Talk:Eight Humans/@comment-27170700-20151207092555/@comment-27008606-20151208142904

Perseverance in this game. Would be an amalgamation of Determination and Patience.

If you note. Perseverance is "even when you felt trapped, you took notes, and reached the end of "ball" "

You were determined to see to the victory of the challenge.

but you were also forced to be patient, and examine what was going to actually free you from the challenge, as well as reach the end of it.

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Likewise.

In Muffet's battle. You must stay determined, but also, patient, and wait for your chance to end the fight, if you wish to end it peacefully.

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To some small extent. Perseverance in this game, Would also have Integrity mixed in

Because otherwise. You'd find them taking the easy way out

Killing.

Robbing.

etc.

All the morally wrong things to do.

Having integrity = good. You do the right things.

Lacking integrity = "bad integrity (doesn't exist)", or simply put. Bad.

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Determination. Is the Main aspect for "Determination"

It is through the sheer volume and strength of this main aspect.

that your soul refuses to give up (perservering) in Asriel's fight

That your ability to save and reload, even exists.

It is what allowed for the other 6 fallen humans to actually perish, as they simply lacked the sheer ... "quantity" of determination. All the Humans have some level of determination, it is, after all what allows their soul to persist after death. But it is the soul who is /all about that bas... determination/ that truly masters what the power has to offer.

Though.

Perseverance may very well be a close second, in one that controls a healthy portion of "power" of determination.. But simply being the difference is enough to not be able to reload, or even reset, from a place in the timeline....

And. This is shown sort of canonically through Flowey and their interactions.

That Flowey was injected with enough determination... as a physical matter driven plant with the soulless mind/memories of Asriel (and possibly fragments of Chara's soul)

and that this, Lack of all other aspects, and with "pure concentrations" of determination, granted him too, the power to save, reload, and reset the world, time and time again... until Frisk fell in and woke up, being a fully loaded human soul, filled to the brimming with spiders, I mean determination.