Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-33883848-20180703204801

By the way,determination is something that can increase or been reduced regards the will to live on of the host. In fact omega Flowey overcomes Frisk's determination while he" only "has 6 human souls but in the true end, he has an equivalent of 7 human souls but he cant overcome Frisk's determination (Frisk can load their save file and Asriel tries to get the power to recept by killing Frisk). Which means that Frisk have more determination than Asriel, something they dont had during Omega flowey fight. So i feel like the reason why the fallen humans didnt load their save file from the surface because they only became the most determined beings in the underground (presumely because of the fear of death as monsters wants their death)