name being on the stat screen means that they too have the power to SAVE and LOAD. When Flowey tells Chara to let Frisk live happy, this is exactly what's going on! Chara getting our EXP doesn't make logical sense. Besides, if it was THIER LOVE that increased, then our stats wouldn't be increasing as a result! But they do-We are moving around Frisk's SOUL in battle, and taking damage, eating items..

9:05-And yet they have the power neccessary to stop us from giving more than one gift to Gyftrot? Pretty inconsistent here. They DO have a choice. Now only that, they actively ENCOURAGE you to kill everyone! Sections 1-8 of this nochocolate post explains what I'm saying in more detail: http://nochocolate.tumblr.com/post/144667969564/cooperation-not-corruption-the-effects-of-kill

15:40-The other characters do this, but Chara does not. Why isn't Chara saying anything like the monsters are? I do agree that we're told not to several times over, but NOT by Chara. Chara's just going along with it.. why?

In case you want to read my own Chara theory, here it is. http://undertale.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:135687