Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31619784-20170328162322/@comment-33883848-20190610174329

@Burly heart.Finnaly someone mentionned this theory as i Always had the will to debunk this theory on it enterety as i hate it with all my heart since it reduce chara to a one dimensiolan evil force that only wants power.This theory is also EXTREMELY hypocrit as it says that chara has no hand in the pacifist run and is nonexistent while the player still control frisk,it says that chara only control frisk in the genocide run and only resurects here while is somehow "the player",i'am not sure how is it supposed to work but it seems like nothing more than a blame shifting.

" To answer, "Why does Chara have my name?", I point out that the prompt isn't "Name your character", it's "Name the Fallen Human". This is extremely misleading, of course, but that's just how it is sometimes"

they DONT have to share your name,thats a common misconception:toby fox said to name them after ourselves ONLY if theres no better idea.And your instructions are "name the Fallen human"not "whats your name"like in many rpgs that features the player(earthbound or even deltarune)

"After dying, merging with Asriel, dying again, etc., Chara and Asriel both become expressions of the Meta, in different ways. Asriel becomes a Spectator, able to SAVE and subsequently load, and interact with the world in certain minor ways, but with no real agency. "

Correction:he BECOMES the player,develop the completionst tendencies,view the world as "kill or be killed"like we do in every rpg,seek power or specifically to gain enough souls to became all powerfull,refers to the characetrs as "characters"instead of real people,see his world like a game and wants to keep playing with chara for all eternity which is a metaphor of how we refuse to let go our beloved characters.

"Chara, meanwhile, becomes a Player. Specifically, the "typical" RPG Player, the grinder and power-leveler. Playing in that style is what "resurrects" Chara, and they begin exerting equal will with you, the actual Player."

Theres NO evidences that chara becomes the player or especially the power-leveler.And iam not sure to quite understand,if chara is the player,why do they "resurect"only in the genoicide run???either they are the player and is so present in every run or they are not and is only a pure evil entity that control frisk in the genocide run,you arent clear dude.Canonicaly,they are present in every single run given their name in the stats,the presence of their memories in every run when frisk dies or sleep etc....They DONT resurect in genocide run,they were awakened from death since frisk fell in the underground thanks to their dt. the

And if they were really the player,i doubt that they would call your will to do the genocide run again a "perverted sentimentality"or outright say that they dont understand your completionist tendencies.

Many people use the line "every time the number increases that feeling that me"as sole evidence for this theory but in one hand a single vague line cant be an argument to prove anything and in the other,given the context ,given that chara doesnt want you to do a genocide run again while its the only run that can maximaze their stats,given that chara outright says that they did not understand that the purpose of their reincarnation is power unless you show them ,given that they are talking with frisk,i'd says that they are just saying that frisk felt them growing "stronger"when they increased their stats.

"Like you, they are outside the game"

unlike you they are EXPLICTLY in the game and in frisk body not outside the game.

"and like you they push Frisk in the direction they want to go."

and yet somehow blame frisk for all the bad actions even in the second genocide ending where they wouldnt get any benefit from it.

"As the wiki points out, when Chara "destroys the world", there's a slash animation, the screen is flooded with damage numbers, and the game window shakes like a dying monster. Chara isn't destroying the world with some incredible expression of raw power, they're attacking the game itself. The equivalent would be you, as the Player, closing the game and deleting your save - for all we know, that's what someone like Sans sees when you do that. "

i Wonder how is that supposed to prove anything.

"As Players, we know that there's no greater power you can have over a game world than tinkering with it directly, so to me it makes sense that this is the direction Chara goes in with the idea of "more power". "

and unlike the players ,chara's sole motive to destroy the world regadrless your choice is that you ALREADY pushed the world to its destruction.

In conclusion,youve provide no actual game evidences ,only speculations endorced by made up arguments.Chara isnt you and they will never be you,they have their own personality,backstory and motives that are diffrent from yours "you and i arent the same are we?this soul resonates with a Strange feeling i cannot understand those feeelings anymore.theres a Reason why you continue to destroy this world,theres a reason why you continue to destroy it.You,you are wracked with a perverted sentimentality,hmm i cannot understand these feelings anymore"