Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-27089028-20170801184719

TheHumanAmbassador wrote:

-Because the date Undertale takes place determines if it's possible is older than like 20 years old. Undyne doean't know Toriel, so she couldn't be around before 201X, and her username StrongFish91 suggests she was born during XX91. The earliest date she could be born therefore is 2091. They say that Undertale happens in 211X, making Undyne too young now to have met a human earlier. And Undyne meeting a human earlier than Frisk is a big part of the debate, due to her both instantly recognizing you as a human (evidence she did), and not realizing what Alphys meant by humans being determined until Frisk showed up (Evidence that either she didn't or Frisk has special amounts of determination). So there's evidence to suggest she has met one. But, if the date turns out to be proven to be 211X, their evidence is much more significant than Undyne knowing that you're human, and she probably didn't.

-I have an actual in-universe explanation, but it's quite complicated, so complicated in fact that Tsskyx thinks "Toby did it" is a better explanation. It's a matter of how well it explains the concept vs how simple it is.

-And which one of the ones is best for us to do is what this part of the debate is about.

-That's actually their explanation. I'm trying to show that this explanation doesn't really make sense. - Does nobody pay attention to Gerson, Monsters don't age unless they have kids.

- A common saying is if you can't explain something simply you don't understand it as well as you could, I'm sure you'll find a way 'round it though.

- Depends on your preference really like most things, there's not really a 'best' way know what I'm saying?

- Have fun with that.