Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20190403163405/@comment-32182236-20190416214337

You just took the first definition and scrapped the other two. That's not okay. Explain the other two, Ferret. It does give the SOULs the strength to persist after death, but that's not all DT is. After all, it also gives one the ability to SAVE/LOAD (Changing fate)..

Undyne never actually died in Genocide, until she Determination Melted. She almost died, but she turned into Undying before she would die. It's the will to keep living, whether you died or not.

Ambassador, if you're actually making the case that human souls don't generate Determination, you've never saved the game even once when you're been playing Undertale, and have never seen the meme phrase "You're filled with Determination". Where does it come from? Who can say. But somehow, there was more there than there was before. And this only seems to happen with humans.

See? Even you don't know where it comes from. So how do we know it came from the SOUL? How do we know we "generated" it?

You can be filled with happiness, but we don't see people arguing that we generate happiness.

DT can indeed fluctuate. I even acknowledge this when comparing Frisk vs Omega Flowey to Frisk vs Asriel. But by taking into consideration what causes Undying to appear vs not appearing, and that the will to keep living and resolve to change fate are one and the same with determination, it's pretty easy to figure out where it's coming from.

When you're determined, you gain determination. And you lose that extra determination once you're no longer determined.

But of course, perhaps you do interpret the will to "keep living" as refusing death, rather than simply life itself. But there is a statement of DT being specifically "the will to live", rather than "the will to keep living.

Take a look at Entry 8, Ferret. It's basically flat-out confirmation that determination is the will to live.