Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20181123023529/@comment-26006155-20181210200219

TheHumanAmbassador wrote: Ferret, it seems as if you're deliberately glossing over the TWO holes I pointed out in your story!

First, about a human falling before Chara, I had once found evidence that I ought might actually support that, until realizing that hey, the Barrier was known at first, so it does make sense for them to know nobody returns before the first human vanished.

Second, let's talk about the holes.

Alphys' experiment still works perfectly. Sis human SOULs plus Gaster's should be enough, if he really is human. Ironically, the Dark Emperiment that you use in your big argument that Gaster is a human only makes sense if Gaster is NOT a human!

Second, I really don't get why you're glossing over a very obvious hole in your Sans story. I've said it several times already:Frisk could reload to before Gaster fell if they regretted their decision! It's really that simple! Even Asgore is a better planner than your take on Frisk, and he glossed over something that Toriel pointed out! Humans can't absorb human souls. And monsters can't absorb monster souls.

Ghosts... are different. The lore suggests their neither human, nor monster. And as such, like in Flowey's case, they can absorb both.

Gaster was a living human.. until his shattering. So he couldn't have absorbed the Six Human Souls until he became a ghost.

It might be a plot hole, but it's a plot hole that also occures in Undertale itself. Alphys and Asgore weren't able to absorb monster souls themselves, so they planned on putting the collected souls into a vessel, a flower. As if this might be a solution to their problems.

How did they plan on using this flower to break the barrier if they didn't hold the soul power themselves?

They must have devised a way to control this vessel.

And as you pointed out, God of Hyperdeath Asriel has the same voice as the Elevator Man.

Gaster seemed to think he could control this vessel. It seems he was right.