Talk:Chara/@comment-33949897-20171213021920/@comment-28517148-20171214102600

The problem lies in lack of definition of dying in Undertale and errors with consistency. This is what game is saying about human death (assuming these citations aren't any kind of bullshit): Then... One day... The human became very ill... The next day ... The human died. Theoretically, from this moment Chara should be dead from poisoning, but technically their (the same goes to all humans) power of their Soul allows them for this: ''But humans have one weakness. Ironically, it is the strength of their SOUL. Its power allows it to persist outside the human body, even after [their bodies] death''. This power will be later named by Alphys the Determination, right after she extracted it from several already persisting outside bodies human's Souls (entry #5). With ability to exist without body, Chara's Soul is taken by Asriel: ASRIEL, wracked with grief, absorbed the human's SOUL. Here are details about that: ''when Chara and I combined our SOULs together... The control over our body was actually split between us. They were the one that picked up their own empty body. And then, when we got to the village... They were the one that wanted to... ... to use our full power. I was the one that resisted'' - Asriel. He is describing here two different, fully aware and acting by their own beings sharing the same body, while one of them has form of heart shaped human Soul that has been taken out their own body just moment ago. Add to that Flowey's words: ''See that heart? That is your SOUL, the very culmination of your being!'' and we have conclusion: - removed from body human Soul is still a self-aware living being possessing memory, free will and determination, things required to be fully functional human being (mind: logic, memory; emotions: emotional states, personality; free will: making independant decisions) - to permanently kill the human you need to shatter their Soul because destroying only their body is not enough to achieve that This is nature of the human Soul, the reason why suicide term doesn't fit in here - Chara has never died, their Soul has never shattered. To add insult to injury: inspecting the Stats page reveals name of the fallen child, the first that fell to Underground. Let's say it is the true name - Chara. Below are bunch of stats like LV, HP and such. Gaining levels or LV results in increasing of HP that are dropping whenever that heart shaped Soul takes damage. Add to this: ''Together, we eradicated the enemy and became strong. HP. ATK. DEF. GOLD. EXP. LV. Every time a number increases, that feeling... That's me. "Chara." That's Chara's Soul, not Frisk's. That's why they can take control during Genocide, that's the way they are providing narration''. Chara's Soul has never shattered. Therefore, they never died and are still alive.