Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20181123023529/@comment-32182236-20181205012122

Pure human souls can't use magic. Yet the six souls rebelled against Omega Flowey on their own, using a force that wasn't magic. Magic isn't the only power source in this world.

They simply boke free from Flowey's control out of sheer determination that Frisk helped out with. They didn't actually use aupernatural abilities-They merely regained the will to act on their own, and refused to obey Flowey.

It was like Sans would teleport to Grillby's.. but wouldn't (or couldn't?) take Papyrus along with him for the ride.

I view it as Sans teleporting with Papyrus, but always in front, and thus, the first to walk in. After all, Papyrus probably hates Grillby's! It has nothing he'll eat! Could be why he's annoyed:Sans brought him to Grillby's!

Again, each of Sans' winks might be an ironic probablity feather-touch, but it's like he's sharing a private joke with Frisk the Bandage-wearing Amnesiac. And each time it's like Sans knows what's going to happen in the future. Or an ironic comment like if Frisk survives to the MTT dinner without daying, Sans winks and mentions what a great job HE'S doing.

He viewed the timelines. Remember that anomaly he spotted, until everything ends? Yeah, he kind of analyzed the timelines. And how how good he's doing, he's reffering to his job of "protecting" Frisk.

While dying multiple times to King Asgore, Frisk is the one who has to remind Asgore how many times the King has already killed him. But when fighting Sans, SANS is the one who counts Frisk's death before the battle.

Yeah, he reads our face to find out.

I'll explain the first few bits, alright?

So, at first, Frisk looks frustrated about something. It would appear as sudden, and with no real source to Sans.. Unless he realizes that what Frisk is frustrated at is losing to Sans. Sans probably just straight-up oneshooted Frisk, who WOULDN'T be frustrated? So, he figured he had to have killed Frisk once.

Now, if we kill Sans instead, and come back, we probably enjoyed the fight, and just want to kill him again.. Like a freak.. It'd probably show on Frisk's facial expression.

Now, if they died twice in a row, there's no more utter shock, Frisk is now starting to mentally prepare themsselves for the battle proper, but the sheer ahock probably hasn't quite faded yet.

When you know a lot about timelines, and are amazingly good at reading faces, you might just be able to predict how many times they died. Well, at least for a while. Eventually you'd probably get confused, as the looks start becoming almost identical each time around. And this happens to Sans as well! After the ninth death, Sans isn't sure whether it was seven, nine, or ten. And after the eleventh death, he just can't "count" very well anymore, because telling the death count by faces alone just becomes impossible. Which is why starting from death 12, he completely stops counting. And it's not that he's bad at math/counting, because if he couldn't count, he wouldn't make a good scientist at all. No, the reason why he can't count past 11 is because he's guessing the number of times you died based off your facial expression. He doesn't actually remember the times he killed you-He just inferred that they MUST have happened.

This is what makes the Sans fight tragic. Frisk's final act before completely losing himself to Chara, is to try and kill HIMSELF. And that's why Sans, who never hesitated to kill Flowey in previous timeliness, won't fight Frisk unless it's a last resort. And when this shambling powder-fist-covered mass murder lurched into the Judgement Hall, Sans has a question for him "Do you think anyone can before a good person.. if they just.. try?"

No, Sans doesn't want to "kill" Frisk, as in kill him for good. He knows Frisk will reload, and he wants Frisk to ragequit and not come back.

*getttttt dunked on! if we're really friends, you won't come back!

Which gives us a paradox of sort that comes specifically from your theory. If Frisk DID get killed, then Sans would be blinked from existence, as he could never have existed, being a future version of Frisk. So.. Yeah, you just made a paradox that could have been avoided. How are you going to resolve a temporal paradox?

Oh, and also, how did Undertale Prime happen? Because right now, I can only think of two possibilities:Papyrus spots Frisk because there is no lamp, and they die early, or everything goes mostly normal, because no interaction with Sans is actually required for a Pacifist Run. Meaning Frisk could have succeeded wihout Sans, meaning the whole transofrming into Sans thing was completely unneccesary.

Oh, and that question? That's a reflection based off of Papyrus, who believes exactly this. Who is now dead because of Frisk. Dirty brother killer.

Sans has definitely killed before, he is not innocent. And I don't mean that he's killed Flowey. The reason Gaster, who was once a father figure to Sans, is gone.. is because Sans had to kill him, when Gaster tried to use Option C, and genocide the monsters to instantly break the barrier.

...Didn't I prove Option C was impossible? Because it'd require more SOULs than what actually exist? All the monsters combined make ONE human SOUL's worth of power. Not SIX OR SEVEN.