Talk:Chara/@comment-35543367-20180510060953/@comment-32182236-20180525002518

Alright, here's my rebuttal of Brosepisode's comment.

"She didn't kill anyone (except herself, I'm referring Chara as a "she")"

Did you forget about Sans, Asgore, and Flowey?

"also, she's the one with the idea of freeing monsters."

..Before their death. By killing humans.

"On the second No Mercy (Genocide) route, she says "Perhaps another route is better suited for you." She punishes you if you've done a Genocide Route before a True Pacifist Route, making the ending bad."

So they punish you by killing everyone as if it was a Genocide Route? They punish you for Genocide with.. Genocide? Really, this seems more like a "Since when were you the one in control" thing here.

"It's YOUR fault you did the Genocide route, so... in the genocide ending, what are you looking for? A good ending in the next route? NOPE!"

Looking to see what happens. Sans hit the nail on the head.

"Chara remembers your genocide route."

Yes, they do. So?

"Don't act like you "were possessed by Chara," because Chara is the reason why it's possible to beat Asriel Dreemurr."

Alright, two problems. First, that is a strawman fallacy. Rafip simply said Chara was evil. Chara being evil does not neccessarily mean that they CAUSED the Genocide Route-Just that they are, in fact, evil. Chara possesing Frisk is simply a strawman argument that has already been rebutted, and not one that many people really believe in anymore. So all you've managed to do is knock down a strawman. The real argument is still standing. Second, we share essence with Chara. We both have each others' memories:Our stats are displayed as Chara's, they know EXACTLY what something tastes like when WE eat it (Because they're the narrator), they tell us what we feel like.. And we're not even trying to be their partner this way. They can just tell. Just like Frisk. After all, Frisk was given Chara's memory of falling the moment THEY fell, but Chara wasn't even awakened yet. The two are bound and attached to each other.

"In fact, she's the 1st human to see Asriel, or the 1st human in the Undertale world."

Yes, they are the first to see Asriel. And? How does this help their case?