Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31371445-20170222233857/@comment-27136653-20180922204647

"The term power used in the second plaque is used to talk about the ability of the strength of the soul."

No, it's used as a noun, which itself is an object, and the subject is the pronoun "its", substituting for the noun "SOUL". And the word 'power' is substituting for the word 'strength'. It's not the "power of the strength of the soul". That's both redundant AND meaningless.

Also, switching them literally doesn't change anything at all, you're just overcomplicating it. This isn't some scientific treasure hunt, learn take Toby's words with a grain of salt.

"As shown by the SOUL Modes and other traits, SOULS have multiple powers in them."

Those come from the monsters, not from our soul.

"that would have gone on as a stalemate for all eternity if Frisk hadn't gotten through to him."

It cannot be a stalemate, if there's ONE person holding the power, which is Asriel. And our method of escaping battles via closing the game is cheating.

You know what, I'll just say it, reloading in the middle of the fight should not be permissible, nor canon, because it's not only incredibly meta, kinda like Oneshot with its out-game program file manipulations, but is also not acknowledged anywhere but in the Omega Flowey battle, but my guess is that because there, we've had no battle interface available.

"Once he did that, he'd be the most determined being, and the ability would go to him."

He already is, else our soul would have no need to refuse, it could just shatter and execute a normal reload.

Also notice, reloading via quitting in that fight doesn't change Asriel's dialogue here. He always remembers reloads, even these ones, and even resets. This just goes to show that Toby Fox FORGOT about the possibility of people trying to quit the game during this fight.

"He said and tried to do it BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE THE POWER! THERE IS NO IMPLICATION THAT HE HAS THE POWER!"

So you're saying Toby Fox lied to us. Excellent! Way to impose your head canon onto others.

Besides, as I've said a million times already, why else would our soul refuse, if not precisely because of this?

"It makes NO SENSE for the ability to be split all of a sudden, when up 'til now, it's been a package deal."

Well, learn to deal with new information. This is just the way it is. If Frisk had the power, nothing would be at stake and we could just reload after dying as per usual. If Asriel had the power, he would not need to kill us first. It's clearly split.

This isn't just my theory. This is a direct observation of the canon which you chose to wholly ignore. Pathetic.

"Except Asriel wants to completely obliterate you SPECIFICALLY so that you won't be around to even have the ability, and gain it in turn."

I don't see how that's any different from dying normally. He isn't doing anything new, he's still attacking our soul the usual way, and our soul is still taking damage the usual way. It would be possible if he could obliterate the essence, but who knows if he knows how to do that, or whether it's possible to begin with. And whether he has enough time to do that before it moves back in time again.

And for the last time, he already has the power to reset, for the same reason that Omega Flowey does. So we cannot possibly outmatch him just by making our DT fluctuate. We couldn't back then, and we can't now. I think it was well-established by the game that the being with the most determination takes control, and that Omega Flowey took control precisely because of this rule. Ergo, Asriel did too, meaning, the ONLY reason he's still unable to reset, is because of my explanation.