Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20190820122909/@comment-26907577-20200107151044

"Yet all through the No Mercy Run, "Frisk" does things without player consent."
 * THA is arguing that Frisk is not under the complete control of the player. They do things on their own, without any influence- Chara or player.

"So if we, the player, decide to keep hitting the dummy, they learn that hitting things is ok, and attack the dummy with increasing ferocity on each subsequent hit."
 * We DON'T keep hitting the dummy. We hit it once, and how hard Frisk hits and how hard Chara says Frisk feels about it is dependent on LV.

"If Gaster's lab entries happen at a different place in time.. why does his Darkest Experiment entry seemingly wake up Flowey during Alphy's timeline? Alphys' own actions didn't wake up Flowey, and she has no idea where he's gone. "The Flower's Gone" is Entry 18. And Entry 16 is "No NO NO NO!", seemingly building anticipation up to 17."
 * Maybe the Darkest Experiment didn't wake up Flowey. Reminder: Gaster's Entry 17 is about darkness growing to an impossible level. How does that have to do with Flowey?

"Why do we find both Entry 17's floating in the same nebulous void in the game code, one written by Alphys, and one written by Gaster?"
 * We don't. We find one in an inaccessible room, and one in unused game strings. Different nebulous voids.

About Sans and Alphys's relationship being "overwhelming"? No.

"Alphy's cameras are directly helping Sans know when Frisk shows up."
 * Or, you know, he knew when Frisk showed up because he was manning his sentry station. And then shortcutted one room back to sneak up on Frisk.

"And Alphys is aware that Papyrus has called everyone else on the phone to stop the Asgore fight.. except "Her", meaning Toriel, who Sans called himself."
 * Toriel came on her own. Here's the full dialogue before anybody else shows up:

What a miserable creature, torturing such a poor, innocent, youth... Do not be afraid, my child. It is I, TORIEL, your friend and guardian. At first, I thought I would let you make your journey alone... But I could not stop worrying about you. Your adventure must have been so treacherous. ... and ultimately, it would burden you with a horrible choice. To leave this place, you would have to take the life of another person. You would have to defeat ASGORE. However... I realized... I cannot allow that. It is not right to sacrifice someone simply to let someone leave here. Is that not what I have been trying to prevent this whole time? So, for now, let us suspend this battle. As terrible as ASGORE is... He deserves mercy, too. "It's pretty obvious that Sans and Toriel have been friends for a very long time"
 * Yes.

"and that he's told her all about Papyrus via texting, even if she never knew "Sans"' actual name or voice."
 * No no no! They talked through a door! It's not hard to do! Why do you keep insisting they texted each other? We have a perfectly sensible explanation for this!

Now, the dogs... Alphys does have a bag of dog food. In the normal Lab, that Frisk can just walk in on. He could be referencing that. It's not a solid argument, I understand that, but it takes yours down from "overwhelming".