Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28175157-20160624105722/@comment-4885168-20161124112540

TheClever$ wrote: I see a lot of people insisting in the whole "you misguided Chara/Chara had a bad past and is actually good" thing. I can prove it wrong. I waited a lot before posting this to make sure I did not have any flaws, but if you see something wrong, please correct me.

Let's begin with the fact that Chara was a murderer since the very beggining. Who wanted to kill innocent humans? Chara. And while Asriel does tell us that they hated humanity, it's still no excuse. This little thing still wanted to kill people who did nothing wrong. The motive? I have no idea, but it's not a good motive, that I'm sure of. Either for fun, out of hatred, any of those.

Chara laughed at the fact that Asgore, who acted as a loving father and only wished good for them, got sick because of them. According to what Asriel tells us, Chara was pretty insensitive and cold. Even before we "misguided" them.

And then there goes Frisk. If the "Chara is the narrator" theory is true (which I highly believe is), then the Genocide narrator dialogue gives us enough proof to prove that Chara is as cold and insensitive as Asriel told us they were. The ACT options for the characters during a Genocide are all cold. Toriel's says "not worth talking to", that despite the fact she took care of us and acted as a mother to Chara in the past. Papyrus' says "forgettable", despite being an absolute cutie who offered a freaking hug despite the fact you're already a murderer. And so on.

Chara still takes control of you from here to there. They make you skip Papyrus' puzzles because they believe he's a bother and have no time for his tricks; they don't let you decide. And that smiley face when you encounter a monster. You, Chara, or both, are happy because you're going to kill more.

Let's not forget that Asriel and Chara were good friends. According to the tapes, they were very close to each other, even though who knows if Chara was just faking that. But still, the mere fact that Asriel stopped Chara for murdering people is, apparently, enough excuse for them to murder their one and only friend savagely. Innocent? Of course. Chara is manipulative. They only wanted to see the flowers from above, they said, but when they got there, they used Asriel to kill people. Flowey also kept helping you all over the Underground, perhaps as some kind of repay, but Chara only took advantage of that without caring.

And I doubt you ever misguided this oh so innocent child. Chara supposedly follows you since the beggining, as the flower patch you fall on is where their body was buried. If you do a True Pacifist after a Genocide, then that should get Chara at least confused. First you kill monsters for fun, then you help them all you can and get them to become your best friends. No. At the end, Chara is still Chara. They're still Mr./Mrs. Psychopath.

That is all I got. If you have anything to comment, please do tell me.