Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-27524978-20160317154321/@comment-28182542-20160411143113

Yes, Flowey recognizes Frisk as Chara later on in the Pacifist run. Like I said at the end of my post. And like I said there, it takes him way longer, and more importantly, he's wrong. He isn't wrong in the genocide route, he explicitly spells out his reasoning for thinking it's Chara, and he recognizes them immeidately.

On top of that, you're severely underestimating the severity of what Asriel is saying. Again, this is someone who loves Chara like a sibling. Someone who is sweet and kind and unwilling to pass harsh judgment. Look at how he describes his actions as a flower as being "weird stuff." He's not speaking as an objective commentator, he's speaking as a loving brother who doesn't want to disrespect his sibling's memory too much. And that's to say nothing of the "tried to get us to wage war against humanity" bit.

The "The player makes Chara evil but they can be good" theory only makes sense if you accept narrator Chara. Which is a fan theory, aka fanon. Fan theories are not necessarily wrong, but they're not indisputable canon either.

Honestly, I'm fine with portrayals of Chara that are more nuanced and complex than being pure evil. What I'm not fine with is the insistence that this is indisputable canon and that there's no support in game for them actually being a horrible person. I'm also tired of people trying to make Chara out to be the number one most important character in Undertale. Oh, they narrate the game! Oh, they named all the songs on the soundtrack! Oh, Once Upon A Time is actually Chara's theme, not the game's! Oh, Frisk doesn't actually have any quirky personality traits, or think of anything to do on their own, that's all Chara! Give me a break. ;)