Talk:Chara/@comment-37748092-20200123210923/@comment-44812599-20200211234703

TheHumanAmbassador "It's either saving Asriel, or Asriel takes control of the timeline away from us". he seems to already have control over the timeline at this point.

"Considering that Chara is something that has the power to erase the world, and is Soulless, and not quite physical at first, they're not exactly human anymore. So while they might not be a demon, they're not really human. You might see me call the form a "demon", but that's simply because it's the best name I have, being the only possibility directly referenced"

fair enough. though i will not do so due to what that would imply (association with hell/being evil). i prefer to call them a ghost (they where alive now the're dead yet still think and have an effect on the living).

"Or what if there was, say, a fire, and you, as a firefighter, are expected to put it out... But nobody told you how to use the tools to do it, and because of that, the building burned down? Wouldn't the agency you work for at least get some of the blame, for not properly training you?"

the agency would have an obligation to teach you how to use the tools your given, chara (as a bystander) has no obligation to do anything at all.

Tanglethefox1987,  TheHumanAmbassador, those who are telling people how they can/can't judge people.

"You say that "if someone drives recklessly, we still say that's wrong," but here's the thing. Chara only "drives recklessly" in the Genocide route. In True Pacifist, they stop at the red light, meaning you can't judge them for what happened in the Genocide route if that timeline doesn't exist in the True Pacifist route, which is the timeline in question".

this depends on the moral system you go by, some people will judge others by their potential to cause harm (e.g. judging someone who has harmfull views because of the harm they might, or could have, caused). though everyone has the potential to cause harm under the right/wrong circumstances, some have a greater potential for this than others.

going by my own moral system once chara has destroyed the universe (if they where the only person left) they would likely no longer be (though still have been) evil as the're unlikely to continue to herm people.