Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20190721003717/@comment-32182236-20191023195018

This means that that either Patience Human died prior to the Garbage Dump, or they fell earlier than Justice.

Either way, the Justice Human's items were almost certainly not moved by a later human. (Later on, if we have to, we can entertain the idea, but let's start without it.)

I still don't see the Cyan Human dropping the items, though. Why would they drop them if it isn't because they found something better?

If it is because they found something better, than what were those items for them to pick up?

Got your answer? Okay, where did THOSE items come from?

Eventually, they'd have to go all the way back to Chara (unless there's another starting place-If there is, I'd like to see it.)

This would imply that the Locket and Knife were both left in the Ruins.

Let's say Cyan was the first. They find their very strong armor, and take it with them, all the way until their death.

Orange would have made it father than the previous-The only item besides the weaker Cyan items is the Locket, so they had to take it farther.

This goes on, until Justice makes it to the end. In this scenario, nobody makes it past Waterfall. Meaning the Stained Apron has no reason to be there.

But what if we tinkered around with it a bit? Maybe Kindness fell after Justice, and didn't want to take the Justice Human's items-After all, someone dropped it, and maybe the kind thing to do is not to take it. This means Justice made it all the way to Asgore, and that's when Chara's items reached their destination.

Which goes against what we said earlier.

And we can't say Kindness took it after Justice, and still say they didn't take Justice's item.

Okay, what if it was, say, Purple that brought the Locket to its current place? Green and Yellow both died in their respective places, and Purple found the Locket where they left their items in Waterfall.

Gerson is after the dump, so Justice wouldn't have been able to take it. And Kindness doesn't have to take anything-They just died in Hotland.

If the Locket was in Waterfall, someone else died there earlier than Purple.

Yet we see no items there.

This means whoever died there must have had a pretty strong item. An item that could have been taken later on by another human.

So if Perseverance is the one that brought the locket to its current place, then someone fell after Purple that wasn't Yellow or Green.

So that means either the Locket reached Asgore's Castle earlier than Perseverance.. Or the standard order is incorrect. Or the Patience Human actually did die in the Ruins.

Or I'm missing something.