Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-32182236-20181019020419

Malice, since your take on the Asriel fight was actually DIRECTLY supported by the battle, as opposed to mine being merely indirectly supported, I've ruled that your take is more plausible, and have converted my stance.

Tsskyx, take notes-Direct evidence from the game beats speculation. Find game quotes to support your theory, and I'll be MUCH more likely to believe it.

Now, let me expand upon Malice's take a bit.

"Every time you die, your grip on this world slips away."

What IS this "grip on this world?" And clearly, that means we ARE dying every time, but we just come back like Undying.

"Every time you die, your friends forget you a little more. Your life will end here, in a world where no one remembers you..."

As Malice hinted at, similar to Goner Kid. But, why did he say our life would end here? It can't be regular death, because we've died plenty of times already. (Quote must make sense in all timelines where quote can naturally appear.) It can't mean we're actually dead forever, since Asriel just said he'd just reset everything and bring us back to the start, to play again. Everyone's memories back to zero, just as he said. So, what is he talking about? The hyperdeath I mentioned! But, it works differently than what I said before.

Your grip on this world. What is your connection to the world? How do you control what goes on? How do you warp reality itself to erase any unfavorable outcomes? DT. S/L/R. As the fight becomes hopeless, seeing that he's a literal god, we can't move our body, and "This is the end".. With no way out.. No way to surpass him..

As long as we stay determined, we'll fight on. But eventually.. We'd give up. This isn't like Asgore, where it's still technically possible. He's a GOD. Alphys said it herself, technically it's impossible to beat Asriel.

As it fades, from our friends, our motivations to fight on in the first place forgetting us, it eventually would drop back below Asriel's amount. So when we die for the last time, with nobody remembering us..

..The very thing that created our DT fluctuation, that source, has vanished. This puts Asriel back into control, he initates his reset, and we get Inverted Fate.

Okay, that last one might not be that accurate.. Especially since Frisk would remember Timeline 1 as well. Point is, new beginning. Only Flowey, Frisk, and MAYBE Chara would remember. (If Chara doesn't, they'll find out soon enough through their connection to us)