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TheHumanAmbassador wrote: If justice was the most determined, they wouldn't have given up on their fight with Asgore. Frisk was the only one who refused to give up. Even in the Asriel fight, their determination was enough to stop a GOD OF HYPERDEATH. If Frisk could stop THAT, (And Asriel DID want to fight you and purge the timeline, so we can't use that excuse), and the others were more determined than him, why couldn't they defeat Asgore?

Undyne doesn't know what Alphys meant by humans being determined, despite the fact that she fought other humans before you. If they were as determined as you, she'd be able to figure it out. ESPECIALLY since two of them actually PASSED her!! (Kindness and Justice)

Red is a part of the spectrum just like the others. A lack of traits would be black. (Black is the absense of color) All the traits combined would be white. What, are we just adding energy to red light? I don't think integrity is "between" patience and perservearance. Each of the traits has their own wave on the spectum.

That's only for human SOULS though:Monster SOULS do not show their traits. Undyne OBVIOUSLY has the trait of bravery, but her soul isn't orange! (So it's not the theory of everything that explains both human AND monster SOULS, despite how cool that would be. :3) Frisk refused, and won. Others refused, and lost and lost and lost and lost and then gave up. Think about that. And Frisk winning the Asriel fight was just the culmination of his journey. The predominant motif was determination, which was carried out by the save points, but that doesn't mean it was exclusive to Frisk.

Also, Undyne did not fight any other humans. Not really. Her only knowledge about humans comes from anime.

And if you think that the position of items indicates where the humans ended their journey, then that would mean that none got to Asgore, which isn't true. Also, the position of the items is most likely reversed, since the older items were most likely picked up and carried for some time by the other kids.

Also, black could be a trait as well. Any color could be a trait. Why do you think the spectrum of colors has anything to do with this? "All traits combined would be white" - only if we're using additive combining. If you for example mix various painting colors together, you get brown, not white.

" What, are we just adding energy to red light?  I don't think integrity is "between" patience and perservearance." Honestly, what are you even trying to say? First you imply that the souls are based on a spectrum, and then you ridicule this idea.

And lastly, all characters in Undertale can show signs of all 7 traits, including Frisk. Not sure what you wanted to say there either. What theory of everything?

A word of advice, do some actual research first before you reply again. Here are my sources:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6gS2LPXdIc5Zll6YzVna3dZQms

http://nochocolate.tumblr.com/ <- I really recommend you look around this one for theories about the meaning of red souls

http://saveloadreset.tumblr.com/

http://tsskyx.tumblr.com/ <- I'd say my blog is a good index for all the other links in this paragraph