Talk:Undyne/@comment-34053555-20180408165723/@comment-33155089-20190402164225

Undyne…

For one, the only reason why Sans was so hard in the first place was because he could dodge. And well, in the Undyne fight, you can dodge too, and still end up dying. For two, the karmic retribution I'm pretty sure is only in place because you literally killed the entire population of the Underground, excluding Asgore and Flowey (That's after the Sans fight). Undyne doesn't kill any monsters, the the KR wouldn't be in play. Sans has 1 HP, 1 ATK, and 1 DEF. Undyne has 1500 HP(Normal form) 23000(Undying Form) 50 ATK(Normal form) 99(Undying form), 20 DEF(Normal Form), and 99(Undying Form)

Statwise, Undyne would win. Also, let's not forget this:

If Undyne even lands 1 hit, Sans is dead, gone, RIP. If Undyne gets hit once, she'll have to get hit a LOT more times before she's even close to dying, Even in her normal form. Undyne can make a soul turn green which means her opponent can't move. This means Sans cannot dodge, and would quickly lose the fight.