Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34798955-20180310144518/@comment-33883848-20190627102917

User1204 wrote: One thing I come across while people "prove" Chara isn evil is the tapes. Lets take a look at them.

They all have no camera. You can't see Asriel in distress during it, so you have no evidence to prove that Asriel wasn't OK with the plan.

Chara has no lines, but obviously talked back to Asriel. Toby Fox made this on purpose, it was made to be ambiguous. The main evidence of Chara being outright evil theories is by filling the blank speeches with manipulative dialogue, making them evil. However, just as easily, you could put inspirational dialogue in.

At first Asriel doesn't think it's a great idea. If your best friend came up with a plan involving them killed, would you agree at first, no matter how good the end would be?

Exactly!!But this is not the only scenario fans created themselves to "prove"that Chara is evil.They also created imaginary scenario where Chara destroy humanity in the soulless pacifist end,say that they lied to Asriel regarding the plan despite the lack of evidences,say that they blame the player just to force them to give their soul,imagined a scenario where Chara force Frisk and the player to kill all monsters,that they want Frisk to kill all monsters in all runs ,say that they intentionally initiated an attack against Asriel in the village,say that Chara was sadisticaly laughing at Asgore's pain and that they intentionaly poisoned Asgore,that they abused Asriel despite the very little interactions the siblings have in the game,that they were manipulating all monsters to think that they are good despite the fact that's never implied they did.They have no real argument to "prove"that Chara is evil as all of their "arguments "are filled with conjecture instead of real proofs,showing how much evil chara theory is weak and not based on real proofs.

That's unlike Chara defence squad and all the theorists that believe that Chara is and was neutral as they really have in game's evidences for their claims.For example,Chara defence squad say that Chara laughed at Asgore's poisoning to cope with the situation not just because its their headcanon,not just because they want to believe it but because Asriel says that he was supposed to do the same,which indicates that it wasnt a bad laugh or because Toriel would have noticed that Chara was sadisticaly laughing ,because "laughing something off"is an idiom that mean "to treat a situation lightly"and because Chara used the same toxic flowers to kill themselves despite the fact that its one of the most awfull ways to die and while they could choose any other method that would hide their suicide(the buttercups would also ruin their chances to hide their suicide from their parents because they acidentaly poisoned asgore with them and thus would have similar symptoms),which suggest that it was a form of penance for what they did to their father and thus that they really felt bad about it.Or they say that its unlikely that Chara want to kill all monsters since the start and in all runs because they dont give the kill count in the ruins,doenst act mean in all non genocidal runs and because Chara admit themselves that they didnt understand why they came back to life when they wake up untill your guidance showed them the purpose of their reincarnation.

So in one hand,we have guys whose arguments are basically pure headcanons without any real game facts and on the other hand we have guys who ony use the game facts as way to back up their interpretation,which side do you choose?