Thread:Rafip/@comment-28517148-20170827134615/@comment-32182236-20171129013927

...You're looking at a computer. How is that a laser? And while our plants don't need to rearrange themselves, neither does the CORE-But it still does, likely to ease navigation, or possibly as a trap against intruders-If it keeps rearranging itself, criminals are back at square 1 when it comes to figuring out the layout of the place. Also, what about analyzing timelines? We can't do that, and the monsters (Sans plus whoever he's working with, as evidenced by "Our reports showed a massive anomaly in the time-space continuum") can-Therefore, they are superior to us in technology, and don't get it all from us.

"And we are producing anime in large quantities and in the meantime we still went to the Moon."

So what? The monsters could have gone to the moon too if it wasn't for a little something called The Barrier. They have all these futuristic technology, but not anime, because they had no interest in fiction-There's not a single fictional book in the entire game. Not one.

"When Asriel died and turned into dust his Soul also shattered and was lost. However, after he was brought back to live he stated: I soon realized I didn't feel ANYTHING about ANYONE. My compassion had disappeared. He lost it along with his Soul, so it has been made at least of compassion."

Correlation does not imply causation-There's a second, much more likely possibility-The fact that flowers don't have emotions. Flowey is a flower, and his flower brain simply doesn't have the capacity to feel love. Humans can, monsters can, but not flowers-Though cases like these may have lead up to the monsters' fallacious claim-Or it's just propaganda. And considering the examples I cited of monsters being contradictory to what their SOULs are supposedly made of, it's the one I use. (Fun theory-Asgore wanted to give the monsters false hope because he too believes that's what monster SOULs are composed of, and that if monsters lose hope, they literally lose part of their SOUL, and that it would fail to function. Of course, Asgore himself has no hope, and nothing's happening to him, so that's debunked.)

"despite being heavily charged with DT none of flowers gained the will to live no matter if they were alive or dead. Except for one flower that turned into Flowey, but responsible for this is not only Determination but also Asriel's dust that has contaminated that flower. This proves that pure Determination is still not enough to create life from something that is not alive, like flowers."

The reason why the other flowers showed no sign of change is because such change wouldn't be visible. Alive or not, flowers aren't naturally sentient. Asriel's case is different-His essense lived on, giving sentience to the flower. The other flowers, however, would have been merely alive, as regular flowers. Of course, the vessel itself is Flowey, and Alphys noted FLOWEY was no different than the control cases-This can only mean Alphys didn't inject enough determination into Flowey yet-It's when she decides to start injecting everything with LOTS of DT that it's enough. Though considering that she notes nothing about the other flowers doing nothing later on, only saying "The flower's gone", she likely ONLY injected that ONE flower with determination, along with the test subjects that would eventually become the Amalgamtes. Theoretically, if you injected a flower with no essence with DT, it would be brought back to life as a regular flower.