Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34020894-20190316142726

'''Hello there you beloved fanfic and AU writers. You remember back in the early fandom, where people really want to revive asriel(and by some extent chara) and have to figure out ways to do so. You know who you are. Most of the times its by frisk giving their soul like Dreemurr Reborn or a donation of souls like Flowey’s Birthday. Well today i'm gonna give all you writer out their some few ideas and examples of resurrected asriel (and/or chara) and flaws with common interpretation'''

Flaws with soul-sharing:

'''While i don’t mind people have soul-link with each or fusions i don't believe that  giving someone a simple soul is going to revive them so easy. Let's look at what the game tells you about souls; A soul is the cumulation of one's being, whether its a monster or human. Going by that logic we can figure that the soul still has conscience even after the person dies. The body of a human works as a vehicle and is only operates by the engineer(soul), even when the car does work/damage the engineer would still be functional. Monsters are attuned to their souls unlike humans so when they die their soul also get shattered however look what the red library book said: (It’s a school report about monster funerals.)'''

Monster funerals, technically speaking, are cool as heck.

When monsters get old and kick the bucket, they turn into dust.

At funerals, we take that dust and spread it on that person’s favorite thing.

Then their essence will live on in that thing…

'''When the dreemurr kids died, their souls get shattered as well. Asriel only became flowey when alphys inject DT on the flowey his dust fell on. He essence live on in flowey(literally) hence why he has any memories in spite of separating himself from the two beings. Oh but wait cartoon, what about chara, they’re not a monster. They couldn't be able to come back if their soul is separated for their body. Yes they can, and here's why. '''

'''You really what happen toriel after asgore wage war right? She excile herself and took chara body to give a proper burial i.e. the beginning of the game. Now whether you see chara being the narrator in all runs or just genocide(i don't mind either). Chara tells us in the genocide that our human soul and determination wakes them up. Which is how they become what they are their. Cartoon doesn't that contragate your previous statement; how souls are the engines to the vehicle(body). Yeah it looks like i write myself to a counter… until you realize that there was nothing else said about human soul and bodies outside of determination and conscience. Whos to say that conscience would still be there after they dead or that chara’s soul fragments would be on top of their body along with some dust. Its was a long time ago and chara situation is able as similar to most dead resurrection in media.'''

'''Case and point, soul are providing to see be alive when awaken and chara and asriel still have their soul(or fragments) by some extent. And there are many ways you can full revive them by… '''

Ways to revive them:

'Soul power ''- one possible require for revive is the power of onces souls. From what we learn about it, soul power seems to be a natural thing and creating it artificial is impossible: The barrier is locked by SOUL power.. Unfortunately, this power cannot be recreated artificially. SOUL power can only be derived from what was once living. The canon thing it done is make a barrier and revive chara is some extent. So if you can make up a story where alphys, sans or some other scientist can learn more about soul power and attract it out of a living/dead person(like you do with souls). You might be one the right track. Maybe soul power can be one of the contains needed to repair souls.One example i see of using soul power is https://archiveofourown.org/works/5107916 and Goat-son '''

'Determination'' - another possible require for resurrection is DT. it’s something that comes from humans natural and the will to keep living: I believe this is what gives their SOULs the strength to persist after death. The will to keep living... The resolve to change fate. Let's call this power... "Determination." with it i believe you can make amazing stuff with it like cloning bodies or help with science experiment(we’ll get to that). example of this is  http://sonocomics.tumblr.com/post/146855387332/aaaaannnnndddd-thats-all-folks-not-a-funny-one '''

'Magic ''- now this is a interesting place for fanwork. I have talked about magic before in previous treads so it’s possible to come up with spells, incarnations or potions to do it. whether you think there’s still magic in the surface or magic gets reintroduce after the barrier break of course. But you must make it believable, get limits and requirements necessary to do it(e.p. Higher level, herb and DT), hell you can even mixed things up with the consequences that they would endure when they’re revived(not just trauma). A good examples are https://insanelyadd.tumblr.com/post/173002755378/ive-had-this-really-cute-idea-for-a-post-pacifist /https://www.deviantart.com/insanelyadd/art/SkeleChara-Page-1-740748556  and https://archiveofourown.org/works/5296460/chapters/12226634 '''

'Scientific help ''-  for those who live science or into sci-fi stuff, scientific research could help you with revive. Think of the many movie, books or shows where they use science(or Technomagic), in it they create life via cloning bodies, dna experiments or other mind-transferring base on what day they got. Like with magic, try to think through how you handle it in your story. I have mentioned above that chara and asriel have fragments of their souls by some matter, i only a matter of repair it and the bodies. Is it a longer process or short one? What requirement are needed (soul power, DT, DNA)? Who helps out alphys, sans, other scientist? You should also say where it takes place surface or underground. you can even build up the timing, when it takes place too(years after the barrier or during the run). Good examples are Sweetdreemurrs - Revival, https://archiveofourown.org/series/388030 and https://archiveofourown.org/series/856568 '''

'God-like fusions ''- now these last ones are quiet recky but i believe they’re possible. First one is fusions, we see 3 different ones in the game: chara-asriel, omega flowey and god of hyperdeath. When a monster absorbs a human soul they gain power but having seven or more you can do any impossible thing(e.p. infinite hp, create/destroy worlds). The first two fusions only give power but can’t perform impossibles like the latter. But even you’re willing to take that route, make it believable and have weight to it. In game the fusions spilt control between the souls(excluding hyperdeath) and conflict would be aroused when handle badly. I took some inspiration for SU Fusions as they represent different kind of relations base on the bond between gems. If the bond with souls are strong and on equal side, they can find within them the will to live again. But if you have other ways of doing it be my guess. a prime example i see it working is this Offtale (thou it’s a crossover, but still it works)'''

'Resets/creating worlds/timelines -'' while we’re on that train of thought, what about resetting to a certain point in time. in-game we can only reset to where we have our power(the golden flowers) but what if we have god-like powers. Heck, you can even have the god character create a world/timeline where they live. With the right amount of power and DT, they can reset back to kinder times.I would be thrilled to see that in animated/drawn/written form, i’ll be like those animes with timeline shnegines. Just remember, like with magic, science and fusions, there must be difficulty and/or requirement in meeting those possible(like what i give for fusions). It can be so easy to get the ending you want without build-up of some sort. the only example i can find is this canceled game UNDERTALE: What-if '''

'''And that's about the ideas i have, only how to revived the dreemurr kids. Now these are just what i can think of off my head. But i’m sure you have better solutions and i hope i inspire you in this post. You can comment down below some fic/comics examples that have similar or different ways to do it. And remember this: when do this, don’t have to pop out of nowhere; plan it out, make drafts, build it up and have the idea and choices make sense'''

 