Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26006155-20181123023529/@comment-32182236-20181228131521

Ferret, you need to stop assuming monsters can't express darkness. The original absorption of a human SOUL couldn't have been anything but dark. Monsters aren't as flawless as they want to believe they are. Sure, peole SAY monsters are made of love, hope, and conpassion, but there wasn't really any hope after Chasriel died, and the monsters didn't just suddenly vanish.

Susie expressing darkness? Deltarune isn't canon, but if we want to say the rule is the same, then Susie is evidence that monsters CAN express darkness.

Monsters aren't necessarilly innocent. Most of them are, but that doesn't mean a few can't not be..

I'm not asking how Frisk ended up back in the Ruins. I'm asking what happened after the Alpha Neutral Ending. What broughy Frisk to Gaster, and why would he pretend to be a monster if they got the Family Ending, and why aren't they ALREADY "impure" even BEFORE the fall if they got the Exiled Queen Ending? One of these needs answered.

My question regarding the start of the ruins was why Andonuts and Ness ended up at different times using the same broken machine. If it broke after one of them used it, the other couldn't have used it. Yet, if it didn't break until both used it, well, the one who used it first must have geen able to go back, and in fact, HAD to go back so the second one could have used the machine! And if it broke while both were using it at the same time, why weren't they both shattered across time and space like Gaster is now? So absolutely nothing to do with just Frisk ending up in the Ruins. It's Frisk and Gaster ending up in different times when they first entered the world.