Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28925112-20160730202210/@comment-30586036-20161201222545

Ifechi2647 wrote: Snailmailfromtoriel wrote: @OpelSpeedster

1) Toriel might have left Asgore after the first human was killed.

2) Only determination souls can come back from the dead. 1. Toriel DID leave Asgore after that; he declared war on humanity again and she left.

2. And if that is true, shouldn't Chara have been able to come back a long time ago? Remember, she only comes back on a Genocide Route. Did she leave after Chara died or after he killed the first human soul to fall down after that (I always assume it was Patience that was the first after Chara but I could be wrong). And Chara couldn't come back because determination requires a conscious decision to stay alive and LOAD and Chara wanted to die so Asriel could absorb her soul and take the other souls required to break the barrier. Once Asriel died, so did she because he had absorbed her coul into his, so she couldn't reset after that.