Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20190617222636/@comment-26006155-20190804162238

Time duplicates are a common trope in time travel stories, where a future version of someone interferes with the life of their past self in an attempt to change the future.

It wouldn't be the future Frisk would be forgetting. He came here along with Gaster from The Other World. Frisk would be closer to Gaster than anyone, even his future self Sans.

For Frisk to completely forget about Gaster.. might force him to forget how he even got there. Who he even is. Sans would remember, but Frisk would be a mess afterwards.

Human souls from Undertale's surface still seem to have properties similar to those from The Other World. They have PSI, they can telekinetically move themselves, like we saw when they rebelled from Omega Flowey's control.

The two worlds are very similiar. Parralell perhaps. The game expects us to compare the world we're visiting to the one we know. And perhaps learn something from this world that's also applicable to ours.

It does seem important that only Elevator Voice and Flowey know Chara's real name. Does anyone else use it in the entire game? I don't think so.

Gaster would have met Chara.. in the Alpha Timeline. Before Sans went back and tried to change things, resulting in Gaster's early death before Chara arrived in the Beta Timeline.

Now we have to figure out what the interaction between Gaster and Chara was. And how somehow she, Sans and Gaster crossed destines.

I'm still pondering about how Asgore seemed to recognize Frisk immediately when they first meet, and he's taken aback by it. Yet when murderous Chara approaches Asgore after possessing Frisk.. Asgore can't tell what type of monster she is at all, and greets the Destroyer of Worlds calmly without alarm.

Something changed between those scenes. Even though both humans should look the same, Asgore is able to look into people to see what they're made of, it seems.

And my point that creativity has always been a part of Science remains.

The left brain can recreate experiments. But only the creative right brain can innovate, and dive into the uknown in search of hidden aspects of physics we're not yet aware of. Like what Einstein did with The General Theory of Relativity.

Sure, eventually, mankind would discover what the different numbers meant. But my point is that out of all of humanity, it was Einstein who actually did it. He must have been doing something right. And he did what he could to encourage creative thought and open-mindedness in other scientists, so humanity might learn faster as a whole.

Stifling creativity is what religion did to humanity during the Dark Ages, where questioning the church canon in any form was considered Heresy. The Renaissance and the science it brought helped erode that stranglehold so humanity could finally move forward.

And regardless of whatever beliefs Einstein may have had personally (his family was Lax Jewish, I think), his teachings have helped others find the real truth of the universe. So that we might never suffer the Dark Ages again.

Creativity might have created religions. But it can also free people from them.

As for the history of life in Undertale's universe, and the origin of monsters? We may never know.

This is a fantasy world, that may or may not have the same laws of physics that we're used to. It's a world hand-crafted by an artist to make a point, and tell a story.

A mystery writer has to do two things: Provide the reader with all the clues neccessary to solve the mystery before the ending. And also hide those clues as well as they can, to make solving the mystery as difficult as possible.

So we can't expect there to be a simple answer for everything. Mysteries by their very nature try to be as vexing as possible.

But we do know one thing: In the work of a good artist, the clues will be out there. And at some point, the artist themsevles had to point them out.

This is why I pause and scrutinize anything weird and overly-specific that turns up along the way. Things that might not seem to have a purpose at first.. but only because we don't know what to look for.

Take what we learned in the Steven Universe episode "Bubbled".

Eyeball the Ruby isn't impressed when Steven shows her his rose quartz gem. It looks like a dime a dozen, and Eyeball refuses to believe that Steven has the gem of The Rose Quartz, the legendary rebel general.

But once Steven heals Eyeball, suddenly Eyeball is absolutely convinced that what Steven is saying is true. And immediately tries to kill him, to be the one to defeat The Rose Quartz.

Not only is healing not a common ability of rose quartz gems.. but Steven's Mom seems to be the only gem capable of Healing in existance. All it took was a demonstration of this power to absolutely coinvince Eyeball of exactly whose gem Steven had. A clue Eyeball flat out confirms in The Trial, that nobody else can heal.

RQ's healing power was also listed as a major advantage The Crystal Gems had over The Great Diamond Authority during the war. It wasn't just a rare ability.. there wasn't a single healer in White, Yellow, or Blue's entire court, including the Diamonds themselves!

Only a unique gem would have a unique power. And there are only four unique gems that we know of: The Four Diamonds.

Steven's healing power, somehow, had to come from Pink Diamond.

A train of deduction, that all started with a few off-hand remarks by a Ruby.

In a mystery, the little details are often the most important things. Because they're where the artist hide the keys for unlocking the lore.

That's why I take issue when people immediately trivalize details that they don't understand. They're shooting themselves in the foot when they do this.