Thread:Bopdog111/@comment-5956954-20160829235939/@comment-5956954-20161004091223

That's a logical fallacy if you say attacking the protagonist makes you the antagonist. Two protagonists can be fighting each other like Batman and Superman, and it is either the person you root for is the protagonist or they are both the protagonists to you and you want them to stop fighting each other. Lots of people prefer the former, but you know, Batman is just that great.

Here is the thing. I've said it before. Asriel was an antagonist at the last fight until the end of the fight because he was under Flowey's mindset and mentality. He was the main antagonist at that point in time, not the whole game. Flowey was the antagonist the whole game not by encountering you directly, but by using resets to morbidly experiment with the underground, stalk the protagonist, manipulate the innocent (Papyrus), literally murder everyone multiple times in multiple timelines, and attempt to kill the protagonist, steal their SOUL, reset the entire timeline before it started with him as a flower and experiment with what is outside of the underground with no regrets or consequences for his actions.

What does Asriel do? Suffer as Flowey, the real main antagonist? He even admitted he had done weird stuff as a flower and regrets it completely. He was a super sweet and caring kid who took a fallen human (Chara) to their home and considered them his best friend. When Asriel died, the underground, not just Asgore and Toriel, were crumbling from the lack of hope and for losing the king and queen's children, so they were cared about in the underground and not condemned to death like the protagonist in the genocide route. He even said to the protagonist's face who is basically a saint that will attempt to heal the most evil of psychopaths/sociopaths to leave them be, rightfully serving himself justice for what he has done as himself and as Flowey.

You can obviously argue that "Flowey is Asriel, though, but he lived long enough to have a different personality." That's correct. That personality is Flowey. Asriel is gone. The real Asriel is in the darkest recesses of Flowey's mind being devoured slowly by his evil and hatred until there is nothing left. Even at the end of the game, Asriel is not his true self. It's still Flowey, but with temporary compassion and feelings which is a basic trait for living beings like humans and animals.

Anyways, the point is, Asriel is actually gone. We only see him in his form manifested by Flowey through recollected memories. Flowey reigns supreme as Asriel and as the main antagonist of the whole game. They are two separate people after so many years of living.

All in all, Asriel is not the "main antagonist" of the game. If you still think so, then, hehehe, whatever then, I guess.