Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31981697-20170722123329/@comment-27136653-20170830154141

1) The souls had a lasting effect. They preserved his form, but since he gave those souls away, he couldn't transform back into his "god of hyperdeath" form. That's possible only if he has all of them, which he does not.

2) Since everything is pointing to the fact that the annoying dog in the game is supposed to represent Toby, I'd say the comments were on Undernet, not in real life. Or it could be a reference to Toby's Twitter, so it shouldn't be taken literally.

3) I don't see it. And they're using DJ discs, because, well, they're using them. They're not outdated now, since they have a different purpose, meaning they probably won't be outdated in a hundred years too. And besides, we can always say it's Napstablook's own machine, that he had back in the underground (we just couldn't see it - maybe it was upstairs in his house).

4) So you're saying Frisk is some higher being that can transcend game menus? Isn't it simpler to say that Frisk is just a human, that has nothing to do with us, and cannot see the menu? Maybe they can see the battle interface, and they definitely can see the save files, but again, no proof they see the menu and the credits too.

5) The monsters shamed themselves, so they must be telling the truth. So the intro exaggerated it. It also exaggerated the size of the boss monster portrayed (probably). In all honesty, the intro seems like the less credible source, since it's portrayed in such an artistic way. The ancient inscriptions are more straightforward, as Toby wouldn't put them there for us to question them.

6) Or the monsters aren't aware that someone is checking their stats in the first place. Some may know that it can happen, and so they hide them.

7) It's called a wave function collapse. A particle is a probability wave, and it behaves like one until we observe it. Since the particle has to strike the detector somewhere, that's where it will appear. Not as a wave, but as a particle. And enough of this already.

8) But you don't believe those are their ACTUAL names, just the HUD restricting your options, rite?

9) Maybe the monster knows the snow won't melt away for whatever reason. Or they were just simple minded, like most of the monsters that we meet. And no, the universe doesn't have to be made out of code for glitches to occur. We could say it's a magic problem. After all, magic does defy all intuition, that's why it doesn't exist in real life. So why can't this glitch just be a part of it?

10) Yes. It really seems like Frisk can reset, but not when his other abilities get compromised. For a full transfer of power, the original "master" of resets must be killed. But I still wonder, if Frisk's soul can do that, then why didn't it do so earlier? To streamline through difficult fights for example.

11) I call them wizards. And Alphys wanted to use the souls of monsters, since that counts as soul power. She knew that. But she never really drew the connection that soul power is proportional to determination. That's probably why she even started the experiment in the first place, hoping to achieve the goal using only a few monster souls, which is, frankly, impossible.

12) He said that all humans that fall down must die. That was his order. That's why Toriel left. To protect them.

13) But Chara did not imitate a cry. It could have been a sarcastic laugh as I said already. And I believe it was, because there wasn't an option to cry, so Frisk didn't cry, and Chara had no reason to cry. And so Frisk disagreed with laughing.

14) Flowey wasn't talking to Frisk, as he mentioned them in 3rd person. He wouldn't do that if Frisk was there. So either Chara somehow got separated from Frisk and Flowey somehow knew that they were there, or the black screen scenes are meant for our eyes only, which would make sense. It definitely makes more sense than the other option, since then we would have to assume that Chara got separated (or that Frisk went deaf), and that Flowey knows about them, which isn't the case either. Flowey does not know that a narrator is present. There is no pfroof for that. Only Napstablook and Tsunderplane reach to Chara's lines, but I wouldn't say that that would convince any outside observers that there's someone with Frisk. This is assuming that the narrator cannot be heard by others, except for Napstablook and Tsunderplane. Then there's also Glyde and Aaron, but those react to checks, so one might think that it was Frisk who did the checking. In short, there's not enough proof to support the theory that Flowey knows about the narrator. So he can't be speaking to Chara.

Next, no, Chara has no soul, so Frisk does not have the power of two souls. And if you say the world being a game isn't canon, then Frisk being able to access the game's menu and see the game's credits isn't canon either. Lastly, before, you were trying REAAAAAAAALLY hard to disprove that when Sans makes everything black, he did not activate the HUD. Even though you first came up with that idea. So when everything is black, and then suddenly Flowey pops out of the ground, then that isn't a work of HUD either. Since we don't see Frisk's soul. As I said, if Flowey is speaking to Chara, then he's speaking to Frisk too, but since he spoke of Frisk in 3rd person, he can't really be talking to Chara, unless Frisk is deaf... since I don't see how would Frisk NOT be able to hear their conversation. And there is no proof that either Chara or Flowey are able to make Frisk deaf. So the only other options is to say that Chara got separated, or that the scene wasn't canon, since Flowry spoke to the player directly. And since I already said that he doesn't know about the narrator, then the first option can't be right. Unless Frisk told Flowey that Chara is there. But then again, explain how did they get separated so that Flowey would be comfortable with talking about Frisk in 3rd person.