Talk:Eight Humans/@comment-37376673-20181114015231/@comment-35615238-20190127212840

The game never explicitly states that Determination is the red soul trait. In fact, it could not even be related to the SOUL itself, because Flowey is alive from DT, but he doesn't have a SOUL. Also, Alphys was able to extract determination from the other SOULs, but nobody was ever able to extract stuff like Patience or Kindness, because those are different.