Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20190721003717/@comment-26907577-20200112224027

Yes, we do know that Undyne somehow has Determination.

But we don't know it's HUMAN Determination. It might be excessive natural Determination.

Sans doesn't just have Determination, he has the full ability to Save and Load, something that Undyne with her 2nd-hand Determination lacks. Flowey, with Chara's human soul, has this power too, as does Frisk.

Oh, right. You believe that. What part of "if Flowey still had a human SOUL, why did absorbing the six SOULs in Neutral not instantly make him God?" is the issue?

To get his room key, Sans gives us an interview to make sure that 'we're a time traveler, just like he is'. Sans doesn't just have Determination, he must have a real human soul.

That is, uh, not what he said. This is. wait a second. that look on your face while i was talking... you've already heard my spiel, haven't you? i suspected something like this. you're always acting like you know what's going to happen. like you've seen it all before. so... i have a request for you. i kind of have a secret codeword that only i know. so i know if someone tells it to me... they'll have to be a time traveller. crazy, right? anyway, here it is... (whisper, whisper) i'm counting on you to come back here and tell me that. see you later. [Reloads] huh? do you have something to say to me? what? a codeword? can you speak a little louder? did you... ... just say "i'm a stupid doodoo butt?" wow. i can't believe you would say that. not only is that completely infantile... but it's also my secret codeword. that, however, isn't good enough. what you need is the secret secret codeword. it's only for people that know the secret codeword. anyway, here it is... (whimsper, whimsper)... [Reloads] huh? do you have something to say to me? what? a codeword? can you speak a little louder? did you... ... just say "i'm the legendary fartmaster?" wow. that's... uh... really childish. why would you think that was a secret secret codeword? whoever told you that is a dirty liar. i don't have a secret secret codeword. however. i do have a secret secret triple-secret codeword. which you just said. so, i guess you're qualified. here's the key to my room. it's time... you learned the truth. [Reloads] huh? triple secret codeword? nah, i'm out of material.

They never bleed,

Explain this?

https://i.imgur.com/i1ZR5Dw.png

Alphys already had a good head start on it. And devices like the Dimensional Boxes have now become commonplace. Gaster's future tech is indeed leaking out into the surrounding world. And even a hint of that is going to change everything.

Good head start? What head start?

It is leaking out. Veeeery slowly.

"Just a genius" doesn't explain how someone could develop tech several centuries in advance of the surrounding world. Now and then, someone makes a breakthrough, but usually they build on the work of other scientists.

Uber-genius. Where is that post?

Aha.

If Gaster/Andonuts had come from the world above, there would have been signs of his work coming through the trash even before he arrived. But that didn't happen.

Or maybe he didn't come from the world above. Maybe Gaster was a monster who lived in the Underground his adult life.