Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34798955-20180310144518/@comment-35757757-20180607010224

Nobody in Undertale is truly evil (minus Jerry, but that’s what Toby Fox said), and players who do genocide for fun (those evil souls). Which gets to a point I want to make: CHARA DOESN’T MAKE FRISK DO GENOCIDE! Frisk is in control of the players playing Undertale! Frisk is a blank slate for players to project on, not a harmless cinnamon bun incapable of any wrong doing! I found a comic that truly shows this... unfortunately I don’t know hoe to put pictures on these comment things so if anyone can tell me how to I’d be really thankful. Anyways, WHO pressed FIGHT? WHO killed innocent monsters? WHO kept on killing even when they KNEW it was wrong? THE PLAYER! If the player commands it, Frisk does it! Because that’s how games work! Frisk isn’t controlled by Chara, they’re controlled by players! This is a game, not UNDERTALE THE MOVIE: GENOCIDE ADDITION! If Chara was controlling Frisk to do genocide, then what is the player for?!?! Honestly, I think people just don’t want to feel guilty for doing genocide so they say Chara did it just to feel better about themselves! Chara having the real knife for their item? It’s actually called the “worn dagger”, real knife is the genocide name. I, like others, believe Chara narrates the game because of certain bits of evidence. And when they said that they worn dagger is perfect for cutting plants and vines, that could imply that Chara used it for gardening when they were still alive. Chara wanting to kill 6 humans? So did Asgore! And is Asgore excused for killing? Apparently so! So why not Chara? Actually, Asgore wanted to kill 7! Chara KILLED THEMSELF from buttercup poioning so Asriel could take their soul, cross the barrier, and kill 6 humans. With those 6 souls, the barrier would be broken and all monsters would be freed from their underground prison. So all they wanted to do is free everyone. But because Asriel just couldn’t find it within himself to kill anyone, he was attacked by humans who thought he killed Chara (since he was carrying Chara’s body in his hands). He escaped to the underground but died there. I think that when Asriel died both his and Chara’s soul were destroyed, leaving both soulless. When Frisk fell underground, Chara was awakened (they said that at the end of genocide where they get brought back to life). I think Chara started following Frisk around in hopes of learning why they were awakened. At the end of genocide, they learn that reason was power. They seem to have become the projection of the player at that point. The player’s evil, the player’s stats, the player’s EXP and LOVE, the player’s malicious intent to kill. At the end of genocide, Chara appears to address the player directly, saying that they were awakened from death for power and says that there is nothing left so they should just destroy the world. If you agree, they call you a Great partner. If you refuse, they say: “you must have misunderstood. Since when were you the one in control?” And does it anyways. Why? I think I have an answer. Chara might be saying “since when was this person who didn’t want to destroy the world the one in control?”. They even say that, if you get back on the game and wait long enough, They say “Interesting. You want to go back. You want to go back to the world you destroyed. It was you who pushed everything to it’s edge. It was you who led this world to it’s destruction. But you cannot except it. You think you are above consequences.”, very clearly stating that it was YOU who led the world to its end. YOU, by doing genocide have caused this. And why did you do do it? Well, I believe Sans has said it better then I could: “i know your type. you’re, uh, very determined, aren’t you? you’ll never give up, even if there’s, uh... absolutely NO benefit to persevering whatsoever. if i can make that clear. no matter what, you’ll just keep going. not out of any desire for good or evil... but just because you think you can. and because you “can”... ... you “have to”.”. See? YOU (as in the player) do genocide out of sheer curiosity. Not Chara, but YOU! YOU keep going on because of determination! You kill everyone even when there’s no benefits to it! All because you can! ”You and I are not the same, are we? This SOUL resonates with a strange feeling. There is a reason you continue to recreate this world. There is a reason you continue to destroy it. You. You are wracked with a perverted sentimentality. Hmm. I cannot understand these feelings anymore. Despite this, I feel obligated to suggest, should you chose to recreate this world once more, another path would be better suited.” Yup. You heard that right. ANOTHER path. You know... LIKE TRUE PACIFIST!?! Chara, and by extension the person who made Chara’s dialogue, is suggesting you should chose another path if you recreate the world again!

So what can we learn from this? That Chara is not evil! Nobody in Undertale truly is!.............except for Jerry but who cares about that UFO That Guy fusion.... and the player, by extension Frisk, in genocide. If this somehow offend you in any way I am sorry in advance. I don’t want to be rude, I’m just making a point.