Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26905610-20160225224529/@comment-30528249-20170113191653

He's my favorite character. He's the only character I actually really, really, r e a l l y felt bad for (( Besides Asriel/Flowey ))

I'm avoiding the other comments 'cause I already have an argument for this and I really wanted to let out.

Asgore is not a " pathetic coward ", he's definetely not strong in a mental sense, but can you blame the dude? He's the king of a trapped race who is depending on him to free them. They don't see that much good in humans until YOU convince them. Even then, they want to be free. Asgore doesn't want to tear away everyone's hopes, and he also doesn't want to go against his pacifistic ways and kill humans. Its not actually even PROVEN he killed the other humans. Even if he did, there's hints at the humans killing monsters. I mean, c'mon, DUSTY tutu?

Not to mention, the guy lost two children in one night. He thought his son would come back okay, but no, POOF his son is now dust. He knew the humans did this. So, naturally he would be fucking pissed. I would be too if someone straight up killed two people I loved dearly.

I would do the same as him, I would declare war.

He was struggling, and to make it worse, his wife left him because she was....

Disgusted?

I cannot wrap my mind around her being disgusted. I mean, I could see her being shocked and such, but she didn't do the right thing into leaving him. If someone is having a mental breakdown, you don't leave them. 'Especially if they're suicidal. '

Now, I am rolling my eyes at your reasoning, not because its stupid. It's because it's how pretty much every Undertale fan who doesn't like Asgore sounds like.

Asgore fights you in the pacifist/nuetral run because his race is still okay and hopeful. He can't just straight up say, " HOHOHO I WONT FIGHT YOU!! " (( Don't know why I added the santa laugh.. )) He has responsibility that he cant just leave. He's a fucking king.

Now for the genocide.

This could be interpreted two ways.

1. He honestly didn't know you were human. (( This doesn't really make sense because Alphys warned him, as well as Flowey but whatever tbh. ))

2. He knew. He knew you were human, and he knew it was hopeless to try to stop you. He knew you killed practically everyone. Alphys warned him in time. But... as I said, he is suicidal*, and if he killed you, he would be alone. Like... not how he was before, but... alone forever. If he absorbed your soul and went to the surface, he would definetely be killed.

I mean, he couldn't kill you anyways.

((* If you kill Flowey in a nuetral run, then do another nuetral run, the part where he's supposed to be killed by Flowey, he will kill himself and say that your freedom is what Asriel would've wanted. If you kill him in a nuetral run, he smiles, and when you kill him in a genocide, he half smiles. This could be wrong though. ))

I have a lot more an can answer almost any question about Asgore, but I have no time left to rant tbh and this was a terrible rant.

P.S. Not saying Asgore is perfect, but, Toriel is as bad as him, man.