Mettaton's normal form or Mettaton EX? Post your answer in the comments down below!
What's on your mind?
But what are the "alphyine (it's just an example, I know there are others) week"? I understand that these are weeks dedicated to our favorite ships, but when do they happen? do you do? can I get an accurate list of Undertale's "ships weeks" and fandom and their dates?
There is a debate about if the dreemurs are goats or dragons. tell me what you think with proof.
IT DON'T MATTER IF IT'S A SECRET SONG HIDDEN IN THE FILES, JUST SAY UR FAV SONG FROM UNDERTALE! NO DELTARUNE!
Undertale is not that good of a game I'm going to stick with red ead redemption
"I remember the day after my son died. The entire underground was devoid of hope. The future had once again been taken from us by the humans. In a fit of anger, I declared war. I said that I would destroy any human that came here. I would use their souls to become godlike... ... and free us from this terrible prison. Then, I would destroy humanity... And let monsters rule the surface, in peace. Soon, the people's hopes returned." - Asgore's monologue upon his defeat
After the death of Asriel Dreemurr and the first human, King Asgore furiously declared war on the human race, declaring that every fallen human should die and their SOULS collected, planning on harvesting seven of them in order to destroy the barrier, then wipe out the human race from existence using the power from the previous seven SOULS, allowing monsters to rule the surface in peace, forever.
As we all know, this plan never actually comes to work at any outcome of Undertale. But what if it did? What would really happen?
Basics first. The eighth and last human to fall into the Underground is the protagonist, a human filled with DETERMINATION and the power to SAVE and LOAD. Of course, this is technically why the protagonist's SOUL cannot ever be collected, making the plan impossible.
But, let's say, what if the last human didn't have such power? What if they had only one chance? And, even if they had DETERMINATION, what if they ended up giving up at some point of the fight against Asgore, assuming they are not under the player's control (or even if they were)?
Well, let's just remember that there are a lot of monsters in the human's way before New Home. One of them is Undyne, the Head of the Royal Guard, a group of which has the function to look out for any fallen human, and capturing them. However, a few other monsters, such as Mad Dummy and Mettaton, intend on using the protagonist's SOUL for other purposes, instead of contributing to Asgore's future plan of war.
Either way, should the human have one single chance, or give up at some point of their journey, it's always important to note that there are a lot of monsters who fight them for different reasons, and a few others that don't even have reasons to fight. Others don't really want to stay in the fight, such as Whimsun, and others don't even know they're fighting, such as Greater Dog who thinks that fighting is just playing.
Well then, let's say that the human is killed by a monster who actually wants to contribute on the plan, such as Undyne, who can be considered a tough enemy. She'd definitely take the human SOUL and deliver it to the king.
"Seven. Seven human souls. With the power of seven human souls, our king... King ASGORE Dreemurr... ... will become a god. With that power, ASGORE can finally shatter the barrier. He will finally take the surface back from humanity... And give them back the suffering and pain that we have endured." - Undyne when besieging the protagonist in Waterfall
Otherwise, let's say that the human ends up engaging with the king in person. About that, there's another important thing to note. Asgore, despite having declared war like that, doesn't really want to wage war on humanity.
"Truthfully... I do not want power. I do not want to hurt anyone. I just wanted everyone to have hope..." - Asgore's monologue upon his defeat
Asgore, despite having promised such an extreme act to all monsters, and having many monsters praise him as a good king and as a savior, Asgore truly doesn't want it to happen. Not only that, he has to deal with the terrible fact that he was likely the one who murdered the six humans. Evidences to this include this point:
"You stare deep into the eyes of the Lost Soul. He remembers the gaze of humans past..." - Stare ACT for Asgore's Lost Soul during Asriel's battle
If Asgore remembers the gaze of past humans, that probably means those humans met with him and, therefore, had to engage him. Another evidence includes this point:
"No human has EVER made it past ASGORE!" - Undyne during her battle (Neutral/Pacifist)
This implies that the humans had to try to get past Asgore, but ultimately failed.
Whether or not this is actually true, Asgore still feels terrible about what he has done. He's reluctant to even fight the protagonist, and doesn't rush the fight.
"Are you ready? If you are not, I understand. I am not ready either." - Asgore before entering the barrier room
On the Neutral Route, in the Exiled Queen ending (if Undyne is alive), Sans mentions that Asgore was not as vehement about destroying humanity as Undyne is by then, and in the Undyne ending, Sans mentions that Undyne has adopted the same plan of breaking the barrier and waging war on humanity, but also says that Asgore was really bad at it. While in the latter seems to refer more to the fact that Asgore died, the former seems to actually describe how much Asgore really wanted to go on with that plan. And believe it or not, it wasn't extremely much.
Asgore does what he does for the hope of monsterkind, all in order to maintain his people safe and bright. This is heavily implied to be why he didn't even want to cross the barrier with a single human SOUL.
"If you really wanted to free our kind... You could have gone through the barrier after you got ONE SOUL... ... taken six SOULs from the humans, then come back and freed everyone peacefully. But instead, you made everyone live in despair... Because you would rather wait here, meekly hoping another human never comes." - Toriel to Asgore after interrupting his fight on the True Pacifist run
This was the same plan of Asriel and the first human: to cross the barrier with a human SOUL, venture on the surface to harvest more six, then destroy the barrier with the power. However, as we know, when it came down to it, Asriel ended up dying. Perhaps Asgore, already being aware of that, decided not to take such decision. The monsters even become heartbroken over the king in Neutral endings, as he dies at all of them. So what to say if he died on the surface, trying to take human SOULS to break the barrier? Again, the hope of monsters would be shattered, and things would surely go terribly wrong in the Underground.
Back to the point though, what if he adopted his own plan anyhow, even against his will?
Well, then him and the human would inevitably fight. Given the possibility, regarding the human, mentioned around the start of this post. then the last human would die by the king's hands, and their SOUL would be collected.
Now, King Asgore has seven human SOULS. And with this power, he can become a god. Not only him, but any monster, to be honest.
"If a monster defeats a human, they can take its SOUL. A monster with a human SOUL... A horrible beast with unfathomable power." - Glyphs in Waterfall
A power of which would be enough not only to break the barrier, but also to put an end to the humans.
"When a human dies, its soul remains stable outside the body. Meanwhile, a monster's soul disappears near-instantly upon death. This allows monsters to absorb the souls of humans... While it is extremely difficult for humans to absorb a monster's soul. This is why they feared us. Though monsters are weak, with enough human souls... They could easily destroy all of mankind." - Monster History Part 7
Monsters are by far weaker than humans. However, by having enough human SOULS, monsters can have a great advantage over humans. This is why humans feared monsters in the first place. This is why they declared war.
And thus, putting humanity's greatest fear towards monsters in war field would be unforgettable.
Given what monster SOULS are said to be made of, perhaps it is unlikely that this would have happened when monsters and humans ruled the Surface together.
"Love, hope, compassion... This is what people say monster SOULs are made of. But the absolute nature of "SOUL" is unknown. After all, humans have proven their SOULs don't need these things to exist." - Book in Snowdin Librarby
But could a monster victory in the future Second War of Humans and Monsters come to be? Nearly every monster SOUL equals the power of only one human SOUL, of course. With seven human SOULS, though, a monster has incredible power, given the already immense power of a human SOUL.
In the first war of humans and monsters, the humans were all united, making the monsters stand weak chances.
"In the end, it could hardly be called a war. United, the humans were too powerful, and us monsters, too weak. Not a single SOUL was taken, and countless monsters were turned to dust..." - Glyphs in Waterfall
The humans attacked suddenly, without MERCY, and no human SOUL was taken. As said before, it couldn't really be called a war.
There's more on my point regarding this, but it'll be best viewed if we move this forward.
So, King Asgore finally achieved the goal of seven human SOULS. It would be a fact to mark monster history forever, a fact that would change the Underground for good. As such, all monsters are informed of this. King Asgore, even if somewhat reluctant, absorbes the SOULS, and becomes an extremely powerful creature. He would be fueled by DETERMINATION and supposedly have the power to mess with time. Or maybe not. Either way, he uses the SOULS to shatter the barrier, setting all monsters free. Soon, he travels to the surface leading the monsters, and suddenly, without MERCY, begins to attack humanity, wiping one by one...
...or is it?
Well, do you remember Asriel Dreemurr in his battle? His reason to fight the protagonist was to keep the timeline in an endless loop, because he was aware of the protagonist's DETERMINATION. The battle would continue over and over. The true reason, however, was primarily because Asriel confused the protagonist with the first human, the latter being his friend from long ago. He didn't want to lose his friend once again. This ultimately turns out in Asriel losing the will to fight, and he later acknowledges that the protagonist isn't his old sibling, and that his old sibling is already gone for a long time.
Oh, where am I going with this? Well, Asgore, despite having absorbed the seven human SOULS, still has compassion on his heart. What would he really do if a second war came to be? And, let's say, if he actually wiped humanity out forever, would he be miserable because of what he's done? Would the human SOULS revolt against him, causing him to end up giving up? If humanity was actually wiped out, would Asgore still want to keep living with himself? We can even say that the human SOULS would just disappear right at the aftermath of the war. But what do you think that actually would happen with the king?
Well, while you think about it, I'm going to talk some more about how an aftermath of this ultimate war would be.
The Underground would be mostly, if not all, empty. Toriel would leave the RUINS, worried, thinking about how her child was doing, and willing to stop a sacrifice from happening, only to find out that... it already happened. The plan that Toriel tried so hard to prevent from happening, happened. What would happen to her, then? Needless to say she would be drown in sadness. The human child she protected, the human child that proved to her that they were strong enough to survive, is gone, as well as all of mankind.
Apart from that, since the door that separates the Ruins from Snowdin would be opened, the monsters inside the Ruins would now be able to explore the rest of the Underground, as well as the Surface too.
The Royal Guard may or may not be disbanded. But, as monsters won't have to fight humans ever again, it's most likely that it would.
Such as in the True Pacifist Route, many monsters would close their shops and establishments, as well as gathering their stuff in order to move on to the Surface.
Alphys, the Royal Scientist, who once attempted to find an alternative way to break the barrier and ultimately witnessed the failure of the Amalgamates, now would be able to move on and become a better person, and at some point, she would reveal the truth about the Amalgamates as well as sending them to their families.
Mettaton would not be able to perform to humans anymore, which was a great dream of his. I'm not sure if he would keep performing to the monsters or just retire, but this would have a considerable impact on him.
Papyrus and Sans would probably not change very much. Papyrus would be able to see the sun, maybe even acquire a cool red car, but if Asgore died, Papyrus would never be able to see a hedge on the shape of his smile trimmed by the king.
Additionally, Sans would likely be able to meet Toriel in person for the first time. I'm sure that Sans would want to serve as good company to her, given the chance.
Toriel would never forgive Asgore from solving all of this in a violent way. If she already saw Asgore as "terrible," now it would be even worse.
The CORE would not need to be cooled down anymore, and would become unused, as monsters can now find other sources of energy power on the surface.
And hey, since Asgore would end up dying, who would be the next ruler of monsterkind? Comment your guesses below!
Anyway, the hopes and dreams of many monsters would finally come to be. Burgerpants would have a better future as an actor, or just keep flipping burgers again. Muffet would have a spider success with a new bakery. Shyren would become a good singer. All of that.
However, not everything would be paradise, especially for Toriel and Asgore, both never wanting this war to happen. As mentioned above, they would surely be devastated.
Flowey would never be able to become Asriel again, as the protagonist died and the seven human SOULS were to be used in Asgore's plan.
But... one thing I didn't mention previously in the post is...
Once Asgore gathered the seven human SOULS back in the Underground, would Flowey intervene? And if so, what would happen instead? Would he absorb the SOULS? Would he make a nightmare out of the Underground?
Comment down what you think.
"So, what will it be? Will you prove yourself? Or will I get to watch you suffer...? Either way, I'm interested!!! Hee hee hee..." - Flowey
At the end of the true pacifist route, Goat Mom tells Asgore that he could've gone through the barrier with one soul and collect the others there. Yeah, he could've... only Asriel and Chara did that exact same thing and caused this whole mess. So if that's the only reason she left Asgore, then... yeah.
In your opinion, is Undyne or Alphys older? In my opinion it's Undyne, but only a few years old
Would i be aloud to put fan fic up (my own fan fic) on here ?
Isn't he a skeleton
Mine is the fact Napstablook closed his blinds and locked the door when Asriel did the soul taking thing.
If Flowey is Asriel, and Asriel is Asgore's son, why did Flowey destroy Asgore's soul in the neutral route?
I recently noticed that the Papyrus span class isn't appearing as the font. Every text that were once applied with the Papyrus span class now appear as the regular font. Even in the Papyrus page. Why?
Here are the rules:
Somebody starts the ban game with a random reason. Other people follow with more random reasons to ban people. This continues until we reach 100 comments-
Imagine Genocide Sans and Mettaton NEO were fighting-
WHO WOULD WIN?!
Like, answer my question-
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I recently read a few chapters of Boruto and thought that maybe Chara represents... the player's shell/vessel?
In Japanese, 殻 (pronounced as "kara", and if you agree that Chara's name is an abbreviation of "character", it sounds really close) means an empty shell. Judging by the ending of chapter 1 of Deltarune, where Kris throws their soul out and their body started acting violently on their own, the fact that the appearance of Kris (the outside, the shell) resembles Chara, and at the beginning of the game, you were asked to name the vessel and the creator, I think maybe it can be assumed that "Chara" is a vessel that the player created with the purpose to participate in/interfere with the world of Undertale/Deltarune, that gained control over itself.
Ps. These are just my random ideas. I dunno if someone else has already noticed this before me and posted it. If so lemme know and I'll delete this
The Underground was like wonderland?
Like, Frisk being Alice and they start to befriend different people?
BUT, there's a twist. Everything is candylike (yes it's different from Candytale-)
And Chara destroys everyone- ;w;
So ya know how each SOUL has a particular hobby/personality associated with it? Purple (Perseverance) was very scholarly and liked reading, Yellow (Justice) was driven by....well, Justice, and was a sharpshooter, for example? Well, Green (Kindness) loved cooking. He know this because their items were a stained apron, and a frying pan, and because the Green phase in Omega Flowey’s fight had him using frying pans to flip burning oil onto us, and when you pass the phase, he throws donuts to heal you. Their items are found in Hotland. Guess who else lives in Hotland and loves cooking? Muffet! And what’s different about Muffet than other spiders? She is huge and walks upright like a human! Seems a little coincidental, does it not? Well, guess who ELSE lives in Hotland and had access to the SOULs? Alphys! And what did she do with said SOULs? She extracted their essence in a misguided attempt to resurrect dying monsters-and we all know where that went. But what did she do with whatever was left of that SOUL essence afterward? She must have disposed of it somehow. What if during that process, a small spider/spider egg accidentally got a drop of the Human SOUL Essence on it? And what if that spider began to exhibit some human-like traits? Just some food for thought. Although Muffet never really showcases any abnormal amount of Determination, so...
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