Talk:Eight Humans/@comment-26432906-20160223034107/@comment-4991168-20160223144110

Well, there's also the extra heroic power that Undyne has.

But, yes. The way I see and understand it :

- Red soul color is indirectly implied to be the color of a soul with a very high Determination, but it's never confirmed.

- Flowey does have more determination than a regular human, because it's literally the only trait he has (he was created as an empty vessel through Determination extracted from human souls, and later recovered some of his own Determination to reset during his attempted suicide, making him the person with the most Determination.

- Until Frisk fell, Flowey had all the save abilities. He'd be able to reset to the time he was created, though I have no idea how many humans it could've saved from dying (not all of them, at least, as Alphys used Determination from human souls to attempt to create Flowey in the first place).

- It's possible some human that came down had the save ability until Flowey's creation or until they felt worn down by the events in the Underworld, yes.

- Chara was able to save almost certainly. In my opinion, he lost that ability when Asriel managed to hold him back from killing humans on the surface (a.k.a Asriel momentarily had more determination than Chara), killing them both, or Chara's determination has worn down later on. It's also possible the save mechanic simply *doesn't work outside of the underworld*, or stops working the moment the soul fuses with a monster.