Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25983468-20160329120934/@comment-26887879-20160329184820

Mabian wrote: PancryPancreas5 wrote: Ah, okay. My point/theory is that you need to have certain amount of determination to gain control over save/reset in a first place which she still doesn't have, well mainly because she's a monster. I think this is the way to go. If any amount of determination is sufficient to control the ability to save and load, then presumably none of the humans who fell down should have died unless they specifically gave up, since humans souls innately have determination.

But, I have noticed something interesting before fighting her in pacifist/neutral run, when I got to the cilff where she holds her speech during my pacifist run, there was no save point, but after she finished the speech, a save point appeared. Could it be that her determination created that save point? But like I said, even if that is true, I doubt that she will ever have any use of it...

I think it's actually the other way around, so to speak: Frisk is the one who creates the save point, as the speech has now given them the determination to "defeat" Undyne. That one actually makes more sense...