Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-32182236-20180820162202

"https://actualdragoninreallife.tumblr.com/post/133988855657/i-think-another-thing-to-note-about-the-whole-but

Feast on that."

Looks like I have another big thing to analyze, then! It might even be as big as the time I went over all the flaws in Judgement Boy's videos about Chara. ..Luckily, it's as a post, so I can use the same style that I use here anyway.

"but aside from those exceptions, and possibly a few others i’ve forgotten (doggo and the married dogs too, i suppose), most of the monsters in the game just kind of wind up wandering into you, or approach you in a way that is not “i’m here to murder you.” tsundereplane has a poorly-handled crush on you and her attacks are like, trying to bump into you then act like she didn’t and you’re crude for suggesting such a thing."

The problem here isn't just the bullets. It's the fact that you can't use MERCY right away. You don't seem to understand what my reasoning was. My reasoning is that if you can't use mercy, the monster wants to fight. And the Froggit supports this information. Also, yes, they "wander into you". Pretty sure a commoner doesn't always know where the human is:In order to meet up with the human, they have to just end up near the human by coincidence. But.. There are some strategies. Note that monsters from a particular area STOP encountering you once you've moved onto the next. Why? Well, perhaps knowledge of THAT proportion WOULD be heard. That the human passed Papyrus, that they passed Undyne.. Which would get them to stop looking in all the places before then, assuming the human is always progressing forward. I do believe Tsunderplane has some crush, but it seems that isn't quite enough. Then again, this particular monster doesn't even aim directly AT your SOUL, which means it's almost certain that the only reason why it's "attacking" you is because it feels it HAS to. Because of Asgore's declaration, and on its own, doesn't really want to fight (since, you know, crush.) That's why all it takes is ONE (that's right, one) case of you getting in the green zone for mercy to come by-Tsunderplane was already fighting about whether or not to fight, you could say.

"vulkin genuinely wants to help you and believes that they are, and if you tell them that’s not the case then they’ll stop! (and if you continue criticizing them and frickin call them a Trash Rump, they don’t retaliate, just continue to be sad and not try to “help”)."

Vulkin, I think you got your bullets mixed up. ("You're hurt! I'll help!" would imply their "help" is trying to heal you. That or he's lying, but it's not just to represent himself, which means it's not as the book said.. And BOTH of these have a lot of issues:And none of them have flat-out contradictions, but still. One is that Vulkin is consistently shooting out white bullets thinking that they're green ones, while the other begs the question:If he's tricking you to kill you, why does he stop? ...The former is somewhat more plausible though, especially when you consider how the plaques literally contradict each other, and literally NOBODY critizised Asgore's plan and mentioned the idea of taking six SOULs from the Surface.)

"shyren literally tries to avoid you but you somehow run into her anyway, and the only time her “attacks” start to become dangerous is when you’re on tour performing together, being bandmates and having a good time (which is totally optional - you can spare her after humming once)."

Complete bogus. Her attacks deal damage even at the very start.

"and of course, YOU are the one who initiates contact with napstablook, and the only thing they do to damage you is… cry. literally just tears falling at you"

Which he doesn't even know does damage if we believe them in the Mad Dummy fight. But that particular encounter raises suspicion:They were crying before they arrived, but not after they realized he make a "mistake"? Still, though-I DO believe that this particular encounter was at least somewhat justified-Because yes, YOU are the one who initiated it, by literally trying to move them with force.

"woshua just wants to clean you up, and soap and water are not typically deadly items (and if you ASK woshua to clean you, some of the water becomes safe, healing bullets, whether through woshua’s happiness or the magic of consent or whatever)."

That's just it. That's a contradiction. If you ask Woshua to do it, THEN some become green. So Woshua KNOWS green is what cleans you. So.. what's the white for again? (Also confirms she wasn't trying to clean you before:Else asking for clensing wouldn't change a thing. "Your SOUL is unclean" is all they say. And that's if you've killed a monster before.)

As for Icecap? As I said, the point is not that bullets EXIST, but that they're aimed directly at you, deal damage, and, most convicting of all.. They won't even let you spare them at first! And since the Froggit says if the monsters don't want to fight, you are to use MERCY.. That means if you are not to use MERCY, but to still ACT ("If you ACT a certain way, or FIGHT until you almost defeat them.. They might not want to fight you anymore"-Froggit), that means they don't "Not want to fight you". Therefore, they DO want to fight you. THAT is my proof!

Migosp's original wrong crowd, the reason why the encounter happened in the first place, then, clearly DID want to kill you. This one isn't aimed at you, and you can spare them at that point! So at that point, they "don't want to fight anymore".

And with the original arguments gone, the conclusions drawn from those arguments crumble as well, and everything beyond there builds off of what was above. So, the whole thing crumbles, and that's all I have to say.

..I guess it turned out to be shorter than my analysis of Judgement Boy's videos.