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Prueba22 wrote: GiverOfThePeace wrote: Prueba22 wrote: GiverOfThePeace wrote: Prueba22 wrote: GiverOfThePeace wrote: KR being karma makes far more sense, especially since UT has shown it's acryonyms can stem from a single world. Randomly assuming "karmic retribution" is worse since the game clearly calls it karma. UT has shown its acronyms can stem from several words too, so that argument is 100% invalid.

The game calls karma to the damage you are suffering, the skill causing that damage may have a different name, like "bio" causing "poison" damage in Final fantasy.

The game never calls  the KR  karma.

It calls the damage it causes karma, its a huge difference. Funny how you never show an example for those several word acryonyms. The burden of proof falls on you to show that. The game also never calls KR karmatic retribution. You're attemtping to grasp at straws. The minute you start taking damage KR appears, so KR clearly correlates to the damage taken, occam's razor. LOVE "level of violence" several words in a single acronym.

EXP "execution points" several words in a single acronym, i didnt say examples because i considered them obvious for anyone who played the game.

The game never details what KR means. But its directly related with KARMA damage (adressed as such, it loads you with karma points) and that justify the K of the KR acronym, and we are left with the R.

Given the dictionary definition of retribution, i think it fits nicely.

The minute you start taking damage, you start suffering karma retribution, it correlates to the damage, as you well said, occams razor.

(even if you worded in such a thing its hard to know if you agree or disagree with me, the example you pointed helps my point nicely) Show once where the game states "You're suffering karma retribution" rather then just "Karma" or you cannot use occam's razor for that because that's a random headcanon assumption you made.

Clearly I disagree, literally none of my points helps your point your own examples amps my point for my KR = Karma. The acronyms you used mind you are far larger then KR, LOVE is a 4 letter acronym, EXP is a 3 letter acronym, so as we see:

LOVE= Level Of ViolencE uses 3 words and one of the words the acronym uses 2 letters for.

EXP = EXecution Points uses 2 words and one of the words the acronym uses 2 letters for.

Are you getting the pattern?

KR = KaRma

Your refute requires accepting a headcanon as canon to even get your point across, KR clearly means just Karma. Snip  Oh boy the gish gallop... not only did your argument not even get my premise but you just repeated yourself and applied headcanons everywhere. Idk why this is so hard to get but let's refute this yet again ​​​​​

​​KR clearly refers to that but we're just going to go onto headcanons so let's see what happens.

You started off with a false equivalence, I care nothing about what another RPG has when the entire thing of UT is that it's a twist on common RPG tropes. False equivalence, moving on.

I don't think you understood my previous point on the entire pattern thing, yes generally far larger acronyms are going to have several words, but your own pattern literally showed that by the time you get to a 3 letter acronym it only uses 2 words, so what would a 2 letter acronym give? 1 word. Your own refute debunks yourself, moving on.

Except that the words you used are far larger acronyms which makes logical sense for them to do that while KR is a 2 letter acronym. Even then the pattern further supports it being one word, you've literally debunked yourself.

No, it can't be karma revenge or karma retribution, that's what I was explaining and you clearly didn't understand that. That's a headcanon the in-game message says Karma, it says KR the acronyms show that you need at least a 3 letter acronym to have 2 words. Occam's razor, KR = Karma. KR = Karma is confirmed by the fight itself, you refusing to accept the info and asserting multiple headcanons doesn't change that. If you'd like to continue this discussion we can do it in a VC (voice chat) cause I'm not in the mood for another refute of gish gallop.