Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-27327020-20160404174206/@comment-13682699-20170604194538

CreepyFreddy wrote: Fastrthnwind wrote:

CreepyFreddy wrote: Meh, I just got a top 5. (From strongest to weakest, it's gonna be weird)

1. Omega Flowey, lets face it. He breaks the bullet board, made his own world, can save over your own death, and uses the power of SOULS, fortunately, it's his downfall.

2. Asriel Dreemurr, Weird how when Flowey becomes god, he doesn't use his Omega Flowey tactics. Even his real power can't do the same thing. But he's still strong, his downfall is his feelings.

3. Sans, Dodges your attacks, manipulates gravity, bones and Gasterblasters, he can damage you even when outside of battle, AND HE CAN INFINITELY HAVE HIS TURN. His downfall is...uh...sleeping.

4. Undyne, through the power of determination, she can withstand a lot of attacks. She transforms into her Undying mode as well, her downfall is kinda the same thing, fighting.

5. Napstablook, he's a ghost, he cant die, his downfall...uuuhhhhhhhhh, I dunno. From an objective view of actual statistics and full capability this list very out of order. The only exception to this is the first two.

Omega Flowey/God of Hyperdeath switch is totally acceptable when taking into consideration their mindsets: One has no SOUL and is just trying to have fun with all the power they accumulated vs a being who recently regained feelings after so long and doesn't want to be so lonely anymore. Canonically speaking, Sans should be at the bottom even below Napstablook, with Undyne the Undying taking third place as the strongest monster who ever lived without the use of a human SOUL.

From a subjective view of difficulty in beating bosses, this still seems a bit off as "most" people would have Sans at the top followed by Undyne or Omega Flowey. Well, I guess your right about that. And this isnt from difficulty of beating bosses, it's more of actual canon power(Because it does't take a genius to know that if it was, Sans would be at the top.)

Riiingo wrote: Fastrthnwind wrote: As the supposed previous Royal Scientist who had built the CORE, he likely had to have very fine control over his magic to use in his research practices as well as a vast knowledge of other magic and how they interacted within their universe.

As far a strength and battle prowess goes though, he probably didn't have any formal training outside of possibly watching other royal guardsmen. This might be different if you believe that he lived through the Monster/Human war centuries ago. Stats are 666k, bigger than flowey. If we went as far to say it's stronger than Asriel's as Asriel technically has 9999

I feel like if people were to read my earlier posts, they would understand such reasonings behind why I say them