Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-27524978-20160114233341

I know he talks about turning into a flower and once being able to feel emotion, having limbs ETC in the genocide path, but other than that he barely says anything relating to once being Asriel.

Things that I question:

-He doesn't recognize Frisk as Chara after the fight with Toriel unless they killed everybody in the Ruins.

-He also doesn't recognize Asgore and Toriel as his parents at all, seeing as he kills Asgore without remorse and calls them by their own names or his own insults (old fool,old hag, stupid king).

-If you spare Flowey, reload your save and defeat Asgore again, he'll mention only caring about one person/Chara but even then doesn't truly care about them. But judging by his speech near the end of Genocide, he sounds like he does truly care about them, saying a world without his friend is not worth living in.

- In the True Pacifist route, after Flowey ensnares Frisk's friends, he says that with the human souls reclaimed he can achieve his "true form". Then how come when he got the souls before, he turned into Photoshop/Omega Flowey,a plant-like eldritch abomination, instead of Asriel Dreemurr AKA his real self as the "God of Hyperdeath" (or rather close to that form since he didn't have all the monster souls at the time)? And in the neutral/imperfect route, he seemed pretty keen about taking Frisk's soul and killing every human and monster that stands in his way. Though he said that the one last thing he wanted to do was to use the human souls to "free everyone" in the genocide route.

Is this a plothole that Toby forgot about or is there something that I'm missing? I'd really like to know your thoughts, folks. 