Talk:Chara/@comment-18762052-20160123020420/@comment-27670211-20160125133355

I can tell that there are 8 souls, simply by counting, yes. 5 Unnamed kids, Chara, Frisk and Asriel.

Where does it say that he has to MURDER them? I thought it said something like "After death the souls keeps around for a very short time, and then gets destroyed if it's not collected" or something along those lines. Where is it ever said that you require an actual person, killing the other person?

Why would Asgore not know where Charas soul is? I thought Asriel absorbed Chara IN the underground, not outside. How did he pass the barrier? I though he literally "became semi god, just to return his friend's corpse home". I have seen all routes multiple times, and no matter how i look at it, i am sure the barrier existed before Chara died, and Asriel used Charas soul to exit the underground. It would make no sense that nobody knew about his, especially since everytime someone absorbs a soul, their appearance changes. Monsters can see souls so well, they can even tell their color just by looking at you. Surely the king of monsters would have noticed a second soul in his son's body. Especially one that persists longer after death than his son's soul.

According to the FACTS that we know, Chara died, Asriel took the soul, Asriel left, Asriel came back, Asriel dies, Soul waits for collection or vanishes. It was never said that Charas soul was "ejected" in the "human world" or something like that, and it was never said that souls don't do the whole "collect me" thing, if they are not in the right body. Do you think the souls we see in the glass containers, are... well... not working, because they are not in the human they belong too? I would assume that they work the exact same, no matter what container they are in, you, a friend, or even a glass.

I still can't find a single thing that makes me believe that there are 8 kids. If there were 8 kids, there would be so many plot holes... If there is 8 kids, what happened to Charas soul? Why was Asriels weak monster soul, around for longer, than charas super stong human soul? Is basically everything flowey says, a lie? and i mean EVERYTHING? Even when he says "feels good to have a soul again?" Because no matter how you look at it... if THIS guy was made from a soul, then he HAS a soul...

No... When Asriel got back home and died, Asgore got human soul Nr1 and Asriels soul created Flowey.

Does anyone have anything that disproves this?