Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-3087260-20170527130902/@comment-35549737-20180131034419

Al-hasn wrote: (sight) "it's *a* coffin,there is *a* name engraved on it 'Chara'." "you called out *their* name" "name *the* fallen human" -the narrator refer to Chara as third person/someone else,in naturel/pacifist undyne is *thinking* about her friends" "papyrus *realized* that he doesn't have ears" -unless Chara can read minds,it would be impossible for them to have this information. -why would Chara be helping a HUMAN of all things? -Chara was self-aware BEFORE you fell "it is as comfortable as it looks" Chara was feeling discomfort in the tomb that they ware removed from before you fall, meaning that you DT is not what awakened them and thus don't have to be stuck with you.

I'm just going to disarm all of these points because my other threads about Chara are taking too long to write.

First: 'A' is not in the third person. When Chara tells you the coffin is just, well, a cofffin with a name on it, they're not saying 'It is their coffin'. They're just telling you what they see.

"So why don't they say 'It's my coffin'?"

Well, did you notice how Chara's narration doesn't directly reveal anything about their identity until they stop holding back on the Genocide Route? Note how Chara says the locket on Asriel's side of the room is 'right where it belongs' when you put it on. It's not because the locket is for Chara. (It's on Asriel's side, so...)

The locket is supposed to be for ''Chara's best friend. ''That used to be Asriel. In Genocide, you are Chara's best friend. (This is further supported by how Chara talks about how you'll be 'together forever' and all...)

So, what does that mean? It means Chara simply doesn't feel familiar enough with you to reveal something as sensitive as who they truly are. Similar to how Toriel won't tell you how she used to be the queen if you ask her about herself.

Second: "You called out their name" is referring to Asriel. It comes before Azzy's cutscene. It comes before you save Asriel. Everything that happens because of 'their' name is about Asriel. There's no proof for the theory that Chara is the someone else other than technicalities and assumptions.

Third: about the 'name THE fallen human' thing. Remember that's before Frisk falls on Chara's grave and wakes them up? Pay more attention before you post.

As for the 'mindreading', you've clearly forgotten three things.

1. It's possible for people to state things they're thinking out loud.

Papyrus: WAIT, HOW AM I GETTING THIS STUFF BEHIND MY EAR!?

Chara: ...Okay then?

2. Chara had lived with, and been adopted by, monsterkind for quite a while. Surely they would've learned something about monster social cues.

Undyne: is being a badass

Chara: Okay, let's see, she's karate-chopping boulders and sniffing like she's going to cry...?

3. Since Chara is dead and kind of ghostlike, there's a chance they'd be able to have more insight into the thoughts of monsters than Frisk. (I trust you've seen movies.)​​​​​​

And finally, to close things off: your suspicions of the awakening theory. Humans are shown to be capable of remaining semi-aware while dead (although still not aware of their surroundings), as Frisk is capable of recieving Chara's memories of Asgore begging them to wake up...but not capable of seeing what's going on around them.

So Chara would be dead but semi-conscious in their coffin, until Frisk awakened them to their surroundings. It's simple as that.

Is that enough evidence for you?

Yours determinedly, Blue