Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-30088034-20170108152544/@comment-27701762-20170116221037

Yes I&#039;m single wrote: '''so you think frisk himself, and not chara controlling frisk, goes behind the lamp? but then why does chara have enough power to kill flowey and asgore?''' That's what I would say. The two points don't really relate to one another: Frisk goes behind the lamp during a Neutral run, when Chara has little to no control; Frisk kills Sans, Flowey, and Asgore without player input at the end of the Genocide route, when (by my explanation) control would have been almost entirely ceded to Chara.

'''so on genocide, chara becomes stronger because frisk gives in to chara's influence? and chara becomes so much more powerful that she turns from a spirit from an actual person? if so, that answers all my questions.''' I wouldn't say that Chara goes from spirit to human per se. Rather, they are a spirit the whole time that has varying amounts of control over Frisk depending on how much control is given away. Chara only "becomes human" when they are given complete control over Frisk's soul and are able to take over Frisk's body completely once a Soulless Pacifist run (i.e. a True Pacifist run after a Genocide run has been completed) has been completed.

'''so why do you think chara's not the narrator? i am kind of neutral...''' I'll post a link to another thread where the question is discussed. It doesn't contain all of my thoughts on the subject, but it should suffice.

'''so if you true reset in pacifist, chara has your soul the whole time? which is how they take over their body?''' Right. Presumably there is something more to it, since Chara wants Frisk to complete a True Pacifist run, but can't simply force Frisk to do so.

'''does chara still want to kill everything right when frisk falls? what about at the end of pacifist or neutral? or just geno''' That's up for debate. The thread I linked to above has some of my thoughts on the subject.