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I've also been, well.. discussing with Ferret about the theory.

But I did add one part to my Mother "Interlude" so far... within an entire thread's worth of time.

Yeah, I've been pretty slow. Hopefully I'll make more than just one part this thread. (Who here thinks I'll end up making exactly two? I wouldn't be surprised.)

Oh, that's right-You guys might be new here, so I suppose I'll start from the beginning. You see, I've been developing a counter to Ferret's theory. I've started with the introduction to his theory, which I have called "Chapter 0", and made it all the way to the end of Chapter 9. The "Mother Interlude" is there to set up Chapter 10, where Ferret talks about the Halloween Hack. Though considering that it'll probably be longer than any of the actual chapters I'm responsing to, I'm not sure whether or not to actually call it an interlude. Interludes are supposed to be short, not longer than the main thing! Does anyone have a better name?

After I finish Chapter 11, me and Ferret will probably discuss what exactly he thinks happened. ...I've already done some things, but here, I'll ask more on what he actually believes happened. By attempting to gather an accurate timeline to his theory.. Similarly, I might go back and revise my counters, to account for Draft 5, and to add in what I learned from his responses to my counters. (His responses start on the Round 4 thread, so I'll start there.)

Yes, there is a Draft 5. Go back to the Round 4 thread, and click on what he said was the second draft (At the time, it actually was the second draft). It's now been updated for Draft Five. It should be a little better than the Draft Four that he's presented us here. And that's what I'll be responding to for Chapter 10 and 11... And then, of course, I'll try to retcon my responses to fit what Draft 5 says. I've looked at some of it, and Chapter 0 seems to be about the same.. But expect to find a few differences in later chapters.. That is, if Ferret actually brings up any new points in Draft 5.

I may or may not make my own thread titled "Asriel has no SOULs, Gaster has none", where I go over the points I made in my counters, but in a different format (I just discuss what Ferret said, and counter it, rather than directly quoting it.) Still haven't decided on that one. (If I do, then it'll probably be home to the current discussion between Ferret and I on this particular project. I might have other rebuttals that I still point out here, but the particular rebuttal project would solely be discussed on that thread, and only linked here.. And that link would only show up in this introductory post.. Which should start happening less often when discussion of my rebuttal is moved to a new thread.)

But what I have decided is that I'll finish off with a bang, where I simulate Ferret's timeline, and watch it break down when I apply reality to it. Hint:The simulation is going to crash with Alpha Frisk. (Yes, I still plan on doing the simulation. ...If I ever get past the Mother Interlude, that is.)

Speaking of that... The Earthbound Halloween Hack itself will be quite challenging, since I intend on directly researching the things Ferret inquires about in Chapter 10:Like whether or not there's a secret path in the Northwest. If I can legally get my hands on the Earthbound Halloween Hack ROM, I'll use an emulator to play it myself.. I'll start by exhausting the Let's Plays of it, though. If I succeed in getting the ROM (legally, so that means without piracy)... I'll start by trying to find actual ways to go back to Twoson with the portal, by testing out some of Ferret's possible methods.

If they all fail, I'll try and see if I can use a Game Genie to just warp there.

If that fails, or the enemies are still Super Hard.. I'll try using more codes to make Varik strong enough to just go through the area.. Then I'll definitely know what's out there.

If it's nothing, I'll rule that the Good Ending does not exist. Otherwise, I'll press on, and try to gather as much data on this secret path as I can. If it contains direct references to Undertale's story, it'll be great evidence supporting your theory.

...But I don't have a camcorder. Though maybe the Game Genie Codes I give you can help you out. If I ever get the game.

Anyways, here's the current contents of my rebuttal project.

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 * Chapter 0:https://undertale.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:157112#131
 * Chapter 1:https://undertale.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:157112#133
 * Chapter 2:https://undertale.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:157112#135
 * Chapter 3:https://undertale.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:157112#144
 * Chapter 4:https://undertale.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:162205#21
 * Chapter 5:https://undertale.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:162205#111
 * Chapter 6:https://undertale.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:162205#127
 * Chapter 7:https://undertale.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:162205#222
 * Chapter 8:https://undertale.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:164189#69
 * Chapter 9:https://undertale.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:164189#98

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The Mother Interlude

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 * Part 1:https://pastebin.com/Rva65s9C
 * Part 2:https://pastebin.com/nfE1kt53
 * Part 3:https://pastebin.com/bhGUYp3d
 * Part 4:https://pastebin.com/xCXjm5w7