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Glittergemy wrote: about* old tutu  manlybandana cowboy hat and jun frisk is a girl just for the fact boys dont really flirt and its ok if you think frisk is a boy i kinda see your point but the other day a boy said:Are you sure hes not a girl with the long hair cause boys r posed to have shhrot and girl long

if someone has short their a boy if long girl

Me:IM A GIRL AND I HAVE SHORT HAIR

IM NOT A F*CKING BOY AM I (sorry but i atchually swore) As I said earlier in this thread, "For Chara and Frisk, unless a character in game states they are male or female, definitively, they aren't one or the other. (They aren't even nonbinary if it's not stated) and it's up to personal interpretation. If you see Chara as a boy, you're valid. If you see Frisk as a boy, you're valid. If you see either of them as girls, you're valid. If you see either of them as nonbinary, you're valid. There is no right answer unless it is stated in game or by Toby Fox."

I'd have to look more into it, but if I remember correctly, Toby made Frisk and Chara look rather adrogynous so that way people can see them as whatever gender they like. Also, as you're pointing out with your hair being short and you identifying as female, people can't rely on appearance for gender. As I've said also said, I can look either masculine or feminine depending on the day, but that doesn't make me not agender. Personally, I haven't looked into the other souls so I'm not biased towards seeing them as male, female, or nonbinary, but if someone disagrees, that's okay, it's their interpretation. If someone wants to call Chara or Frisk a boy, that's fine, you can keep calling them a girl, just don't make that person call them a girl too. I see Chara and Frisk as nonbinary because I'd like that non-binary rep, but I don't get upset over other people seeing them as male or female because it's up to interpretation.

Also with your comment about their love interest being a cigar. I haven't seen that in game, I'd have to research it, that might be someone playing around on the wiki. And anyways, just because they like a female based thing, it doesn't make them a boy, that's heteronormative, and it doesn't make them a lesbian, they could be bi or pan, assuming that just because they might be the same gender as someone they love they must be lesbian/gay is erasing all other sexual orientations like bisexual and pansexual. (Though it is valid for people to headcanon them as lesbian, as I said, it's up to interpretation. And that's the nice thing about this game being so ambiguous.)