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Rafip wrote:

@ Cookie-Owl ''Not really sure what you mean by how that works? People in real life can identify as nonbinary and prefer "they" pronouns, but still they are biologically either a boy or girl.'' Since sex term categorises people for males and females by their physical differences, which are given, the gender term describes someones personal choice how they want to be identified. However, the Undertale tells us nothing about Frisk's/Chara's physicality or their preferences/tastes/choices, so it was your choice based on your experiences to not only decide to make both of them girls, but also to assign gender role to them - nonbinary, which is someone who experiences their gender as both male and female, or experiences their gender as neither male nor female. Now, the question is, what made you to define them like that, what is the idea behind your thinking they are nonbinary girls?

EDIT: Also, Frisk wears both blue, a color used for boys, and pink, color used for girls! Wearing clothes with certain colors doesn't make someone a male/female. Also, some colors used for Frisk sprite are actually opposite versions of those used for Chara. Well, there is no evidence for either of them being either gender. They're both children, I'm guessing pretty young and have not gone through puberty, so no features visible in their sprites are seen. I see them as nonbinary, as in the one identifying as no gender, since the pronouns NPCs used for them is "they". It's entirely possible the monsters didn't know Frisk's gender, but I feel like Chara would've told the Dreemurrs their gender that they identify as (though I do believe Chara wasn't evil and loved the Dreemurrs, so that is why I think so). Since Frisk and Chara are supposed to be equal to some degree, I feel they would identify as the same gender.

As for the color thing, I am aware that colors don't determine what your gender is. Considering that Frisk is most likely a young child, I think many kids around their age go with the stereotype that pink is for girls and blue is for boys. So for me, this represents that they don't care  about what people think about gender and don't even care about gender, since they don't have one, which is what I believe. Chara's color on their clothes are colors not associated with gender, so they don't really care about gender either is what I believe.