Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28885320-20160711182624/@comment-26887879-20160718201632

Well, we don't know how exactly did humans die to begin with. Toby said none of them made it past Asgore, not to Asgore, but that might mean that some of them died before making it to him and were brought to him dead.

We know that Chara died by poisoning themselves thus making their soul available for Asriel to absorb.... Tbh, I never really understood why Monsters "kill" us by breaking our soul if they need it to be free. It makes me think that humans didn't die by Monster's attack. Also, maybe some children had SLR ability, but when they went to Asgore, he was too strong for them and they simply gave up...

When we meet Asgore, he seems to be in despair, we never actually see his full strenght. Maybe at the time of previous children, he was more furious and gave them a Sans like battle... even if they were innocent. Also after all, what if Chara has to do something with Frisk's determination, maybe not by giving them more than they already have, but rather "encouragement" some sort of to unleash it's max potential. They obviously do it in genocide (only to trick us), but in true pacifist Asgore sees a bit of Chara in Frisk when he's sparing you and Asriel accepts that Frisk is different from Chara near the end of his fight.

I don't know... but the fact Frisk is a seventh and last child does play important role, I think. With or without Chara. If they fell down as second soul required and Flowey was there at that time, Flowey/Asriel still wouldn't have enough souls to become Omega Flowey and God of Hyperdeath and break the barrier eventually...