Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20181101220519

So, yesterday, a new game, the official sequel to Undertale, was released! (This analysis obviously has spoilers for Deltarune. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.) And that gives us all kinds of information, alongside revealing which ending of the former game is canon!

This is the new game Toby mentioned, shrouded in darkness:This was not a reference to Gaster, but Toby meant that quite literally-It really is shrouded in darkness.

As anyone who finished the game would know, we only have Chapter 1 right now. But even from that, we still learned a LOT. And raised a lot of questions, especially from the ending. So, let me go through a lot of these questions one-by one, and I'll speculate on what the answers might be, based on the evidence we have.

First off, the HUD is canon now. Seriously, the animations flat-out show it now. The Darkners take your SOUL, and push it into a box. We also learn more about SOUL mechanics, however, and it seems this is not the only way of fighting-Magical projectiles first make your SOUL visible, vurnerable, and THEN you take damage from any magical attacks afterward. The HUD is the special scenario when the SOUL leaves your body, into the box. When a monster/Darkner activates a fight.

Secondly, "there's a lot of Floweys out there" applies to monsters as well, as Susie shows. But, it seems as though even they can be reedemed. Somehow, Asriel was SAVED. (And Susie was reformed.) Well, at least that's what it seems. Because you see, Susie gets reformed by the end of the game. We don't know what happens to the king after he gets overthrown yet, however. Either way, peace is restored. For now, at least.

Thirdly, we know this takes place after a Post-Genocide Pacifist Ending. We know this because the monsters are free, we stayed with Toriel, Asgore has become a gardener, Toriel is finally a teacher, and Asriel went to college. Based on the number of days our librarby book was late for, and narration in Toriel's class, it's been around 6-8 years since monsters were freed. And the Post-Geno part? We're not Frisk, we're Kris. A fusion of Frisk and Chara. We're wearing Chara's outfit, and at the very end, Chara comes out, trapping our SOUL. Taking over at night.. Just like in the Post-Genocide Pacifist Ending. So that's right, guys! Post-Genocide Pacifist is canon! (Really, Toby? You make the WORST ending canon?)

Fourth.. We have what might turn out to be one of the biggest plot twists in the series.

You see, we are Frisk, but at the same time, we're not. We're Chara, but at the same time.. We're not. We've been through the True Pacifist Ending, and yet, it's like it never happened. Undyne never met Alphys, Alphys thinks Mew Mew 2 is better than Mew Mew 1 (What treachery! To the Bad Opinion Zone for you, Alphys!), Sans never met us.. Seven flowers instead of seven SOULs.. And according to the legend, Light and Dark were in peace, until one day, war WOULD break out. It hasn't happened?

There are two possibilities. One:We are NOT Frisk, they have been discarded. Forever forgotten into the void, they were, and we are their replacement, and only that.

But, that still wouldn't explain Undyne not knowing about Alphys. They met BEFORE Frisk fell. So, that leaves only one other possibility.. But before we get there, let me tell you something about the world of Deltarune.

Fate cannot be changed anymore. Go on, TRY to do a Genocide Run of DeltaRune. You'll soon find that you can't. No, I'm not saying you don't have the will to disobey Ralsei, I'm saying you literally CAN'T do a Genocide Run. Knock them out to zero HP? The run away. Try to fight the first boss, since it only heals 300HP every three turns? ..Well, now it's 700HP every three turns. Kill the king? Nah, he just fell asleep, and now Susie used Pacifiy. All that changes is that you won't be able to say farewell to everyone at the end of the Dark World. For all intents and purposes, you did a Pacifist Run.

...Now, about Ralsei.. That's an anagram of Asriel. And as I'm sure you're aware of, at the end of the Dark World, he takes off his hood, and reveals the goat horns. Ralsei is a Boss Monster. Darkners aren't a third race, they are just more monsters. No mention of another brother has been mentioned. Is this.. Is this Asriel? But, if that was Asriel, then..

...It seems our game with Asriel really hasn't finished yet.

Either way, I suppose our only true way of knowing, is to just wait for Chapter 2. 