Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-32182236-20180703183228

MagomaevaAmina wrote: In the game the word "determination "isn't linked to the will to achieve goals,it been literally stated outloud that determination "is the will to live on "in the true lab.This is a "power"not a trait ,a power that every single living and concious being have.Its not exclusive to red souls.Also the others childreen had more determination than anyone(likely because they were facing death ),that why they had the power to recept as implied by Toriel"Every time a human fall here,i have an impression i already knew them".Which means that determination doesnt become a trait if anyone have more it than others traits.And i dont think that the recept power is related in any way with the barrier,after all Frisk can use this power even when they leaved the underground,even when the barrier is broken(true pacifist).So no its isnt exclusive to the underground and its not suprising that Flower possessed more determination than anyone else in the world,after all he has more determinarion than the amalgamates ,the ones who have "too much determination".

PS:If anythimg its is HEAVILY implied that red soul doesnt have any trait by the ball game,where its says "its a hole"in red.This is the single time that the charattor use red text in neutral or pacifist run and i dont think its a coincidence.I mean this is the single time when different colours are associated with traits ,so the "hole"is associated with the red souls.Which means that they lack of trait.But when Frisk use "perseverance ,kindness,etc"they develop their own trait,which is unknown for us,that why the why by using all the traits they literally "win the ball game",in others words they develop their own trait.Thats why also the "ball game"is associated with the red colour,because the whole ball game was about Frisk developing their own trait.But i dont think we must take it literally,its seems to be a methaphor of Frisk developing their own personality trait in the whole game Yes, the will to live is something everything has. Hence why I've said red can't be zero in my multiple trait theory.

Your dominant trait, what you have the most of, is what determines your color. If you're 40% Kind, 30% Determined, 25% Brave, and 5% Justice, kindness is your trait.

The monsters face death more than humans do. They're quite easy to kill, really. But yes, the other children are more determined-This is simply because monsters can't hold determination. (Though that may explain why they'll stop fighting after a few turns of just doing the right actions, even when it is their DUTY to fight-Case in point:RG-01 and RG-02)

By the way, the other humans remind her of Chara. You know, another human who fell into the RUINS, climbed the moutain despite (or because) of the legends, and was brought into HOME?

So, if the power isn't exclusive to the Surface (technically, we go back Underground-That's where Flowey is, and he tells us not to reset:Unless Chara really is the one who reset), and red isn't determination, then how was Frisk, and ONLY Frisk, able to overake Flowey's determination? And why did this happen when Frisk fell Underground, and no earlier? You might say Chara, which Frisk DID awaken by falling underground, but remember, according to their speech:"My 'human soul'. My 'determination'. They were not mine, but YOURS."

...They didn't have their own determination. Their essence was connected to Frisk, and they SHARED determination. Frisk doesn't suddenly have double determination.

By the way, red text indicates mood. "If you leave, they.. ASGORE.. Will kill you"-Toriel

Asgore was red in that dialouge. It indicates mood here, not a trait. After all, the yellow text doesn't indicate justice at all! And wait, is that PINK text? (For those of you who don't know, this is what happens if you turn the yellow names off, and then go to turn it back on.) Is the Pink trait of Fear a real thing after all?

Charrator doesn't color their text according to traits. Only the flags THEMSELVES do, and that's based on the flag colors.

Also, if they gained their own trait, and red was no trait, their SOUL color should change to reflect that. If they become kind, their SOUL should turn green. Hmm, why doesn't it?