Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34798955-20180310144518/@comment-32182236-20180315121434

"Flowey literally tells you to let Frisk be happy at the end of True Pacifist. So, you are not Frisk. You control Frisk, but you are not Frisk. Flowey was once like the player, but he wasn't controlling anyone (he manipulated, but not physically controlled)."

He was talking to Chara, not us. Only reason why we hear it is because Chara is forever tied to us, aka-The narrator.

"Yes, Chara most likely was showing Asriel that humans were bad, so it was okay to collect their souls. They knew that Asriel wouldn't collect the souls of innocent humans if they did nothing back. I don't think Chara thought they were going to die, and wouldn't have done that if they knew. That was bad, but good people make mistakes."

I don't believe Chara knew they were going to die. I believe Chara knew the humans would attack, and thought Asriel would finally actually listen and kill them. Which was.. wrong. (Not "evil" wrong, but, wrong as in, that's the wrong answer.)

"Chara can't stop you. They can only watch you kill everyone. Until they gain 20 LV, that is, and have more determination. And by then they're corrupted and evil because of what you did to them and the Underground. You can't get Frisk killed because they resurrect."

Well at least don't give us all the stats that'll help us kill everything. Also, they wouldn't become evil because we are. We and Chara would grow more and more distant with each other until they kill us at the end of the Genocide Route, instead of killing Asgore.

"They start helping you because they are turning evil. They realize they can't stop you and, because they are turning evil from your actions, they start helping."

Except.. How does that even work? Why don't they just consider us the evil one, as further proof that humanity is despicable, and NOT turn evil?

"The memory of staying determined is from Chara, when Asgore told them to stay determined while they were dying. You don't really... 'absorb'... their essence. Frisk and Chara are stuck together through determination. But you aare not absorbing Chara. Asriel felt all of the monsters feeling because he literally absorbed their souls. You didn't absorb Chara's soul. Chara tells you to stay determined, on either route, because they want to help. On Genocide because they are turning evil and can't stop you and on True Pacifist because they love the monsters and want to free them, which was their plan all along."

Yeah, things are a lot more complex than that. We actually have each others' essence. This is because Chara knows how we feel as well. Evidence:"You feel like you're going to have a bad time". This is because, as you said, Frisk and Chara are tied together. Also, we get a memory of ASGORE telling Chara to stay determined. We don't go by Chara. We go by Frisk. Or whatever name OneShow calls you. (Aka:The name you put into your computer profile)

No, we didn't absorb Chara's SOUL. Chara's SOUL is GONE, plus we're a human, and humans can't absorb human SOULs. Of course, since Chara isn't exactly a human anymore, they could still absorb ours, hence the SOUL deal. =)

By the way, the reason why Chara turned evil is probably because of Asriel refusing to kill the humans.

"Chara gained all of that EXP the whole time. It's possible we DID gain EXP from Asgore, but it didn't show since Chara didn't care to inform you, since it wasn't a battle. It just might not had been enough to level us up."

Where'd you get that from? The fact that the stat screen has Chara's name on it? Because, by that reasoning, whenever we get hit, so does Chara.. And that we're somehow protecting Chara by wearing armor?

Chara only gained EXP three times:Sans, Asgore, and Flowey. Or, maybe four, if destroying the world itself nets you EXP for killing Alphys and all the evacuated monsters. Also, it was a battle. Just as much of a battle as Mettaton NEO, Muffet.. And all the bosses save for Undyne and Sans.