Talk:Chara/@comment-35030974-20191227014300/@comment-32182236-20191227175805

"We know damn well that Chara didn't do anything on the Genocide route. From Toriel to Flowey, nobody is responsible but you."

Actually, it's Toriel to Mettaton NEO. Or Toriel to Sans, depending on whether or not you consider the team effort as your fault for starting it, or Chara's for finishing it. After that, it's Chara all the way. (Sans doesn't increase the kill count, and you don't gain EXP from Asgore or Flowey)

"Does anyone have a reason to say Chara is evil that isn't the Genocide route? Anyone at all?"

Does Soulless Pacifist count?

What about "Froggit attacked", when Froggit didn't even attack yet, and wouldn't attack until the next turn?

What about the fact that Chara is literally less useful than a FROGGIT? (A Froggit reveals the answer on how to spare Toriel. All Chara does is ask if you can get through without fighting or running away, and that's AFTER you reloaded after killing her)

And what about this line from the second Genocide Ending?

"You are filled with a perverted sentimentality."

No, this is not in reference to destroying the world. Say no to destroying the world, and..

"No? This is the feeling that I spoke of. Unfortunately, regarding this... YOU MADE YOUR CHOICE LONG AGO."

The evil Chara hypothesis isn't as silly as it sounds. Unfortunately, a vocal minority (or possibly the majority, I hope not) say that Chara made Frisk do the Genocide Route in the first place, though some kind of coercion or possession. That idea is indeed ridiculous (they can only do that after taking your SOUL), and is rightfully criticized. Though I would consider that hypothesis as a strawman (which people ironically hold as an actual position).

Though, I myself have a more... complex take on Chara. That they, just like, say, Flowey and Asgore, are a character with a major flaw. In Flowey's case, it's boredom and curiosity. In Chara's case... It's hatred.