Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31536324-20190117214835/@comment-32182236-20190129232542

"BECAUSE DT WAS NOT THEIR TRAIT! THEY WERE THE MOST DETERMINED BEINGS IN THE UNDERGROUND BECAUSE THEY HAD MORE DT THAN EVERYONE ELSE, EVEN IF THEIR TRAIT ISN'T RED! THAT'S IT!"

Exactly.

Here, let me make it more obvious.

Monsters can't hold the same determination levels of a human, because they lack the physical matter. That's why they turned into the Amalgamtes.

Seeing as the SAVE power is restricted to the Underground (Why else would Frisk first gain the ability the moment they reached the Underground, and not be able to continue past the Surface, being forced to go back Underground with Flowey if they want to reset?), that means ANY human would beat out ALL the monsters! DT trait or not!

"The game even says that making the monsters not want to kill you is how you spare them, they literally say that lowering their FIRMNESS OF PURPOSE is how you SPARE them!"

This actually leads to a hypothesis of mine:I'm practically certain it's true.

The reason why it's SO easy to spare monsters that clearly want to kill you is because they lack DT compared to humans. Thus, they lack firmness of purpose, which is why it can get changed so easily by a human like Frisk. That's why just one little game with the dogs, one compliment to a hostile Froggit, and just petting Doggo is enough to get him to completely stop attacking you and become friends.

So the monsters being unrealistically spareable is not just a game mechanic to make things easier, or a plot hole-It's a result of monsters having FAR less DT than a human would.