Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-27276934-20151215003135/@comment-26887879-20160502100230

Nightblade1337 wrote: PancryPancreas5 wrote: @Anarchy44,  Hm, that might be the case. I can see the two having argument where Toriel tries to reason with him, and he angrily refuses her advice being determined to start a war against humans. But, judging how the monsters attack human even if they are a pacifist, when they fall underground, who said humans won't try to attack monster... I know monsters have more use of attacking humans (their SOUL), but who says humans would trust an OP monster who absorbed human soul...

Things happened quickly, both of their children died in one day, it must have been so horible for both of them, they did some things without thinking straight. It is implied that LOTS of years have passed between Chara/Asriel's death and Frisk's arrival. At first, Asgore was in rage and saddnes and blamed entire human kind for the loss of his children, but over time, he probably calmed down and realised not all humans are guilty for his loss. When he met previous fallen humans, he realised they were just scared, lost children who want to go home and started feeling symphaty for them. Despite that, he did what he had to, for entire monster kind's sake...

@PeridotThePerky,  Haha, yeah, but we don't know Sans' real age. He can range from late early twenties to around hundred years. I don't remeber his age being ever mentioned. But judging how he calls her "old lady", he's probably much younger than her... Monsters age weirdly.

I got it down to a Science.

You see, it goes back to the "201X" mystery. As monsters are so different from humans, it makes sense that they may not use the same dating system as we do. And as far as I can tell, they aren't exactly religious, and probably haven't even heard of Jesus Christ, and if they have, they likely aren't Christian (compassion and love is in their very being, they don't need Christianity to explain it to them). Thus, they would not use the BC/AD BCE/CE system.

I have hypothesized that, perhaps monsters create new calendars when a new King or Queen claims the throne, and that "X" is a figure appended to all years. Thus, "201X" means "201 of King Asgore."

Now, as "201X" is still a bit weird translated over to our calendars, I decided to account for technology present in the Underground. My dino-waifu Alphys conquering the Law of Conservation of Matter and trashing everything humans know about robotics and artificial intelligence and lasers and shit aside, when Chara was around, there seemed to be a lot of 1980s and 1990s technology in use. VCRs being a big one. This puts 201X anywhere from 1975, when the market for VCRs started booming, to 2003, when CD/DVD outnumbered and obsoleted VCR.

Subtracting 201 from any of those years, that puts Asgore's coronation anywhere from 1774 to 1802.

Assuming Puberty does real for Monsters as much as it does us, peak physical maturity could be... 20 years old, let's say, for the sake of an even number. So for Boss Monsters, who do not age until their children vampirize their life force enough to reach their maturity cap themselves, their forever-age is about 20. Meaning Toriel and Asgore are both physically 20 by the time they both take the throne. Whenever Asgore married Toriel does not actually matter for this reason.

Since Asriel is anywhere from 8-12 years old by 201X (let's assume it's 1984, smack in the middle somewhere), that means Asgore and Toriel took 189-193 years to finally Marvin Gaye and Get It On. Meaning they're still 20 something by that time.

Also meaning they have aged 8-12 years (give or take) before Asriel died.

Now let's assume Frisk fell into the barrier in 2015 or 2016. About 30 years for a bunch of kids to fall in after Chara before Frisk.

Therefore, I have deduced that Asgore and Toriel are chronologically 250+ years old. Biologically, they are at a minimum of 28 to 32 years old.

Not even that old. Ship away, guys. Great theory! It makes sense that monster have their own calendar... Lots of people theorise that there's a hundred year gap between Frisk's and Chara's fall. Unless Frisk is from far future, there is no way there were VHS somewhere around 1915. (let's pretend Frisk fell in 2015., the year of game's release).