Talk:Chara/@comment-37748092-20191005040407

I personally don't think Chara is a villain. However, I do see them as an antagonist.

A villain is someone who is responsible for the majority of the bad things that happen in a story (such as Flowey), while an antagonist is someone who opposes the protagonist (such as Asgore).

I see Chara as the antagonist on the genocide route, but I'm not sure about pacifist or neutral, since we don't see them on any other route.

Let me explain my reasoning.

I stand strong by my belief that Chara was not responsible for the genocide route. If Chara had truly taken control of Frisk's body, we'd have lost control of them, at least in the overworld. I know that something like that would have made the game less fun, but we know that Toby punishes the player for their misdeeds, and I believe that if Toby wanted to get the point across that Chara possessed Frisk, he would have put something like that in.

We know that Chara wanted to erase the world at the end of the genocide route.

I'm not going to use the "children are impressionable, Chara wanted to please you" excuse, because I don't think it's a very good point.

Asriel has told us that Chara hated humanity. By the time Chara asks you to erase the world, you have already killed all of the monsters. Chara was adopted by monsters, they were their family. Now, their all gone. All that's left in the world is humanity, whom Chara holds a grudge against.

Now that there's nobody in the world for Chara to love, there is nothing left for them. If all of the humans die, Chara won't care.

Hey, I never said they were a good person.

But while Chara is the one who destroyed the world, they're also the ones that bring it back.

I've seen people talk about the soulles pacifist ending, and how Chara presumably killed the monsters.

Emphasis on presumably.

Chara has no reason to hate the monsters. Based on what we hear in New Home, Chara was treated wonderfully by the monsters. We also know that Chara poisoned their parents, but that was purely accidental. And don't forget that Asriel had a hand in that, too.

Chara did not laugh at the incident because they thought it was funny, it was more of an anxious laugh.

Now, I'm going to travel back in time to when the humans attacked Chasriel.

I've seen people debate whether or not Chara was justified in wanting to kill the humans that attacked them. I feel as though this decision is a huge factor in deciding where Chara stands in terms of morality, so I'll share my thoughts on that.

I don't think that Chara was justified in their decision, but I do think their thinking was understandable.

When Asriel decided not to attack the humans, he was thinking of the humans' lives, what kind of impact their deaths would have on their families, but Chara's decision to try and kill the humans was driven by their hatred for humanity and a lack of empathy.

However, I don't think Chara's decision was driven by evil, but rather by fear. When someone is afraid, they don't think logically. The first thing on their minds is getting out of harm's way. Obviously, Chasriel was afraid when they were being attacked by the humans.

It is true that Chara could have run away instead of trying to kill the humans, but the original plan was to claim six souls and break the barrier. It was likely Chara knew that they had only one chance to execute this plan, and they didn't want to throw it away.

I do not think Chara is evil, but I still think they are an antagonist. I don't mind it if you disagree with me. Toby left Chara's morality up to speculation. Let's try to do that without attacking those with differing opinions.

If any of my reasoning contradicts with what we've been told in the game, let me know.