Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-32182236-20171024140508

The credits of the video show the entire cast of Harry Potter and The Sorcerer's Stone worked on it. Besides, if Toby was too lazy to make a trophy sprite, why can't we also say he was too lazy to make his own sprite? Why can we have two identical trophies, but not two identical dogs?

Well, what if the dog DOESN'T represent Toby, or it's talking about 211X Toby, and it's a game the dog made AFTER Undertale? Then the line makes sense.

"All such phrase is saying is that someone did a whole thing, not just a small fraction of a thing. Such phrase doesn't even imply whether this person was the only contributor or not."

What I'm saying is if they weren't the only contributor, they DIDN'T do a whole thing.

"If there were more contributors, they would all get credit, and it would hold true that ALL of them made A whole game (so saying about one of them that he made A whole game is technically still true)"

No, NONE of them did. Each and every one of the, made part of a game. It's only when you combine everyone together that you can say the GROUP, TOGETHER made a whole game. Try and split it apart, and you're also splitting apart the game, and it stops being a full game, but many pieces of a game, some bigger than others, but they're still just pieces. What "the" implies is that we know what game the line is talking about. We don't. "The" doesn't fit-Just like I can't say "the star is 40 light-years away" without having specified what star I'm talking about-There's many possibilities! I'd have to use "a star is 40 light-years away." "Is the star 20 billion light-years away?" That question doesn't make sense, if I'm asking if there exists any star that's said distance away. The line says the dog made a full game-Without specifying which game it is. I'm not specifying which game it is either, I only theorize that it's NOT Undertale-It's one of the THOUSANDS, perhaps MILLIONS, of other possibilities. We don't know what game it is. That's why "the" isn't used. In fact, we could say that Toby DID make a whole game long before Undertale if we used your logic. The Halloween Hack came from a combination of the contributors making Earthbound, and then Toby making a few changes to it-You could say that the combined efforts of the two created a full game. Just because he's not the only contributor doesn't mean you can't say he didn't make a full game, right? °3°