Talk:Asgore Dreemurr/@comment-24203015-20151123124956

[The next thing concludes in point 7, skip to that if you want, it should be added to the Trivia]

Looking at the fandom "Asgore is a coward", "Asgore is boring", "Asgore was selfish"... Let's see how the thing went:

1) He has a wife, he has a son, war begins, they are defeated and inprisoned underground.

2) Kid falls in, family blooms, 2 kids and a wife, (almost)everything happy.

3) His f*cking adopted child commits suicide so the other child can kill humans in the surface and free them all.

4) His f*cking son get's fatally injured in the surface and ends dying in front of him and his wife, people are as grim as they can get.

5) He agrees to kill everyone that falls in the underground (be it an elderly man, a woman or a child) in order to become a god (thing that he didn't really wanted), free them all and give them hope promising war on the surface (even tho he doesn't even want to harm a fly). His f*cking wife says "f*ck you and your plan" and leaves him.

6) When he thought that everything was going to be OK, just one little soul away, he is faced with (what seems to be for monsters) the living replica of his adopted child, the one who f*cking killed themselves, like some kind of wandering ghost, knowing he HAS TO KILL THEM TO FREE THEM ALL, DESPITE BEING ALMOST A COPY OF HIS SON!.

[The last one needs explanation: if you do a netural run, spare asgore, kill flowey, then start another neutral run, and spare asgore again, this happens]

7) Knowing he has been defeated, waiting for the fial blow, he is spared by the kid. Surprised, he rambles about being a family, but... that's just a fantasy, he then tells the child to take his soul, go to the surface and search for a way to free the monsters. He isn't like "look for my ex-wife and tell her I'm sorry", no no, he is STILL THINKING ABOUT HIS PEOPLE, and that's the last he thinks, because he decides to kill himself to give his soul to the human.

Do people really believe such a character can be boring and selfish? A cinnamon roll on pair with Toriel, decided to carry on his duty against his will for the sake of his people, a coward?

Man I really feel bad for him, I hope he had more time on screen... if people knew more about him, they wouldn't be so hard on him...