Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-33504407-20171031195942/@comment-28517148-20171122174439

''201X isn't a real year. You have no reason to assume 201X is 2015.'' I am not going to force it is exactly 2015. It may be 2014, 2017 or any within the range 2010 to 2019. It doesn't matter, but it is real date and I can assume it as same you have assumed that monsters have different date system than humans.

201X is actually vastly in the past, at the latest around the early 1600's ''Howdy, ! Smile for the camera!'' - VHS Tape 3

The children don't have any futuristic equipment because it's not the future, it's the past! That's what i wanted to say: they do not have things like smartphone, hoverboard or any futuristic toy or item of everyday use that is unavailable to us today, so it can't be the future, like 100 years from 201X. I also prefer present instead of your past.

All the flowers in the garden are equally mature, like Flowey Yes because they grown together until Alphys' experiment. What happiend later has no matter because Flowey has been using Reset many times untill Frisk showed up.

Except they can't speak due to a lack of DT It is because they weren't contaminated by monster dust: Asriel's dust+golden flower+Determination=Flowey.

What's to say the first flower didn't already go through many seasonal variations, and bloom multiple times? I am player not botanic but flowers can't do such thing because they are annual plants. If flower contaminated by Asriel's dust will decay before being injected with Determination, then there will be no Flowey. DT experiment must be done before life cycle of that particular flower ends. And no, flowers do not last 100 years, they even no not last one year.

by the time fall into the ruins, the garden is completely filled with flowers, and it all came from one flower from the Surface, the one that bloomed before all the rest When Frisk falls into Underground it is filled with flowers, but they all came from seeds that sticked to Asriel in village, so all of them grown in the same time. Also, the one that bloomed before all the rest simply has showed up as first and shortly after the others did the same.

We have no reason to assume this is the first cycle Yes, we do. It must be first cycle, otherwise Flowey will not be created.

i'll skip rest for now