Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-27136653-20171022202707

But it doesn't have to be stated within the game for it to be true. The dog represents Toby, which has been already established outside the game, and the stuff inside the room merely supports this. If it is said that the dog programmed some game, it obviously doesn't imply that the dog is Toby. So where did people get the idea that the dog represents Toby from?

When you know the answer to that question, you should ask yourself, is the annoying dog in the game the same annoying dog that represents Toby, or is it a different one, despite looking identical to the other one?

Twin dogs, or the same one? You cannot use the fact that the second option creates paradoxes as an argument, since that's something entirely different. We're asking whether the annoying dog in the game is tied to Toby Fox, nothing else. So logic tells us, that it's the simpler option, that they are one and the same, and THEN we build the rest of the picture.

You can't sacrifice the fact that the dog represents Toby for the sake of some puny paradoxes that arise if you don't do so. The paradoxes were meant to be there, it's a part of the joke here.

And "helping with animation" can also mean opening up some animating program and seeing how do the individual frames look like when played in a row. You still do not need to write lines of code to make them move. By saying Guzusuru helped with the animation, Toby did not mean that they helped him with the code. Isn't that obvious?

And besides, the line goes like this: "the dog accidentally programmed a whole game." This is saying that he did not program just some mod, or some hack. No, he made an entire game, but it doesn't say whether he did it alone, or whether he had any help. It just simply doesn't mention that. And the "accidental" part is just another joke. So I don't know what do you keep fighting about. It is obvious, the line is saying the dog programmed a game, without mentioning who, if anyone, helped, so you cannot say that the line is a lie, if it isn't lying about the thing you're saying it is in the first place.