Talk:Frisk/@comment-24580010-20161125213644/@comment-30685450-20161205190522

As a trans person, I actually agree it should be up to the player and there's nothing wrong with viewing Chara and Frisk as boys or girls, and it'd only be transphobic if someone refused to respect someone else's non-binary headcanon for Frisk and Chara just because it's a nb headcanon. I honestly prefer having it up to interpretation like that over creating nb headcanons for characters who clearly use she/her or he/him pronouns and don't have any proof that they might be nb, though I do think it'd be pretty nice if Chara and/or Frisk were confirmed as non-binary -- Undertale already has quite a lot of LGBT+ representation, yes, but it's mostly gay/lesbian/bi/pan representation   which is the most common in media, while nb representation is usually very rare (there's Mettaton for trans representation, but while I think all nb people are trans, it's still not the same thing).

I personally see Frisk as non-binary because there's actually some proof in the game that they might be nb besides the fact all the characters call Frisk "they/them", such as the fact Papyrus' room has a sign that says "no boys allowed" and "no girls allowed", and yet they're still allowed to enter, which could imply they're neither. It could be because Papyrus doesn't know humans have binary genders like most monsters ("most monsters" because, considering the fact MK, Napstablook, and Napstablook's cousin use they/them pronouns, I guess not all monsters have binary genders and these three (and possibly others) are actually non-binary) and just assumed they're genderless or something similar. Still, the fact he doesn't say they shouldn't enter because they're a boy or a girl is still a pretty big thing to me (yes, they're in the middle of a date and that would be a kinda rude thing to do, but I still think that, if boys/girls aren't allowed and Frisk were to be one, Papyrus could've at least said something like "boys/girls aren't allowed in my bedroom, but I suppose I could make an exception for you" before starting the date). It's not much, sure, but there isn't much proof that Frisk or Chara are confirmed as boys or girls either, so the vibe I get from that is that it's really up to interpretation.

Either way, having it be up to interprertation is honestly very nice (as long as people fully understand that and don't shove their headcanons down other people's throats) and I'm grateful for it, so I don't mind it staying as that, especially when so many people already view them as non-binary anyway.