Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20170602170443/@comment-32182236-20170725220605

Starscream1998 wrote: Fire safety and the future of an entire race are not equivalent.

This is a world where time travel, resurrection and magic exist you'll forgive me if I find your claim that a solution cannot exist rather hollow. Your solution is segregation...well to say that I don't exactly find your solution thrilling would be an understatement.

Yet it took one child to change both Asgore and Undyne, the whole point of Undertale is that with a little bit of determination and mercy nothing is impossible.

Well I'm sorry but I do not share that belief because there are plenty of Monsters who clearly want nothing to do with a war, if you're going to try and convince me Monsters like Napstablook wanted war you might as well tell me Mettaton has stage fright. Also, why are you worrying about an evil human stealing Monster souls, 1 Human soul is worth more than all the Monster souls in terms of power.

Look, I understand where you're coming from you're trying to prevent the worst case scenario by stopping it from ever existing in the first place but have you ever stopped to consider that by doing that you're creating the problem? No progress of a species was ever made by not taking risks, not once in the history of humanity and that still stands. You're right in that something needs to be done to ensure that a rogue Monster Frisk didn't encounter doesn't try to become a God but segregation is not the answer, you'll just be undoing everything the True Pacifist Ending stood for. You know, I think you're right about that. A few people dying from fires won't threaten all of the human race like the monster incident would. This analogy doesn't work anymore. I suppose the best option is to simply stop using this analogy. So, let's stop with this analogy and just get to the point.

Well, let's see, we have magical barriers, my proposed solution, we have injecting stuff with determination, which doesn't end well.. You think we can figure out a solution? Go ahead, try and think of one. I'll be waiting.. We can continue the other parts as you think of a solution to this problem. And remember, it must work 100% of the time, because if it can fail, than it WILL fail, given enough time. Just like if I keep picking random numbers from 1 to a trillion, I will eventually get 3726.

"There are a lot of Floweys out there. And not everything can be resolved just by being nice"-Asriel Dreemurr

No, the message of Undertale is actually NOT that and mercy will always prevail. In fact, we're told it WON'T always work.

..Well, most main monsters do. We don't know about Napstablook. (Hey, he never outraight states he does or doesn't. Mettaton literally performs. Mettaton having stage fright is WAY less believable. Unless you mean him revealing his identity as Happstablook.)

And why am I worrying about a human being the one destroying everyone, you ask? Well, a monster with a human SOUL has MUCH more power than just, say, two humans. It's unfathomable. The combination is more than the sum of its parts. This is most likely because the magic of the monster is combined with the physical matter of the human, so this beast has "the best of both worlds". Their magic is more than likely also strengthened by the sheer power of the human SOUL. Asriel had the power to destroy everyone in the village. And I come to stand that a human with a monster SOUL is just as powerful as a monster with a human one. Again, the one who causes the end of civilization may either be a monster or a human.

There's a difference between taking a risk that at worst will make a few people die, or the idea just failing and the one coming up with it being jailed, and something that could literally end all civilization. Why do you think we haven't found any aliens? My guess is because they all destroyed themselves by taking risks like these. A setback is better than literal extinction that can never be recovered from. We have a way of keeping both races alive, and living peacefully, so shouldn't we just play it safe instead of risking extinction of not one, but TWO races? Also, if you read some of my replies, I don't consider the True Pacifist Ending as the best ending. The point of the ending is that while you can solve some things by being nice, not everything can. The best ending is the Pacifist variation of the Neural Ending. (Not killing anyone, but monsters aren't living with numans either.)