Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25672219-20170405004515/@comment-27701762-20170405070157

The herobriner wrote: first of all, yes it is true only one human is capable of RESETing, but that doesn't mean that no one else could potentially remember. as you may recall, Flowey also remembers through the RESETs and LOADs because he has an abnormally large amount of determination. it wouldn't just be a single human who could remember, but only one who COULD reset. This doesn't help, as it raises the same complications I already mentioned: the one person who has control of the timeline has to be in charge of the battle against the monsters, or else the whole theory falls apart.

And someone that important doing something that out of the ordinary should be mentioned somewhere in the game. I already noted that monsters at least retain some memory of timeline resets, so they should be able to figure out if humans are essentially cheating by undoing losses. Yet this is never even hinted at.

two, while it may be true that a monster with a single human soul might not be able to single handedly take on humanity, it would still be able to kill enough humans to either A, power up a bunch of other monsters, or B, absorb the SOULs itself and become effectively godlike. I'll accept this possible set of events, but it relies on the theory itself being true. That the story can be crafted does not mean the theory holds water.

third, we have NO guarentee that Chara was able to RESET. yes, they may have had a red SOUL, but that power could have belonged to anyone else. probably somone who didn't know about Chara's death or didn't care. it could have been literally  ANY human on the surface. again, not EVERY human can RESET, just the single most determined one. This then raises the question of why the one person in the entire world who has the overwhelming determination to rewrite the very existence of the world is...Frisk. This makes no sense unless Frisk is one of only a few humans alive. And before you raise that possibility, such a tale would be entirely inconsistent with the ability of humans to reset, because whoever had the power would have been able to use said power to prevent whatever wiped out so many people.

fourth, when someone RESETs, they go back to the point in time when they first got that ability, as evident by Flowey. he always went back to the flowers in Asgore's garden. Frisk (im not going to argue the existance of the player. thats a whole different issue i wont get into) first had acces to that power when they woke up on the flowerbed in the ruins. This actually makes things even more confusing. If Frisk only gains the power upon entering the Underground, it means that the power shifts between humans, so the one human who has the most determination could be one person one day, and another person the other. Which means you need an incredibly convoluted set of events where it just so happens that the one person who has control is in charge of fighting the monsters, and that person never loses control of the timeline, then it is passed down to whoever happens to have the most determination, until one day it falls upon a child who falls into the Underground. Actually, scratch that, over whatever period of time between Chara's death and Frisk's fall, it falls onto six separate children who just happened to fall into the Underground, who then conveniently lost their determination at some point during their trip allowing the monsters to claim their souls. Then Frisk falls in, just so happens to have the most determination in all of the world, and has enough to retain that determination all throughout their trip through the Underground.

And then...loses that power to a spirit once they exit the Underground? Since of course, the world can be reset back to when Frisk falls in, but Frisk isn't the one who performs that reset.