Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32182236-20180323153236/@comment-32182236-20180408144205

There's actually more evidence for this. Let's take a look at Chara's speech, line after line, and show why this shows that human essence exists.

"Greetings. I am ."

Nothing to see here. Chara's just introducing themselves finally.

"Thank you. Your power awakened me from death."

WE are the ones who awakened them from death. But all we have is determination.. Therefore, it was our determination and ONLY our determination that brought them back.

"My 'human soul'. My 'determination'. They were not mine, but YOURS."

"Were". So Chara didn't just show up at the end. But we already proved that, didn't we? Anyways, their "human SOUL" and "determination" came from you. Because they never had their own.

"At first, I was so confused. Our poan had failed, hadn't it?"

Chara and Asriel's plan, no doubt.

"Why was I brought back to life?"

Bruh. There's a thing called LOADing? You have a red SOUL? You died underground with Asriel? So that means you could LOAD? OH WAIT...

"Frisk, when  and I combined our SOULs together.."

They couldn't. Their SOUL was combined with Asriel's. So, when Asriel's SOUL shattered.. That was also Chara's. (Or we could say Asriel actually wanted to die and didn't let Chara reload.. Actually, we can't. That would mean Asriel knew about the SAVE ability, and therefore wouldn't be suprised to discover the ability as a flower.)

"You. With your guidance".

Once again. WE brought Chara back.

"I reaized the purpose of my reincarnation. Power. Together, we eradicated the enemy and became strong."

Togther. Once again, we were together from the very start, partner. It was all for power..

"HP. ATK. DEF. GOLD. EXP. LV. When a number goes up, that feeling you get.. That's me. '."

Looks like Chara already has some control, but not over what we do, no. They're the one encouraging us to raise those numbers. But it's up to us to actually do it.

The rest is Chara telling us to erase the world. There's nothing left for us here, so let's move onto the SOUL exchange. Oh, by the way, you can't not destroy the world. Since when were you the one in control anyway? *insert Chara jumpscare*

"Interesting. You want to go back. You want to go back to the world you destroyed."

Never mind that. Killing all the monsters means destroying everything, after all.

Actually though, there's nothing useful here either, other than the fact that Chara takes your SOUL. Let's move onto the next speech, shall we?

"''. The demon that comes when people call its name."

I never called your name, demon! *insert image of the enter name screen* Wait.. You mean that counted? You mean, by deciding you name, I called out to your name? TOBY!! *Dogsong plays* ...I can't believe I've been railroaded like that.

"It doesn't matter where. It doesn't matter when. Time after time, I will appear."

Chara, I only "called" your name once!

"And, with your help, we will eradicate the enemy and become strong."

Chara, we did that. Can you please just take me to the next world? I think I need to kill everyone in Underfell.

"HP. ATK-"

Wait, this is the same from last time, isn't it? Skip. *ding*

"But. You and I are not the same, are we?"

Of course we aren't. I'm to the point, and you baited-and switched me! You said we'd move onto the next world! Why didn't you?

Okay, maybe that other speech wasn't so useless. But, then again, Chara being a troll probably has nothing to do with the point anyway.

"This SOUL resonates with a strange feeling. There is a reason you coinue to recreate this world. There is a reason you continue to destroy it."

So it's our SOUL.

"You are wracked with a perverted sentimentality."

What? Because I recreated the world? You're the one who didn't take me to the next world you promised!

"Hmm. I cannot understand these feelings anymore."

Anymore? So you could before? I wonder, though, why? Oh, wait!

"I soon realized I didn't feel ANYTHING about ANYONE."-Flowey

SOULless being don't have emotion. Chara understood these feelings when they were human, but without a SOUL, they can't. We have confirmation that Chara is SOULless, from Chara, who is alive, talking to us. There is NO way Toby would miss a contradiction in plain sight like that, especially when he was working for YEARS crafting the story. The contradiction is too obvious, especially when you're the one making it. He was writing lines for living Chara, that prove they're SOULless. It's clear his intentions were that Chara could live with no SOUL-Meaning, that SOUL is not the same as essence, even for humans. It also parallels Asriel's situation, but this time, Chara doesn't even get a body until the end. This is no coincidence. It's clear human essence was a planned, real thing. Toby didn't have to explain it for humans because he already explained the concept with monsters-Besides, this is the underground, where monsters are more relevant than humans.

I rest my case.. For this post. If you have any objections, I'll still object back. But still. There it is, my case.