Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-31536324-20180704203334

MagomaevaAmina

I think the "hole" thing is meant to indicate that Frisk Determination has no real purpose or direction. Rather than red simply being nothing but a lack of a personality/trait. Determination has no real emotional connotation to it, while the others do in some form or another.

Bravery is courage.

Justice is vindication.

Kindness is, well, kindness.

Patience is calmness/serenity.

Integrity is honesty.

And Persevereance is stubbornness.

Determination, at its core, is certainty. Something usable for both pacifist and genociders.

I don't personally buy the idea of red being what people are born with in terms of canon. Fanon, I'm fine with. But not with canon due to there being no indication of it in any way, and just plain going against every other implication of the nature of the SOUL in Undertale. If there were ever a SOUL everyone is born with, then there would have been some mention of it somewhere. Given that Humans and Monsters were living together it peace before the war.

I think TheHumanAmbassador gave a reason why Red couldn't be zero in one of his previous comments.