Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20180324175357/@comment-29855659-20180408211652

First of all you are right about those two theories, both of which I didn't really believe in. I just had the ideas and thought they were at least interesting, even though I'm aware they wouldn't really stand a closer interspection (which they didn't. You effortlessly proved both of them wrong). In fact a few minutes after I posted this I remembered that the narrator calls you Frisk if you look into a mirror after the Asriel fight, which further proves my theory wrong.

"He put a lot of thought into everything else, why not this?"

I'm pretty sure that if you look closer and try to reconstruct and interprete the whole backstory, the way determination and SOULs work, SAVEing mechanics etc. you may find out a satisfying great unifying theory that explains everything. But I doubt Tohy Fox had one. Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate the backstory, the "meta"-nature of the game and the fact that it is one of maybe three or four games I know that you can analyze the same way you can do with literature. The twists of the game (Execution points, Sans' speech while battling, Chara, Gaster...) really demonstrate how little you actually care about the game's characters, how players can slaughter characters like Papyrus out of pure curiousity and then go on YouTube to comment how they "CRIED 10HRS AFTERWARDS". The game is a great exploration of how horrible the life of a NPC would actually be and of how hypocritical the player's morality is.

But determination...How did Chara come back?...What is Chara?...What dies it/he/she want?...How does all of that work.... I don't think there's one definite answer to that. If Toby Fox had one to all these questions he would have made it more obvious. Granted, if he told us now, half the FANDOM would turn against him because they liked their theory so much, and the Undertale Fandom is quite aggressive.

I think Toby Fox risked a few plotholes in-universe to get the out-of-universe message across.

Anyway, I am quite happy to see that you think of Chara as a megalomaniac as well. Anything else always annoys me. I got the impression that you didn't think so when I read your theory and reading again I see that you were pretty neutral about your opinion on Chara's personality. I assume it will be part of another "Mini"-Theory.

But if Chara is evil then they can't be the narrator of Pacifist and Neutral. The narrator was friendly, they were making jokes about objects and characters and always "spoke" in a "tongue-in-cheek" way about everything that happened. Admittedly, somehow Chara became friends with Asriel and tried to trick him into believing they had good intentions. On the other hand Chara kept talking that way after an aborted Genocide Run and there they had already revealed tgeir true colours.

I just find it hard to believe that their wouldn't be more hints to this, if Chara was really intended to be the Pacifist narrator.