Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-33310970-20171117184418/@comment-28517148-20171120201608

First of all I want to say that my words may sound weird. It is because I am talking not only to you but to everyone who is willing to read this. It is a public area after all and many can look here.

I am curious what your theory/head cannon is for what Frisk actually is. Let's assume that Frisk is carrying Chara's Soul. I can provide support for this but it is too long and unnecessary for now. The game says ...a human cannot absorb a human SOUL..., so Frisk possessing someone's Soul cannot be a human. Also, they are not a monster because they do not has monster like white Soul and didn't become a horrible beast with unfathomable power (ancient glyphs) after absorbing Chara's Soul. Therefore Frisk must be neither human nor monster. So what they are? Well, they are a monster, but not like Asriel or Toriel. In their case this term has been used to distinguish two different races - them and humans. Actually Asriel and Toriel are more like humans than a real monsters. The real monster (monstrum, monstro) has another meaning; in my language it literally means after creation (potwór - po tworzeniu). Monster is a word used to describe living beings that have been brought to life in artificial process of creation after event of so called world creation mentioned repeatedly by various religions and beliefs. However, this only describes origin of these beings without defining their attitude. So, what type of monster is Frisk? It's simple - they're golem. Golem is type of monster that has been brought to life by imbuing or charging lifeless matter with any sort of life force. The point and distinguishing feature is that force is way too weak to create an fully functional Soul, so Golem doesn't have it and because of that they also doesn't possess free will, emotions and is unable to speak. This type of monster is limited to receiving and executing commands or orders and moving around. Does it sound familiar to you? Because this description corresponds to well known small humanoid with strangely yellowish skin, always closed eyes, who doesn't speak, doesn't have facial expressions and body language, especially when compared with genuine human - Chara. Additionally, it solves problem with Frisk's sex (or gender, if you prefer): they doesn't have it lel Obviously at the same time the question arises - who has made such thing and for what purpose it has been sent to the Underground? Well, I don't know, but I would to know answer for similar question: who and what for has allowed several children to go to Mount Ebbot while everyone knows there are imprisoned remnants of monsterkind? Was it the same person? I wish to know that.

And I agree that it could very well be that Frisk is a separate entity but without a soul because we know there can be beings without souls {Flowey} so it is definitely a possibility. Yeah, but Flowey was once a monster, which is very different from human. I know some details from the game on what actually happiend do Asriel, but we are talking about humans, so it would be beside the point.

Mind sharing your thoughts on this complicated relation between Chara and Frisk? Actually, the proper chain of relations is as follows: the Player<->Frisk<->Chara<->the Game Creator. Everyone has motivation and purpose, which can be described from two different, mutually exclusive points of view: the Reality and the Game, including another point which lies at the interface between them and produces only mess (famous Judgement Boy's video, where they equated real person with virtual character or Shoddycast Austin's who said that Player is Chara... and they demands their own Soul form themself :). I really would like to elaborate on this, but this darn thing exceeds my ability to write. Sorry.

The last question I have for you is why you say Frisk is silent? We do know the fact that monsters and humans can speak. They are making funny noises while the text box shows their speech every time they want to communicate. That's how they talk. And now comes the funny part: There are frequent times where people respond to things our avatar appears to have said... Well, if Frisk is able to speak than please, cite their words. After all they are able to speak, isn't it?

But if you believed Frisk is indeed a separate entity, they why would you not also believe Frisk is the one doing the talking? I don't want theories, because they are useless. I do not accept beliefs and assumptions because they are made up and existing only in someone's heads. I search for proofs, logical arguments and it doesn't matter if I get them by myself or someone will give them to me. I want to know facts, I want to see the actual state because they are independant from someone's thoughts or words, because they just exist. You can ignore facts, you can incorrectly describe actual state but they do not give a damn about it. They will not change because someone said something. They are reinforced concrete, the destroyer of theories, the final frontier. That's the power of facts and I want that power :] Also, believing in something instead of investigating is kinda lieing to yourself and i don't want to do it to myself and I wouldn't wish that on anybody. Now seriously (or not, 'cause we still talking about stupid videogame). Player and Frisk are physically two different beings: first is sitting in the front of keyboard while the other is inside virtual world, being part of it. However, Frisk is doing everything and only what Player commands and can't disobey. This cause-effect relationship makes them the same or the one, just like relation between user and a tool. You can't say that gun pulls the trigger because it is the gunner who does it. However, it requires to accept that Frisk is mindless, which is not far from truth. After all they are only a playable character, a mindless modern golem made of pixels and data streams constantly fueled by Player's determination, with access to Save file. An perfect combination unclouded by consequences or delusions of morality. And it absolutely will not stop... I can't see more proper way to describe relation Player-Frisk without making some major errors.
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Also, I am making my responses by taking words, phrases and citations and assembling them like bricks. I will understand if you don't understand something or everything XD