Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-37334388-20190301031034/@comment-33883848-20190823191019

" Once in a while Gaster would ask Chara to be used in some of his experiments. One of Gasters experiments caused Chara’s Hate for humans to become an urge to kill humans."

Pff...nothing even suggest that Chara is related to Gaster in any freaking way.You all should STOP to use Gaster as excuse to explain everything odd in the game.Nothing even implies that Chara wanted to kill all humans ,here their plan if we ONLY consider what the game tells us and at face value:

"We'll be strong,we'll free everyone"

Their plan was to free the monsters ,not kill all humans.Without mentioning that the 6 human souls would prevent them to destroy humanity.And yes they tried to use their "full power "agaisnt the human village but that's probably to survive as it's said that the villagers attacked Asriel first before he tried to kill them.

" After that day Chara planned on their escape and they planned on ways to kill all humans. "

"Yeah!We'll be strong,we'll free everyone"-Chara's plan according to the game.

You could argue that it was a facade or something to destroy all humans but i would glad to see your evidences for that,especially that this idea is debunked by the game itself :) After all,they call their plan their AND Asriel's common plan,not their personal plan "OUR plan is failled right?"

" Chara then killed some monsters secretly in the hopes that they had boss souls"

1.Chara's stats indicate that they only has 0 exp,so no they did not kill anyone

2.hell,how would they ignore that only the dreemurs had boss monsters souls??

"Then Chara thought of killing Asgore. "

Cool,a simply shot with the intent to kill would be enough :)

"The crueler the intentions of your enemies are,the more their attacks would hurt us.If a being with a strong soul strike with the desire to kill....uh..let's end this chapter here"-Snowdin's book

" Chara instead of using butter, used buttercups, in the hopes that it would make him ill and kill him."

1.Why wouldn't they simply kill Asgore with any weapon instead of taking so much risks having Asriel as witness for their intention poisoning?

2.Buttercups AND cups of butter are homonyms and it can't be an accident,Chara AND Asriel confused them due to the fact that they have the same pronunciation

" It did make him ill but he recovered. At some point Sans became suspicious of Chara but didn’t say anything ( he was Gasters assistant )"

Nothing implies that Sans is even aware of Chara.

" but when he decides to kill, the idea wasn’t brought in his mind, Chara’s spirit told him to do so because apart of them still resided inside of Asriel’s dust, plus the determination. "

HOLY JESUS CHRIST,STOP TO HOLD CHARA RESPONSABLE FOR EVERYTHING BAD THAT HAPPENS IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE YOU FOOL!. Nothing even implies this and Asriel OUTRIGHT says that the whole kill or be killed was his OWN idea because his mercy only made him SUFFER

"This whole time, I've blamed myself for that decision. That's why I adopted that horrible view of the world. "Kill or be killed."-Asriel

Without mentioning that Chara's essence only resides in Frisk not Asriel.

"Chara’s Actual soul was used by Gaster to make the Core. "

Chara's soul was DESTROYED else there's no way for Frisk to have Chara's essence inside of them.Sure,there's a "Human red soul"in the True lab but pretty sure that Chara and Frisk arent the only beings in the world with red souls lol.

", and we awaken Chara’s Actual soul. "

Hell how does that even work if Chara's soul according to you power the CORE??You know that drugs is wrong and all right??

Plus humans CANT absorb human souls,thus Frisk COULDNT have absorbed Chara's soul.It was something else.It was their essence.Even Flowey expect Chara to come back souless:

"So,you're empty inside just like me .So in fact you must be Chara right??"-Flowey

"If you restart after doing true Pacifist, let’s say it was because Chara did it."

HELL STOP TO BLAME CHARA FOR EVERYTHING.Plus at the end of the true reset you still the one who make a true reset and Chara can do it themselves too as proven by the end if the genocide run.Player IS the one who do a reset and Flowey confuse think it's Chara because that's thw only option in his perspective as Frisk wouldn't take away their own hapiness

"Then they make you do Genocide so they can take your soul "

Do you mean:

"I'am a little baby who can't accept any responsability so i blame a fictional character for all the choices i make on my own will"?

"But they can’t overpower you until you reach the core/end, where their soul is strongest. "

Chara ALWAYS had the ability to overpower you ALWAYS despite the commom miscinception.After all they were the one who took over Aariel while they had no love and Asriel could take the control back WITHOUT love.It purely depends on one's own will.

"Once they take your soul, they restart in your body as you. At the end of the soulless Pacifist ending, you see chara is in your body and they go on to kill humans."

A ~10 old kid haunting a little ~10 old kid with a freaking knife < The whole freaking humanity composed of 7 billions of individuals with nuclear bombs,tanks,ultra trained soldiers,genuis scientists,fire weapons

"if that’s not what happened then at the end of genocide route, Chara realizes that Gaster used their soul for his experiments that caused them to be demonic. "

Is there's something that FORCE you to blame the most mysterious characters for everything bad that happens??

"Chara goes to alternate worlds that Gaster creates to find and kill him but instead runs into one of the worlds (Deltarune) as Kris and has no Determination, only Imagination. At the end they find their soul useless at the moment so they lock them up in a cage ( the soul is frisk )"

Toby Fox kinda said that Deltarune is NOT a sequel and doenst affect any ending you got,whatever it's pacifist or genocide run.So no Undertale Chara isn't present in deltarune.Kris is in control at the end of deltarune because they want to ripe off the soul that possess them