Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-27136653-20170804014928

How is, for example, a manly bandana helpful? It isn't. The stats are dependant on something else. Maybe on a psychological attachment to those items. OR on their age. Besides, none of those items really shield the soul, so they must have some effect that transfers into the soul.

Now the comic strips. Maybe in the first one the human could have reloaded, but that doesn't fucking nullify the other two. In the second one, the human clearly gave those items away, and so did the human in the 3rd one. Gerson sells those items why? Well, because the human gave them to him!

And the city couldn't have been abandoned for as long as you say. Do you know how abandoned cities look like? https://www.google.cz/search?q=pripyat&tbm=isch&ved=0ahUKEwjs2YLVobzVAhUFaFAKHdzfCrgQ_AUICigB

That's Pripyat. Just 31 years since being depopulated. Pretty wild stuff. That's not how the city in Undertale looks like. I think the simpler explanation is that the humans are there, but Toby didn't bother to add them. As I said, he probably didn't want to focus on them too much.

Next, what do you mean when you talk about trust? Frisk can't backstab Chara. Quite the opposite actually. So idk why are you talking about trust from Chara's side.

"Chara assumed you said something different from what you actually said." -  Exactly. Chara thought that Frisk said something horrible. But then realized they didn't. And the definition of heckle is to harass USING questions. "Why are you even alive?" is a pretty harsh question in my opinion.

And when we tried to laugh? Maybe Chara confused Frisk laughing with them crying. Still, I wonder where did they get the idea that Frisk wasn't crying from. To me, it seemed like an answer to some statement: "What, you didn't do that?" My guess is that Frisk informed them. Something we didn't order Frisk to do. But then that wouldn't fit with the next sentence: "But it's not funny." I already explained that it seems like a response to a failed attempt at laughing, rather than scolding for a successful one. So the only other remaining option is that Frisk didn't cry, but they didn't laugh either. They were silent. Chara thought they laughed (but first mistook it for crying), since we ordered it, but Frisk didn't do anything.

If you question the validity of Chara's statements, then surprise surprise, Chara's interactions with the player don't really make sense. It seems like Chara can hear us and thinks that that's what Frisk does, but can't really see what they do, until they tell Chara.

4) What about those times when Sans isn't in the station? Why would he move it then? And how does the illegal station in Hotland fit into this? (remember, he's got two of them in Hotland, one apparently being a secret or something... and he sells hotdogs in it).

Now, about the HUD, I can again say that whatever happens in the overworld gets represented by the battle box. It's a harsh simplification. So either the HUD is meant to be for our eyes only, or  the overworld itself transforms into the HUD somehow. Doesn't the latter sound rather far-fetched? Remember, we aren't Frisk. Frisk is there. In the game. We can't be Frisk. Stop saying we are Frisk. We are either manipulating them, or we are carrying out Frisk's actions. I already explained how Frisk acts without us, so we aren't in a full control. And sometimes, Frisk straight up disobeys our command. So then, what if we're just carrying out Frisk's actions? I mean, someone has to play the game, just like someone has to read a book to make the written story "happen", if you get what I mean ;)

It's sad to think that Frisk is a mindless zombie. That's why I prefer the other explanation.

Now, what convinced Frisk that they can't spare? Maybe the fact that if they spare, they WILL get killed and put into a jar? Or maybe Asgore refused their mercy. Somehow. I still believe he didn't literally smash that button. If he did, then he could have just aimed for the fight button as you said and made the job much easier.

About Sans. Sans's fight is strange. It somehow proves that the heart icon that appears over the buttons is actually Frisk's soul, meaning Frisk chooses options with their chest. Or, maybe Toby just wanted to make the fight more interesting. The annoying dog also didn't create itself and the world around it through barking at a computer screen (since it would be a paradox). Don't believe everything that's in the game. Similarly, don't exclude anything that's not in the game.

"having a shield is just a part of having a green SOUL mode"

<p style="font-weight:normal;">Nope. That spear (apparently it was a spear) was literally given to you by Undyne: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6gS2LPXdIc5bUtOTUs3ckZxems

<p style="font-weight:normal;">"<span style="font-weight:normal;font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,HiraKakuPro-W3,"HiraginoKakuGothicProW3","HiraginoKakuGothicPro","ヒラギノ角ゴProW3",メイリオ,Meiryo,游ゴシック,YuGothic,"ＭＳＰゴシック","MSPGothic","ＭＳゴシック","MSGothic",sans,sans-serif;font-size:16px;">If Frisk took out a weapon and attacked, the monster could obviously dodge."

<p style="font-weight:normal;">I don't see what's so obvious about that, but yeah sure, whatever you say.

<p style="font-weight:normal;"> Anyways, how does Frisk attack then? By staring? Frisk ain't got no magic, so the only other option is a physical attack. The HUD is just a representation of such action.

<p style="font-weight:normal;"> " <span style="font-weight:normal;font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,HiraKakuPro-W3,"HiraginoKakuGothicProW3","HiraginoKakuGothicPro","ヒラギノ角ゴProW3",メイリオ,Meiryo,游ゴシック,YuGothic,"ＭＳＰゴシック","MSPGothic","ＭＳゴシック","MSGothic",sans,sans-serif;font-size:16px;">you can't exactly do that when all you can move is your SOUL"

<p style="font-weight:normal;"><span style="font-weight:normal;font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,HiraKakuPro-W3,"HiraginoKakuGothicProW3","HiraginoKakuGothicPro","ヒラギノ角ゴProW3",メイリオ,Meiryo,游ゴシック,YuGothic,"ＭＳＰゴシック","MSPGothic","ＭＳゴシック","MSGothic",sans,sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Are you saying that Frisk turns into a heart shape while the HUD is active? You serious?

<p style="font-weight:normal;">5) Works for me. If the HUD is meant for us, then he activated it for us so that we wouldn't see him fleeing. But he definitely didn't do it by hitting Frisk into the optic nerve. Also, explain to me how are you supposed to see yourself in a pitch-black room?

<p style="font-weight:normal;">"<span style="font-weight:normal;font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,HiraKakuPro-W3,"HiraginoKakuGothicProW3","HiraginoKakuGothicPro","ヒラギノ角ゴProW3",メイリオ,Meiryo,游ゴシック,YuGothic,"ＭＳＰゴシック","MSPGothic","ＭＳゴシック","MSGothic",sans,sans-serif;font-size:16px;">if he could alter the code, he could set our HP to 0"

<p style="font-weight:normal;">Did I say anything about code?

<p style="font-weight:normal;">Finally. Asriel thought that Frisk will leave through the barrier, leaving him behind. The idea to actually break the barrier with what they had so far formed only at the very end.