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Part 2-From the War to Chara

Once the monsters were sent underground, they still feared further attacks. So, they continued to flee, all the way until they reached the end of the caverns, where they then made their city:HOME. The arrangement of HOME seems to imply they ended up banished in the Ruins hole, as otherwise, the monsters who might have been left behind in Snowdin would find themselves walking into HOME by going right through the King and Queen's personal house and throne. Yet, given the likely very low monster population, this might not be much of a problem.

At some point after this, Asriel was born. Around this time, Asgore got his Fluffybuns nickname.

And yet, at the start of 201X on the monster calendar, monsters, fearing the humans no longer, started to move towards New Home.. Despite the fact this puts them further away from the humans. However, the monsters perhaps already knew about the New Home hole, and in fact the one in Waterfall as well, and placed HOME the furthest away from the Ruins hole and Waterfall hole combined-The end of what would later become the Ruins, so this may not be a problem either. The evidence doesn't seem to support either side right now.

But, in the journey to New Home, they went through harsh snowland, wet swamps, and soaring heat, until they finally ended up in New Home. Given that this detail was mentioned in the journey to New Home, but not in the journey to "the end of the caverns", I currently side with the monsters being sent to the Ruins hole. But really, the evidence supports both sides.

At the end of "201X", Chara fell into the Ruins. Since Asriel found Chara, this means the move to New Home must have been gradual. And indeed, it would need to be:The monsters going on the journey would have to build new towns on the way, and find a safe path for the others-Led by the king, so they have a leader when they reach their destination, as Queen Toriel stays behind with the civilians, and the future heir-Asriel Dreemurr. But very soon after Chara fell (I'm talking more than likely less than a day after), it was time for the civilizations to make their move as well, as the castle in the Ruins does not contain a bed or chair for Chara.

Now, the hotel complex that would eventually become the MTT Resort had a memorial fountain of royalty, made in 201X. So someone of great importance had died at that time. It couldn't have been Chara or Asriel, for reasons I'll explain later, and we know it's not a previous king, because we already know Asgore was the first. So this must have been someone else, who was still important enough to be considered royalty. This was very likely the Royal Scientist. But.. Probably not Gaster, for reasons I'll explain when I explain why the fountain can't be a memorial to Chara or Asriel.

Chara was adopted as royalty, and bonded with Asriel Dreemurr. However, their peace did not last long. Chara died of (self-inflicted) buttercup poisoning, as part of a plan. A plan to cross the Barrier, gather six humans, and free everyone. However, Chara carried their own dead body to the golden flowers, which attracted humans to attack, thinking Asriel killed Chara. Chara wanted to kill these humans, but Asriel refused, and took blow after blow. They did retreat, but it was too late-They were dying.

...So, when did this happen? Well, Chara fell at the end of 201X, and golden flowers bloom in the spring. So that means this death must have happened AFTER 201X was already over. This is why the Royal Memorial fountain couldn't have been made for Chara or Asriel-This was BEFORE their death!

This is also why the fountain could not have been of Gaster-He wouldn't have any DT to extract, because Chara was the first fallen human!

Asgore declared war on humanity for this-With enough SOULs, he'd break the barrier. Toriel, however, was disgusted with this. This was enough to make her leave. When she noticed Chara was given an improper burial, she decided to do it herself-Burying Chara in golden flowers all the way back in the Ruins...

And that's the end of the second part!