Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20180104155430/@comment-35397985-20180920001412


 * Well, here I go. As a member of the CPS, I can't really say they're evil, but I certainly can accept that they might be.


 * We don't kill Flowey automatically. That could mean that Chara's holding back, because Flowey, after all, is Chara's best friend.


 * We don't know if the Chara we see at the end of the Genocide Run is the Chara that Asriel knew. For all we know, that Chara we see could very well possibly be a manifestation of determination that brought Chara back, but then proceeded to limit them to evil.


 * But why was that determination created? Well, I might have an answer. When you kill MTT NEO after killing everyone in hotland and proceed on to NEW HOME, we see red text, which may very well be Chara. So, after killing the power of neo, the Determination!Chara may very well be close, but absent from Frisk. But, if you fail to exhaust said counter then fight NEO, he states you were 'HOLDING BACK.' So, the Determination!Chara may very well have been stopped.


 * But there's one more factor to this. SANS. After you kill Sans, the Determination!Chara would likely be 'almost there' to appearing physically. And by killing Goat Dad and Goat Flower, you gave it just enough strength to appear physically.


 * Determination!Chara might have erased the world because they were in pain. You gave them your SOUL, effectively ending their pain, but starting Frisk's.


 * The Chara that Asriel knew is... a bit of a mystery, to say the least. All we know is they fell Underground, got adopted by the Dreemurrs, got Asgore sick by accidentally adding buttercups in that cake, poisoned themselves and died, got Azzy killed, and that they hated humanity.


 * The player could very well be the villain, as well as the hero.


 * I can't lie, they probably tested with the buttercups to see what they could do.


 * So to conclude, the Determination!Chara is certainly evil, but as the Chara that Azzy knew, is a Not enough information.


 * okay, that's the end of the theory.