Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20200127163832/@comment-33883848-20200129142807

"But they need the Barrier to break. Otherwise, they can't destroy anything outside the Barrier."

But it's not implied that the barrier need to be broken for this to happen.

"..Or, they did, but just like Flowey, they want to make the humans suffer a bit. Chara could have one-shotted Flowey, but they didn't. I wonder why?"

So they would make needles efforts to kill over 8 billions humans by themselves (i just cant imagine a little kid swinging around their knife and traveling across the world by killing every human, thats just ridiculous.) instead of just killing them all in one strike ?. Also, i don't think that Chara is such a one dimensional evil sadistic demon that will take immense pleasure at making all children and babies suffer just because they can. You're arguing that they aren't pure evil BUT NOW that they want to kill all humans by making them suffer?

"Remember, if you do Genocide a second time, they tell you to take another path."

Yes in genocide run. But they never tell so in neutral runs and never tell you to do the pacifist run in neutral run. Chara also outright says that they feel "obligated" to suggest another path, which is a weird wordering if they want you to do the pacifist run to kill everyone on the surface. They are simply telling you to take any other path as its pointless to destroy and recreate the world all over again.

"If just killing Frisk's friends Underground is what Chara wanted, they wouldn't ask you to take another path."

Exactly. This is what i trying to prove several times already. Frisk friends (along with humans and monsters) are already killed in genocide run but Chara still suggest Frisk to take another path while they kill frisks friends in souless pacifist run. That alone means that they have standards, that they arent killing for the sake of killi, not just because they are a mindless sadist otherwise they would encourage your genocide runs or they would keep the world destroyed as everyone is already dead. They kill Frisk's friends to prevent them from living a happy life, from having their happy end. That doesnt mean that Chara wont let Frisk reset and try another run if they want to but if they choose a pacifist run, Chara wont let them have their happy ending as they dont deserve it.